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Dom Vitarella (Dom)
Junior Member
Username: Dom

Post Number: 219
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 3:52 pm:   

Taek,

The GT4 is doing great. We just changed the brake pads this weekend to Porterfield R4-S (See thread in tech section). I love that car. Anytime your in S. Cal, give me a call, and we can go for a drive.
Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Member
Username: Stickanddice

Post Number: 992
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 3:48 pm:   

Thanks for the offer guys.

I'll probably check out Crystal Guard before I bother with anything else. As with everything automotive I do a ton of research before I commit to anything. I'm a marketer's wet dream. I tend to find something and cling on to it for dear life. Be it waxes/polishes, tires, or wiper blades. As some of you who have seen me post, I tend to blabber my mouth about things I have been "sold" on. Reason is, if I use something it's usually for a reason, and until another product comes up to "dethrone" the current product, I go on spreading the gospel. :-)

Dan,

Again, I appreciate the offer, but I'll pass for now. It's very generous of you, but I really want to read up on it first. It has only been recently that I've wondered about this stuff. A month or so ago I put up a post asking about Tako's Crystal Guard. I'll definitely read up on the info in your site as well as Tako's.

Dom,

Thanks to you also, for the offer. I've actually seen Zaino'd cars. My brother in law uses it on his 3 series BMW. Have to admit that it looks great. It's the only real world application that I've seen. I used to use Zymol simply because that's what my detailer used. I decided against taking it there again, after I caught one of their employees trying to steal the Lamborghini badge out of my Murcielago.

More importantly...How's that 308 treating you? You enjoying it? You know, I was hairs away from purchasing that car. :-) Very nice machine, and I can say that first hand having driven it and having watched it being serviced in very capable hands!

Cheers
Dom Vitarella (Dom)
Junior Member
Username: Dom

Post Number: 218
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 3:30 pm:   

Dan, yes it is true, waxes will not last very long (2-3 months at best), hence the synthetics.

However, I like to take car of my car, so waxing every month (or more frequently) is not a problem.

It's one thing to say your product is good. But there is no need to scare people into thinking that wax will ruin their cars. Just doesn't give you much credibility.

Your offer to Taek of a free sample is a good start. But, really, you have come off as a spammer. Also, there are inaccuracies in it. Some waxes have mild polishes (cleaner waxes), but many don't. Even the cleaner waxes are safe for your paint. Like I said earlier, I've never seen wax ruin a paint (even the cleaner waxes with polishes).

Your product will have a lot more credibility if you are accurate in your claims.

Why aren't the people on Autopia raving about this product?? Autopia is one of the most frequented detailing sites on the net. Lots of knowledge and information. Probably lots of people there eager to try it.

Dom
Dan (Glucola)
New member
Username: Glucola

Post Number: 3
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 3:11 pm:   

Taek,

Send me your address and I will ship you one full bottle to you for you to try if you like. If you don't like it then throw it away or whatever you like. No charge at all. If you like it then the only thing I ask is that you tell your friends about it.

Dan (Glucola)
New member
Username: Glucola

Post Number: 2
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 3:08 pm:   

Dom,

That is what I use is word of mouth. I do a demo on one person's car they buy the product and then they tell their friends about it. That's how we get most of our business. All I was trying to do was introduce a better car care product and your right just one application will not make everything go away. We have done demos on people's cars and the demo spot has lasted from months up to a couple of years before going totally away.

Do you know the reason that any product of wax tells you not to apply in direct sunlight? The reason is because waxes contains 2 important things to make them look good. 1. Alcohol and 2 petroluem distallates. If you put it on in direct sunlight the alcohol evaporates and you are just rubbing the distallates straight into your paint.

Another question how long does that shine last for? Ours last months a time. I've used it on my wives' car and have touched it since. That was 8 months ago and it still looks like I put it on yesterday. You can only read up 18" into the paint with waxes. Ours you can read up to 10 feet and read ever 1/16th inch into the paint.

Dom Vitarella (Dom)
Junior Member
Username: Dom

Post Number: 216
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 3:06 pm:   

Taek,

If you'd like to learn more about paint care, I'd suggest autopia.org. I can give you a few tips too, if you'd like.

Zaino is a good product, and I use it on my Alfa. It is somewhat of a pain, in my opinion, becuase you have to use their system (i.e., the zaino wash, quick detailer, etc.). But, providing you have good prep, the results are great.

If you'd like to experiment, I can pour out some of my zaino in a new bottle and send it to you to try.

I've never used the Crystal guard (Tako's miracle juice) stuff and so can't comment.

If you have any questions, just shoot me an e-mail.

Dom
Dom Vitarella (Dom)
Junior Member
Username: Dom

Post Number: 215
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 2:57 pm:   

Oh Pleeeeeease...

"...bad effect of wax on your paint". Right. So the stuff that's been put on my car for the last 30 years has just ruined my paint.

Candle wax is very very different from car wax.

And, it's not just one review on autopia. Do a search.

Guys, there is no panacea. A good finish requires lots of hard work to remove the swirls and imperfections. A layer of wax on top (after a polish) serves to protect the paint from the elements. Yes, there are proven synthetics that do last longer than wax (Klasse, Zaino, just to name 2), but they have their downsides as well. And, preparation is just as important with a synthetic as with a regular wax.

If your product is so wonderful, why not give out a couple of free samples. I'm sure word of mouth about it would get around pretty quickly.

My guess is that you are just another one of those dealers trying to sell your overpriced stuff to the unknowing.

Dom
Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Member
Username: Stickanddice

Post Number: 990
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 2:52 pm:   

Kind of Off Topic here, but did you guys notice the Post Count?

Dan started with 1, progressively made it to 3, but now his latest post has him at 1 again. Welcome to the Twilight Zone.

Dan,

I for one am interested in your product. I've been looking for something for my cars and have narrowed it down pretty much to Zaino and Tako's miracle juice. I could definitely use an education on car care.

Cheers
Pat Pasqualini (Enzo)
Member
Username: Enzo

Post Number: 575
Registered: 2-2002
Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 2:43 pm:   

ROB!!!
Dan (Glucola)
New member
Username: Glucola

Post Number: 1
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 2:42 pm:   

How can you go off of what one single person could account for. I can almost bet you that his car was in pretty bad shape. If he had alot of marks that were deep in the paint of course nothing out there could repair that other than a new paint job. I have had people come to me with paint that had peeled away to bare metal and asked if we could do anything about it. I am not trying to defend my partner in anyway but I have seen alot of people do that.

Yes we have put it on some cars with some really faded paint and it didn't bring it back to that show room shine because it was in need of a new paint job but we still did the demonstration to show what it could do to the still salvagable sections of paint that he had.

I have been doing this for almost a year now and alot of people keep coming back to buy more of the product. That is one of the reasons that we like to go over a live demo on their actual vehicle so that we can see it's current state.

We educate you on the bad effects that waxes have on your paint and also the bad effects that teflon will do to the paint. If you need a paint job we will make the recommendation to do so. It's always up to you to make that decision. Even after doing the demo with you we do not pressure you to buy the product. If you don't like the results of it there is no questions asked. At least from me.

The other day I did a demo on one guys truck and he bought a case of the product from us. (25 bottles to a case) and was going to give it to his guys at the company and keep one for himself.
Craig A (Milo)
Member
Username: Milo

Post Number: 262
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 2:20 pm:   

Dom,

Autopia people didn't give it very good ratings.
Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Member
Username: Stickanddice

Post Number: 983
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 2:10 pm:   

Dan,

Is that Tako's "miracle juice"? I've heard great stuff about it, consequently that's what I've dubbed the product.

Did you apply it to your car? I have some cars that could use that. The rigors of daily driving take their toll. If I meet up with you I'll be sure to bring the Corvette so you can see what I'm talking about. :-) Don't know if you saw my Porsche C4 in one of the Bay Area FChat meets either. That sucker was in sad shape at the time. Dirt everywhere. I hate having to do a serious detail once a week too.

Cheers
Dan (Bobafett)
Member
Username: Bobafett

Post Number: 680
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 2:00 pm:   

Best stuff I've seen is Crystal Guard...nothing holds a candle to it

--Dan
Dom Vitarella (Dom)
Junior Member
Username: Dom

Post Number: 214
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 1:55 pm:   

Doh- Double Post
Dom Vitarella (Dom)
Junior Member
Username: Dom

Post Number: 213
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 1:54 pm:   

Check out:

http://www.autopia.org/review/censura.php?cmd=details&itemid=251&username=BradNC

(You may have to register, but worthwhile site if you are into keeping your car nice).

Dom
Craig A (Milo)
Member
Username: Milo

Post Number: 261
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 1:20 pm:   

Rob Lay or rob328gts on this site is the board administrator.

Go to the members page. He is currently the first one listed.
Dan (Glucola)
New member
Username: Glucola

Post Number: 3
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 1:12 pm:   

Robin,

Thanks for taking the time out to explain that. As you can tell that I am new to this website.

How can I go about finding this person that I might need to talk to about this business. I am not here to upset anyone just trying to help promote my business.

This is one of the best products out there that actually does no damage to the paint unlike everything else that is out there. I know that the owners of such cars as Ferraris would like to keep their paint in the best possible condition and not destroy it.

Thanks for your help
Robin Overcash (Robin)
Junior Member
Username: Robin

Post Number: 109
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 1:00 pm:   

Dan,

I don't think the issue is whether or not your product works... it's whether or not you checked with Rob first and set yourself up as a paying sponsor in order to advertise here........

-R
Rikky Alessi (Ralessi)
Junior Member
Username: Ralessi

Post Number: 154
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 12:57 pm:   

Where's Dave on this one?
Dan Galusha (Glucola)
New member
Username: Glucola

Post Number: 2
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 12:55 pm:   

If you don't believe me then try it then. It's not spam it's an actual business. You jump to conclusions to fast. Bet you didn't even look at the website have you?

I can promise you that it's 1,000% better then the crap that you put on your cars now that is damaging your paint. Oh, well your loss I guess.
Marq J Ruben (Qferrari)
Member
Username: Qferrari

Post Number: 393
Registered: 2-2002
Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 12:05 pm:   

Upload SPAM!!!!! Lose it!!!
Dom Vitarella (Dom)
Junior Member
Username: Dom

Post Number: 212
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 11:58 am:   

Cough, Cough, BullSh*t, Cough, SPAM, Cough, Cough...
Dan Galusha (Glucola)
New member
Username: Glucola

Post Number: 1
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 11:46 am:   

Do you own a car or truck with one, some or all of the following: faded trim, faded rubber, faded headlamps, swirl marks, light scratches, faded paint, minor paint transfers? Do you want to possibly get that show car finish back? Then go to my website at www.acrylicwerks.com for more information.

If you are asking yourself why is there a picture of a Bugatti 16 EB is because this car is owned by volkswagon which is out of Germany. This one example is owned by one of our customers. He uses our product on his car.

If you have any questions please contact me at [email protected] and I will help you to the best of my ability.

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