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Paul Loussia (Bumboola)
Junior Member
Username: Bumboola

Post Number: 91
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 12:03 am:   

I seriously doubt that the sunroof affects the structural integrity of the car at all (if the 360 chassis was designed for a Spider, it can handle a hole in the roof), affects resale at all, or leaks.

I would order it on a Modena. It's sweet!
arthur chambers (Art355)
Intermediate Member
Username: Art355

Post Number: 1899
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2003 - 11:37 pm:   

Chris:

Lifts out, goes behind the seat. If you order the sunroof, you shouldn't order the premium sound, because you can't put the sunroof behind the seat, because of the sound system.

Art
Modified348ts (Modman)
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Username: Modman

Post Number: 643
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2003 - 11:33 pm:   

I could imagine if the 360 came with a targa option it would kinda like look like a targa Supra and would not look Ferrarish. I like the idea of what Porsche did with their new targa with the glass top sliding keeping a smooth look instead of putting an out of shape sunroof that don't look good at all and with such a small opening, why bother, a glass top would have been better or polycarbonate.
Vincent (Vincent348)
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Username: Vincent348

Post Number: 615
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2003 - 11:25 pm:   

I think a 360 targa would have been welcomed. the 360 seemed to have skipped that step. Coupe, Spider...that's it.

V.
Chris Coffing (Valence)
Junior Member
Username: Valence

Post Number: 69
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2003 - 11:23 pm:   

What do you do with the sunroof? How does it come off/out?
arthur chambers (Art355)
Intermediate Member
Username: Art355

Post Number: 1895
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2003 - 11:20 pm:   

My 360 is coming with the sunroof. It doesn't take any head room. Since so few have ordered it, I would think that it would be a plus. More importantly, it is the 21st century replacement for the TS models.

As to those that don't want one, enjoy. I like the noise, I like the Sun.

Art
Vincent (Vincent348)
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Username: Vincent348

Post Number: 614
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2003 - 11:14 pm:   

Does anyone know if there is any resonation at certain speeds with the sunroof open?
V.Z. (Ama328)
Junior Member
Username: Ama328

Post Number: 150
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2003 - 11:10 pm:   

you know, if you buy it with the idea of keeping it for the 'long term'(that is, till about 2 days after you're dead), then you don't have to worry about resale, you only have to think about what YOU'd most like :-) ...in which case, who cares what other folks think?
Dave Penhale (Dapper)
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Username: Dapper

Post Number: 717
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2003 - 3:18 am:   

Each to his own, if you need it or like it go for it, I wouldn't be lining up to buy one though, real nasty looking design IMO.
Modified348ts (Modman)
Member
Username: Modman

Post Number: 640
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 3:33 pm:   

I have never seen this option before but what a sight to remember, I'll hold what I have to say about it as I don't need to mention it but if you like it don't hold back due to what I think of it. I like the color of the car...
"The Dave" (Sparetireless)
Junior Member
Username: Sparetireless

Post Number: 109
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 3:27 pm:   

I did get note from someone telling me it was uncommon but not rare. You gotta love Ferrari folks.
"The Dave" (Sparetireless)
Junior Member
Username: Sparetireless

Post Number: 108
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 3:25 pm:   

Here is a nice an example, I am thinking of going for it, it seems unpopular but for some reason I like the unattractiveness of it and it lets the sun in. Upload
Modified348ts (Modman)
Member
Username: Modman

Post Number: 638
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 3:19 pm:   

I agree on what makes you happy but what I was saying is that if you plan on reselling it do you thing there would be many offers on it? especially if you're spending well over 100K? not for me. So if a Ferrari came with an optional shopping cart wing and it was bolted to the rear of the car would you jump on it now or in the future since it's a rare option? How's that for advice? Just take a vote first before saying I'm giving bad advice. Were not talking of a 20K car that you can piss away but realize the majority would not go for the sunroof, why do you think there are not many of these made? to be rare? I think not, ask the manufacturer themselves..


Faisal Khan (Tvrfreak)
Junior Member
Username: Tvrfreak

Post Number: 230
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 2:47 pm:   

Some seriously bad advice from Modman. You're paying for the car. You want to enjoy it, right? The only vote that should count is your own.

As for them holding value or not, 3 or 30 years from now...it's a Ferrari designed option and it's rare.

It's OEM and probably has negligible (if not zero) impact on rigidity and it gives you the option of open-top motoring for far less than the price of a spider. It's easy. Get the unique sunroof. And as James G. said, if you want it pink with polka dots, go for it. Enjoy.
L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Intermediate Member
Username: Lwausbrooks

Post Number: 1912
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 2:47 pm:   

Modman, my "30 years from now" comment was a joke. As Jim said, make yourself happy.
Modified348ts (Modman)
Member
Username: Modman

Post Number: 635
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 2:39 pm:   

I didn't know the factory offered a sunroof, I'd still pass up on it regardless of what the car value would be, OK I did go a little to far as saying minus well be a kit car but I just can't see a sunroof on an exotic car, that just don't blend well in my books. I can see a Porsche with it but a Ferrari? just like I said it should be either a conv. or targa like the way they've been making it. 30 years from now I could care less of the value as I wouldn't own a car for that long esp. modern machinery don't hold as much value to keep as a garage queen anyway. By the time that 30th year comes you'll probably be near croaking stage to even care of car value. It's your option if you want the sunroof car but I wouldn't think of investing on it if you did buy it, just take a vote and see how many would stay away from it to those who would buy it, very easy.







Tom RM (Tgitom)
Junior Member
Username: Tgitom

Post Number: 133
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 11:31 am:   

I agree with James G.....
L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Intermediate Member
Username: Lwausbrooks

Post Number: 1906
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 9:58 am:   

Jim, agreed.

Modman, he's talking about the factory option sunroof (approx $3K), not something added after the fact.

Dave, being as rare as they are, the factory sunroof cars will be worth more 30 years from now.
James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member
Username: Napolis

Post Number: 1654
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 9:48 am:   

I've never understood worrying about resale on a non essential purchase such as a Ferrari. Life is short. Make yourself happy. Why care about what anyone else thinks? Pink will make you happy? Paint it pink. Enjoy.
Ken Ghiringhelli (Kenny94945)
Junior Member
Username: Kenny94945

Post Number: 65
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 9:42 am:   

Wow...it is OK I am just surprised at the passion for Belinettas.

Perhaps the A Pillar and B Pillar (I am always confused on coupes...is that a B or C) tie the upper chassis together enough?

So, is there a proven degradation of chassis firmness with the sunroof?

Personally, I have become very fond of "targa" tops. The 360 does not offer that option. The Spyder vs. the coupe still seem to have a $50K price difference which, to me, makes a sun roof attractive...for the view and wind in the air feeling.

Lastly, $25K off resale of a 360 with a sunroof would send this poor boy to said sunroof....if I fit!

p.s. HAPPY FATHER'S DAY wishes to all our Ferrari Chat members
Henryk (Henryk)
Member
Username: Henryk

Post Number: 809
Registered: 8-2001
Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 7:57 am:   

If they will be a negative at re-sale, they, obviously must be at a BIG negative to buy in the first place. It would have to sell for at least $25K below the value of a coupe, to begin with.IMO
KCCK (Kenneth)
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Username: Kenneth

Post Number: 379
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 3:19 am:   

I would not touch a car like this, even at a substantial discount.

It will feel like an opened can. And I will always be left wondering if it compromises the structural integrity of the entire car, and the delicate balance of the chasis.
Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Intermediate Member
Username: Stickanddice

Post Number: 1137
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 1:23 am:   

A kit car?

Aren't we going a little far?

I don't think they look too bad at all.

Cheers
Modified348ts (Modman)
Member
Username: Modman

Post Number: 634
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 12:52 am:   

Sunroof on a 360, why would any one accept the hidiosity on a coupe not made for one? I would not even think of buying one with a hole cut on the roof, the person should've opted for a conv. so the trade in ended up a dropped value, think about it, would you buy a 360 with a sunroof? It minus well be a kit car.

Brian Kennedy (Kennedy)
Member
Username: Kennedy

Post Number: 342
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2003 - 7:47 pm:   

I would wager they are a negative at resale time because of the headroom they eat up vs. the difficulty of actually using them. And then there is the fear (even if it has no basis) of them leaking... it is an Italian car, afterall. :-)
"The Dave" (Sparetireless)
Junior Member
Username: Sparetireless

Post Number: 107
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2003 - 7:09 pm:   

I am looking for a used 360 coupe and have found a few with Sunroofs. They are a very bizzare shape and are not electric. The local dealer says they are almost a negative at resale time, what is the real deal?
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