| Author | Message | ||
| John B (John_b)
New member Username: John_b Post Number: 19 Registered: 5-2003 |
I personally love the F1 transmission. Once you get used to it it's a piece of cake. I actually find myself occasionally pulling back on my blinkers and wipers on my M5 now. Launching slowly or quickly is easy with the F1. It is the intermediate launch that can be a little jerky. | ||
| "The Dave" (Sparetireless)
Junior Member Username: Sparetireless Post Number: 112 Registered: 1-2003 |
Although the F1 works pretty good and is believed to be "within specs", it seems to have a lot of clutch smell if you do a smooth take off and if you do a quick one, the wife ends up wanting to take the other car because it does squeel the tires without asking permission first. Its really seems like a racing oriented way to go. Its not for everyone and I would opt for a stick for sure next time. I am unhappy with the F1 and would not recommend it for the next car, but to be honest, its on the level of being unhappy with a cold Becks vs. a cold Heinekin Beer. I am sure some people think its just great. | ||
| Jack Fried (Jack360)
New member Username: Jack360 Post Number: 40 Registered: 6-2001 |
Dave: Your tranny "problem" on take off could be something as simple as a PIS (point of initial slippage) adjustment. On the other hand, a bad clutch on an F1 tranny car can also exhibit that "grabby/jerky" take off/launch symptom. | ||
| Ben Cannon (Artherd)
Member Username: Artherd Post Number: 454 Registered: 6-2002 |
The F1 definately wants you to 'commit' (it will do ugly things if you back off the gas, lurching, chirping, spilling your soda, etc.) ACR off; car in 1st, tromp the pedal. Repeat to find the exact best point to tromp to (probally not all the way, unless you're on slicks!) Haven't tried this in a 360, alternatively you might be faster by reving the car to 2-3k (2100 in the Enzo article DES mentioned, but that's a 6litre V12!) and poping into 1st whilst mashing the gas. Instant clutch dump. Don't blame me if you break things  Best! Ben. | ||
| Paul Bianco (Paulie_b)
Member Username: Paulie_b Post Number: 337 Registered: 1-2003 |
Dave, can't your problem be corrected? | ||
| "The Dave" (Sparetireless)
Junior Member Username: Sparetireless Post Number: 110 Registered: 1-2003 |
Once you are rolling the F1 shifts like no other car, getting it rolling is a different story. Mine jumps and grabs violently and chirps the tires. Its a great car even with these problems however. I am now looking for a stick because of these issues. | ||
| acw (Acw)
Junior Member Username: Acw Post Number: 150 Registered: 2-2002 |
Clax, whatever you do, commit to some gas amount and let the F1 system do the rest. The F1 transmission is very confused if you keep changing the throttle level during the launch ACW | ||
| Dr. Anthony Lizano (Docapl)
New member Username: Docapl Post Number: 41 Registered: 4-2002 |
Well Paul I would not recommend it on a routine basis, but I had this wierd thing happen where I was stopped at a light and pulled the right paddle to drive off. First gear didn't engage for some odd reason. I gave it some gas and pulled the lever again and the result appeared very similar to a launch control tire smoking catapult shot. | ||
| Paul Loussia (Bumboola)
Junior Member Username: Bumboola Post Number: 92 Registered: 3-2003 |
That sounds dangerous Doc! I was told that the LC feature will be functional on U.S. spec Stradales. | ||
| Dr. Anthony Lizano (Docapl)
New member Username: Docapl Post Number: 40 Registered: 4-2002 |
How would LC differ from putting a 360 in sport mode, Neutral, Rev to xxxx RPM, pull the right paddle, floor it after the tire hook up ? It seems from what I have read the only difference is the ability to initiate the launch by releasing the brake. | ||
| jake diamond (Rampante)
Junior Member Username: Rampante Post Number: 117 Registered: 4-2002 |
Jeff - There's no "launch control" system built into the current generation F-1 , that's used in the standard versions of the 360. Your dealer probably meant to keep you away from doing full throttle standing start burn-outs. The Stradale is the first of the "street" 360's to employ the "launch control" entity. | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Advanced Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 4631 Registered: 8-2002 |
The article on the Enzo in the new Road & Track says that to launch the Enzo from a stand-still, turn the ASR off, put your foot on the brake, engage 1st, then slowly build the revs to (i think they said) 5k rpms... Don't know if the same would apply to the 360, but it might... | ||
| Willis Huang (Willis360)
Intermediate Member Username: Willis360 Post Number: 1330 Registered: 8-2001 |
Launch control might not be available for the U.S. spec 360 Stradale. | ||
| noel smith (Noel)
Member Username: Noel Post Number: 346 Registered: 2-2003 |
everytime i hit the gas a little hard i feel like i'm trashing my clutch, once the clutch is engaged it's fine but i would also like some advise on how best to do a cold start. | ||
| J.D. Smythe (Jeff)
Junior Member Username: Jeff Post Number: 196 Registered: 2-2001 |
Clax I too have a 2002 F1. My dealer advised me NOT to try launch control. It will burn out the clutch. With the Stradale, launch control has been built into the F1 system. | ||
| Clax (Clax)
Junior Member Username: Clax Post Number: 61 Registered: 10-2002 |
Both instances were with ASR "on". I should try it with it off. P8ge, launching with F1 is pretty simple. Put foot on brake, upshift to 1st gear with righthand paddle, then stomp on the accelerator. Where the complexity comes in is the transmission control module that controls the clutch. | ||
| p8ge (P8ge)
New member Username: P8ge Post Number: 15 Registered: 1-2003 |
Can you explain how you lauch the car with the F1 trans. ? | ||
| Lou B (Toby91)
Junior Member Username: Toby91 Post Number: 203 Registered: 4-2001 |
ACR on or off? The second event sounds like ACR on and working. Never heard of a clutch being "modulated" above 2000 rpm. I switch off ACR and tromp the gas enough to get a good chirp and then floor it after hookup. | ||
| Clax (Clax)
Junior Member Username: Clax Post Number: 60 Registered: 10-2002 |
With my '02 360 F1 Spider, I have launched the car aggressively from a standstill on 2 occasions. The first time, it launched flawlessly, with the clutch releasing quickly and putting power the road immediately. The second time I did this, it modulated the clutch until about 5,000 rpm, which is obviously not a good situation. Any suggestions on how to keep the F1 clutch from modulating on an aggressive launch? Should I keep my foot on the brake and then immediately hit the gas pedal? |