| Author | Message | ||
| Dan (Bobafett)
Member Username: Bobafett Post Number: 686 Registered: 9-2002 |
Now that's quite a way to make an impression!  Dios mio! --Dan | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Intermediate Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 1853 Registered: 8-2002 |
"Curious - has the car been changed back from the modifications made?" Oh yeah:  | ||
| Dan (Bobafett)
Member Username: Bobafett Post Number: 685 Registered: 9-2002 |
Wayne, Much thanks. 'All you'd need is $30,000' ... I'm still crying. Where was I in 70? Oh yeah, 11 years til my birth. Hmm. Curious - has the car been changed back from the modifications made? --Dan | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Intermediate Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 1851 Registered: 8-2002 |
Jim, Dan, Faisal, John, you've all got mail. Edward, I need your email address. | ||
| Dan (Bobafett)
Member Username: Bobafett Post Number: 683 Registered: 9-2002 |
Wayne, One more! ;) [email protected] --Dan | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Intermediate Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 1848 Registered: 8-2002 |
As soon as I finish repairing my clothes dryer, I'll hook up the scanner (to my computer, not the dryer!) and get a copy out to all of you. Ed, your email address? | ||
| Edward (Edward_96gts)
New member Username: Edward_96gts Post Number: 49 Registered: 8-2002 |
Wayne, Can you add me to the email list? Thanks, Ed | ||
| Faisal Khan (Tvrfreak)
Junior Member Username: Tvrfreak Post Number: 222 Registered: 3-2003 |
Wayne, would you mind posting the picture here? I would like to see it too--if you don't want to post it, my email is [email protected] Rgds, F | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Intermediate Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 1082 Registered: 10-2001 |
I cant wait for that "one fine day" !! | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Intermediate Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 1843 Registered: 8-2002 |
No problem. It'll be later on, though. | ||
| john w. houghtaling, II (Johnhoughtaling)
Junior Member Username: Johnhoughtaling Post Number: 151 Registered: 11-2002 |
Wayne: Can you e-mail it to me as well: [email protected]. thanks | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Intermediate Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 1841 Registered: 8-2002 |
Jim, sure do. I can email it to you later today. | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 1593 Registered: 10-2002 |
Wayne By chance would you have a copy of that article? Best Jim BTW the Leapold spyder was at Greenwich and was very beautiful | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Intermediate Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 1840 Registered: 8-2002 |
"Wayne, you of all people! That is a P3, Webbers." Duh. My apologies. By the way, there is a great article in the November 1970 issue of Motor Trend describing all of the modifications that were made to 0850 in order to make it streetable. There's also a priceless photo of the car sitting in traffic on Sunset Blvd! | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 1591 Registered: 10-2002 |
Dusting/sanding coat. After riviting and sanding color is added to bring up full red. Etching gold coat is showing through now dulling/orangeing color now.  | ||
| Patrick Denonville (Arizonaguy)
Junior Member Username: Arizonaguy Post Number: 206 Registered: 4-2003 |
James, you mean to tell me that the heart of your P4 is here in Arizona? I could never imagine such a piece of mechanical glory ever being in this state! Simply fabulous! Very nice cars, your attention for detail is spectacular! | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 1590 Registered: 10-2002 |
Wayne You of all people! That is a P3, Webbers. This is a P4 Mechanical FI. Totally different animal. When they raced this car they had to use one set (temp) of plugs to start it and warm it up and a different set (temp) to race it. They got it good and hot and pushed it to the starting line. They had about a 10 minute window to refire it on race settings. (Which when hot could be done from the cockpit) If it cooled they had to begin the procedure again. Alberto and Wallace made a few changes in the interest of safety and praticality. They've hidden an electronic ignition system inside the original distributors, and are using a safer Bosch high pressure FI pump with a safety line to a drain so if the seals go it doesn't dump fuel at 120PSI onto the hot exhaust pipes. The electronic ignition is very trick as it has to fire 24 plugs. We've been very careful to keep all of the original pieces so it could be put back. Assuming I get invited to a concours I trust as Gentlemen you and Gerald will only deduct points for these modifications if you are able to notice them your selves. Best Jim Pete That's the black goo we're going to use. Thousands is correct! | ||
| PSk (Psk)
Member Username: Psk Post Number: 491 Registered: 11-2002 |
Very interesting. Thanks Jim for posting. I was thinking about your comment refering to the insides of the alloy panels being black, and I do remember reading something, somewhere about Ferrari finishing the insides of the panels in some sort of black goo (yeah, yeah very technical term ). This probably was to stop the panel drumming and to hide some of the hammer marks? Is this what you were meaning? Pete ps: I bet the supplier who you are buying the rivots from is one happy chappy!. You must need many thousands for that car. I went through many boxes on my last space frame club race car ... and I had a fibre glass body. | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Intermediate Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 1833 Registered: 8-2002 |
"We're trying to work out a system so that I can start it from the cockpit. As this engine has mechanical FI this isn't as easy as you might think." Jim, I'm sure you're aware that Dean Martin's son Dino had 0850 converted for use here on the streets of Los Angeles. Certainly he was able to start her up from the cockpit, no? | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 1588 Registered: 10-2002 |
Wm/Taek Bob and Alberto are finishing up the engine in Scottsdale. John is riviting and fitting the panels in Indy and Greg is painting in Ill. The motor will be shipped back to WWOC as will the fitted and painted body. Sal will put it all together at WWOC. | ||
| Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Member Username: Stickanddice Post Number: 958 Registered: 11-2002 |
WHart, Sorry to butt in... In my limited experience Bob Wallace is still taking on projects. When I spoke to him he was talking about having the engine shipped to him. He would do the work and crate the engine back. Normally that's how he handles it. Don't know how Jim's doing that part. He might have a special arrangement with him. Cheers | ||
| wm hart (Whart)
Intermediate Member Username: Whart Post Number: 1223 Registered: 12-2001 |
So Jim, where is the paint and assembly taking place? I thought bob wallace was somewhere in arizona, semi-retired, etc. | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 1587 Registered: 10-2002 |
Arlie What we're leaning towards is a micro shock absorber adjustment motor that will manuliplate the enrichment cam and be able to be returned to the run position once engine is warmed up. We're doing it in a way that could be easily put back to original. (For those who have two men, a boy, and a dog always following along) Best | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 1586 Registered: 10-2002 |
Eric The big honking American 427 is no problem. Switch on. Pump the gas pedal. Push the starter. Those Two huge Holly four barrels are a horse of a different color... | ||
| Horsefly (Arlie)
Intermediate Member Username: Arlie Post Number: 1250 Registered: 5-2002 |
How about a small astable multivibrator circuit feeding some square wave pulses to a standard electromechanical fuel injector mounted in the horn inlet for start up enrichment? Easily turned on or off with a cockpit mounted switch. | ||
| Erik (Teenferrarifan)
Junior Member Username: Teenferrarifan Post Number: 178 Registered: 2-2003 |
That is awesome to hear about the street legal bit of it. I can't wait to see pictures of the P4 on a country road. That will be sweet. Also that seems like some task to figure out a way to start it from the cockpit. I take it your MK-IV had the same problem? Thanks for the info. Erik | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 1585 Registered: 10-2002 |
Eric As it's a 67 it will be street legal. We're trying to work out a system so that I can start it from the cockpit. As this engine has mechanical FI this isn't as easy as you might think. As it now stands you have to raise the tail,turn on the low pressure pump, turn on the high pressure pump, richen the mixture, squirt fuel down the trumpets, and turn over. Having someone standing by with a fire extinguisher is a good idea as well. Bob Wallace and Alberto Pedretti are working on that detail now. When will it be done? One fine day... Des The felt keeps the cell from chaffing against the chassis and the rivets. Best Jim | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Advanced Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 4511 Registered: 8-2002 |
i'll assume the rivets help hold the car together, right...? ...but what does the felt do, exactly...? i mean, how does some felt help protect a fuel cell...? | ||
| Erik (Teenferrarifan)
Junior Member Username: Teenferrarifan Post Number: 177 Registered: 2-2003 |
Awesome Mr. G your close attention to detail is great. Using the period felt instead of todays tapes it really shows and when the car is done will be perfect. When is it set to be done? You can make this car street legal correct? Since it was made before 68(I don't know if this is true though). Erik | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 1583 Registered: 10-2002 |
First rivets going in. Note period correct felt as opposed to racer tape being used to protect fuel cells.      |