| Author | Message | ||
| Matt Karson (Squidracing)
Member Username: Squidracing Post Number: 511 Registered: 3-2001 |
Martin....I'm not too sure of the exact differences between the NASCAR and Trans Am chassis, but from the little I know, it's like black and white. For left left left reasons, NASCAR starts with a different platform and converts it to road course use. The Trans Am chassis has been refined for a long time, specifically for road course use. As far as cost, the pictured car would go for around $200,000. I'm not going to buy a new chassis. I'm going to do MEGA research, and buy a modern roller Trans Am chassis. I'll then buy the body and install it on the running chassis. And I agree...the Jag is the nicest looking of them all. Will...."Matt, I don't know you all that well, but I find myself having to strain to believe this. Heck, you sound like you're having a hard time trying to convince yourself. Maybe if you turn the rev limiter up just a little ...." I guess you know me better than you think! Jim....good suggestion. It will be either British Racing Green, or the silver like in the picture. My initial thought is that the silver shows the curves of the car better. Either way....Squidracing will be on it. Also, I really like the 'leaping cat' logo on the car. | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 4846 Registered: 5-2001 |
Matt, giving the center of gravity of the NASCAR compared to the TransAm, surely there has to be a difference in handling. Dave, I can not tell you how much they sell the non-sponsor chassis for, since I really do not care much for NASCARS but the ones my friend offers collectors are going for around $50K Chassis, plus an engine anywhere from $ 11K up. You can usually get great support from the former teams. I know he is in contact with them all the time. He has about 8 at the moment. Matt, just to get an idea, how much are the TransAms selling? and BTW the Jag is the best looking one of them all. | ||
| Matt Karson (Squidracing)
Member Username: Squidracing Post Number: 510 Registered: 3-2001 |
I've heard that the road course NASCAR cars handle like tanks when compared to the Trans Am cars. | ||
| will h (Willh)
Junior Member Username: Willh Post Number: 109 Registered: 3-2003 |
"Soooo, I will probably limit the output of the motor so I will be able to get everything out of the limited motor I use." Matt, I don't know you all that well, but I find myself having to strain to believe this. Heck, you sound like you're having a hard time trying to convince yourself. Maybe if you turn the rev limiter up just a little .... I also thought of suggesting a Winston Cup car, but I've heard - and I don't know how reliable this is - that the Trans Am cars are a lot more nimble and therefore more satisfying on road courses. | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 1685 Registered: 10-2002 |
Matt Way cool. May I humbly suggest British Racing Green with SquidRacing Logo? Best | ||
| Matt Karson (Squidracing)
Member Username: Squidracing Post Number: 509 Registered: 3-2001 |
Jon...great to hear that you will be at the Glen event. To put you at ease...I don't want to be the fastest fastest fastest guy on the track, as then there won't be anyone for me to play with. Soooo, I will probably limit the output of the motor so I will be able to get everything out of the limited motor I use. Also, durability will not even be an issue like that. I'm thinking I'll build it out to be a 2:00 minute Glen car. Of course......I will probably build out a 550/600 hp motor as well, for when I really want to play. But (excuse the pun) that would only be playing with myself. As far as sourcing parts...could they be more expensive than what we already deal with?? No...no Cingular livery....I like the livery on the car in the picture...just needs 'squidracing' written all over it! Martin...I've considered the NASCAR route, but I'm really hot on the Trans Am. Thanks though. Rob...thanks for the great link! I am becoming a sponge for all the info I can get my hands on. This process will take a lot of time, but I'm looking forward to the end result. Will...thanks a lot for the contact. Like giving a junkie help inserting the needle. | ||
| will h (Willh)
Junior Member Username: Willh Post Number: 107 Registered: 3-2003 |
Matt - I will private messgae or e-mail you contact info for my friend - he'd love to talk Trans Am with you. Jon - Went to the Glen after Summit, but that's it. I still have not been able to get the alignment checked. I'm going to see if I can get to the Labor Day event. Will | ||
| Dave (Maranelloman)
Intermediate Member Username: Maranelloman Post Number: 1965 Registered: 1-2002 |
Martin, typically, what do these road course Winston Cup cars go for? Thanks, Dave | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 5331 Registered: 12-2000 |
Check out www.tainternetleague.com for all the TA information you want and more. I'm a long time user on that board, not much traffic, but most of the drivers and officials visit the site. I've exchanged emails with Paul Gentilozzi, Boris Said, and talked on the phone with local boy Lou Gigliotti. It costs about $1 mil. to run in the TA series for a year. | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 4839 Registered: 5-2001 |
Also consider the good old Road Nascars. I have a few friends here in the Miami area that own NASCARS which are purposely built for road courses not ovals. There are several for sale of those and all in full sponsorship, which is pretty rare. For example the Dale Ernhard Jn #8 from 2002 and the Tony Steward #20 from 2002 (Championship car) as well as various others. My friend usualy drives the Kenny Schrader M&M car from 2001. Those are pretty inexpensive and parts are easy to get. Engines are easy and do not cost a fortune if you blow one. If you want to get hooked up with the guy let me know. You will have to sign a waiver that the car will not be used for promotion without taking the decalls off. This is one of the limitations put on by the sponsoirs of these cars and the reason why you can usually only buy the car without the sponsorship decalls. | ||
| Jon P. Kofod (95f355c)
Member Username: 95f355c Post Number: 712 Registered: 8-2001 |
Wonderful just when I am considering getting one of those NASCAR Trucks like Sam drives with 500 hp to keep up with you.......you pull this thing out of the bag. Pal, you won't have anyone to play with in that thing. We'll all look like pace cars to you. We'll have to have four classes now, white, blue, red, and the Karson Group (anything under 2:00 at the Glen which means you'll have the track to yourself buddy). You could hire some professional racers to drive Benny's 333 or Cox's 333 so you wouldn't be completely bored! Seriously though make sure you talk with Rob S. on this board as he posted some while back about the pitfalls of a Trans Am car. I remember him saying that most of these cars are all built to different specs. He said there is no parts catalogue for stuff you would expect (bumper, doors etc). He indicated that while they all look the same they aren't and parts are frequently custom fabricated. I think you could get a reliable 500 hp out of one of those motors. Your friend with the NASCAR truck who turned a 2:04 has 525 hp accoding to Sam. Are you going to put full Cingular livery on it like Jeff's 355 GT? By the way...been working on the wife for three months now on the Labor day event and it looks like a go. See you there! Regards, Jon P. Kofod 1995 F355 Challenge #23 PS: Will H. have you had a chance to run the 360 C since Summit? | ||
| Vincent (Vincent348)
Member Username: Vincent348 Post Number: 613 Registered: 4-2003 |
Thanks. | ||
| Matt Karson (Squidracing)
Member Username: Squidracing Post Number: 508 Registered: 3-2001 |
Will...I'd love to chat with your friend if it's possible for you to arrange. | ||
| Matt Karson (Squidracing)
Member Username: Squidracing Post Number: 507 Registered: 3-2001 |
Hey Will....I'd still run it at the same venues. That's why I'd put in a detuned motor. Otherwise I'd have to find a whole new bunch of groups to run with...and the new expenses associated with that. In the end, I'll probably have two different motors....one hot and one not. I'd love to rip off some 1:51's - 1:52's at the Glen. Maybe some 0:52's (or whatever they do) at Lime Rock. But in the end....it's no fun being the fastest as then you have nobody to play with. Vincent....they are small block motors...ford/chevy etc. | ||
| will h (Willh)
Junior Member Username: Willh Post Number: 104 Registered: 3-2003 |
Matt, absolutely gorgeous. I have a friend, former Porsche guy, who runs an ex Trans Am Camaro and has never looked back. Where would you run the Jag? | ||
| Vincent (Vincent348)
Member Username: Vincent348 Post Number: 603 Registered: 4-2003 |
What is the "original" motor? Sorry, if I should know this. Vincent. | ||
| Matt Karson (Squidracing)
Member Username: Squidracing Post Number: 506 Registered: 3-2001 |
Yeah...I'd put in a detuned motor. To help me sort out the car, I think I'd put in a crate Ford 460 hp in for the first season. It would be a whole new experience for me. I'm going to try to make it so that the only need I will have for a 'crew' will be for chasis setup. If I put in the 'detuned' 460 hp motor, I think I would get a pretty reliable ride. | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 5325 Registered: 12-2000 |
Awesome car of course! You need a full crew like a 333 would require though. I guess you could get a tone downed engine for track use, but those guys go through engines almsot like NASCAR. $20-50k engines too! | ||
| Matt Karson (Squidracing)
Member Username: Squidracing Post Number: 505 Registered: 3-2001 |
Gentlemen......I'm giving VERRRRY serious consideration to buying a Trans Am car. I might have to sell the 355 Challenge Car, but I think this will be a worthy successor!! Just looking at it makes me high!! Soooooo...??????  |