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"The Don" (The_don)
Senior Member Username: The_don
Post Number: 5410 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 11:02 am: | |
Ken, I have a contact at FNA legal that I used for FerrariChat.com and the Ferraridrivingclub. I can call Him on Monday if you like. Matt |
TomD (Tifosi)
Advanced Member Username: Tifosi
Post Number: 3916 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 11:01 am: | |
I am sure we will have many ideas but Rob ususally has a black ad with white type, simple is best. The Ferrarichat.com community mourns the tragic deaths of our Friends, Amar and Jens. |
Ken Thomas (Future328driver)
Member Username: Future328driver
Post Number: 378 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 10:50 am: | |
Warren, I thought about that as well last night. That is why I think the memorial should be subdued and classy and not gaudy. I dont think we should use last names (just say "Jens and Amar") and keep it to a 1/2 page, color peice. Nothing to extreme maybe just a brief statement of remembrance imposed over the prancing horse logo (I could write to Ferrari corporate about any copyright issues, but I would hope they would not mind) and maybe a statement of goodbye and god speed written in Italian. |
Warren L. (Warren)
Junior Member Username: Warren
Post Number: 240 Registered: 2-2002
| Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 10:44 am: | |
If their families don't mind the publicized tribute, I'm in too. |
Ken Thomas (Future328driver)
Member Username: Future328driver
Post Number: 377 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 10:41 am: | |
Martin, can either you or Rob contact Forza about the page space? (maybe 1/2 page color - a full page seems a bit much) Since you both have contacts there, that is probably better than me calling them out of the blue. Thanks. |
Ken Thomas (Future328driver)
Member Username: Future328driver
Post Number: 376 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 10:39 am: | |
I will try to set up a PayPal account later this evening and then create a new post with all the information. I think this is the best way to go about getting donations. I still need to get a hold of Rob to make sure he agrees with this idea since FerrariChat is his creation and the memorial would appear on behalf of FChat. If we have any graphic artists on the board, please let me know and maybe they can help design something very respectful and classy that we can submit directly to Forza without having to hire a professional ad/design agency. That way, if we get the Forza space for a low cost or free, the money that we collect in the PayPal account can be given to Jens' and Amar's families or some other appropriate use (for example the tree concept).
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TomD (Tifosi)
Advanced Member Username: Tifosi
Post Number: 3915 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 10:39 am: | |
I am in as well. Still in shock and having trouble explaining the shock to non board members |
izel k. (Ferrarist)
Junior Member Username: Ferrarist
Post Number: 238 Registered: 3-2001
| Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 10:20 am: | |
How can i contribute i'm not a member of paypal they didn't list Turkey on the list. So i didn't sign up. Can anyone help me by private message or from here? |
Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi12
Post Number: 1347 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 10:09 am: | |
I'm in. Love the tree idea as well. Still trying to figure out the sense in all of this, but maybe some things in life just don't have much. It is so sad. |
Joel Belser (Driver)
New member Username: Driver
Post Number: 39 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 10:00 am: | |
I'm in. |
James Dunne (Audiguy)
Junior Member Username: Audiguy
Post Number: 58 Registered: 6-2003
| Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 9:57 am: | |
IN. I sat here silent just reading FC for three years before posting for the first time last month. I read many times the posts by Amar and Jens. I felt I had come to know them both. I pray for peace and rest for their families and friends. |
John A (Jarends)
Member Username: Jarends
Post Number: 256 Registered: 7-2001
| Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 8:56 am: | |
Linda and I are in, Just a thought, I think a large tribute it Forza is a great idea. Second, We twice purchased a large flowering tree for the family/ies that suffered the lose. We had the tree planted where the family indicated and every spring it would flower with new and beautiful life. It was a lasting tribute to the precious life lost. Just a thought. Giving a needy family money for help is a good idea, for anyone else, it seems empty. This will be with us a long time, Regards to all, John/Linda |
Paul Sloan (Sloan83qv)
Member Username: Sloan83qv
Post Number: 578 Registered: 3-2001
| Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 8:39 am: | |
I'm in! |
Augustine J. Staino (Azzuro328)
Junior Member Username: Azzuro328
Post Number: 76 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 8:12 am: | |
Count me in! |
Rijk Rietveld (Rijk365gtb4)
Junior Member Username: Rijk365gtb4
Post Number: 248 Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 7:02 am: | |
In |
Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts
Post Number: 4913 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 6:32 am: | |
After it became clear yesterday that it was in fact them I had to leave. The thought has haunted me through the night. More with a blank stare than anything but now reading how deep all of our family really is brings tears to my eyes. Yes, I am in. Rob and I have contacts to Forza if that helps at all. I am sure we can do something in Forza as well as send the remainder of the funds to the families or give them a choice of their favorite charity. |
Ulf Modig (Ulf308qv)
Junior Member Username: Ulf308qv
Post Number: 74 Registered: 3-2001
| Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 5:28 am: | |
I'm in as well. Amar was supposed to get married soon. Still can't beleive that they are gone. |
Ton Visser (Lion315)
Member Username: Lion315
Post Number: 633 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 5:23 am: | |
Wolfgang, I will contact Jens' family in a few days and ask them for the information about the funeral, etc. I will tell them about the enormous amount of loving, caring responses on this very strong community. I hope that it gives them as much comfort as it gives me. I will let you know. Ton |
David Mcguire (Matkat)
New member Username: Matkat
Post Number: 32 Registered: 3-2003
| Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 4:28 am: | |
I am so very sad to hear this tragic news .Though I did not know them their enthusiasm for the marque and this forum was obvious.My deepest sympathies go to their family and many friends.Please include me in any tribute. with greatest respect Dave McGuire |
Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
Member Username: 53345
Post Number: 362 Registered: 3-2003
| Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 4:13 am: | |
Ton, its so good to see you here again and I know whats going on inside you since yesterday..I`m with you. Ton, is there anything I / we can do here in Germany/Europe for the familys? I can`sit here any longer. |
Ton Visser (Lion315)
Member Username: Lion315
Post Number: 631 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 4:01 am: | |
I just woke up again and I am happy to see so many responses from this community. Although it does not change the fact it does give me some comfort. I just can't get Jens out of my mind. We spent so many hours together talking about Ferrari, life, women and work. I miss his smile and his enthusiasm. Ton |
Mark Pautz (Malfark)
Member Username: Malfark
Post Number: 297 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 3:38 am: | |
This loss is especially tragic for those of us in Europe. Please include me in any form of tribute that is finally decided on. Wolfgang - get some sleep. I will speak with you later. MARK |
Byron (Bmyth)
Member Username: Bmyth
Post Number: 804 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 3:21 am: | |
Ken, set it up. I would like to contribute. |
Jordan Witherspoon (Jordan747_400)
Intermediate Member Username: Jordan747_400
Post Number: 1295 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 2:49 am: | |
Im in as well...The add in Forza is a great idea, and judging by the amount of people interested in helping out, Im sure there will be extra money left over which could be sent to their families. Either way though, Ill be more than happy to contribute. If you guys dont mind, I would like to try and compose a song in memorial to both of them. |
Paul Loussia (Bumboola)
Junior Member Username: Bumboola
Post Number: 105 Registered: 3-2003
| Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 2:42 am: | |
Either way or both. I'm in. Paul |
Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Intermediate Member Username: Stickanddice
Post Number: 1203 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 2:41 am: | |
Geez. Just read this thread. I'm definitely in. I always enjoyed reading threads from these guys. I read more of Jens than Amar, but both a very big loss to our community. |
Ryan550 (Ryanab)
Member Username: Ryanab
Post Number: 380 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 1:56 am: | |
Count me in. Ryan |
Kenny Herman (Kennyh)
Intermediate Member Username: Kennyh
Post Number: 1019 Registered: 8-2001
| Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 1:33 am: | |
I'm in.
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Ming Cheng (Onlinesys)
Member Username: Onlinesys
Post Number: 299 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 1:31 am: | |
Just count me in! Try to establish a Paypal account with the email address so that all of us could send money through it.
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Alex Lee (Alxlee)
Junior Member Username: Alxlee
Post Number: 174 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 1:20 am: | |
I'm in. |
A.Tonokaboni (Senna1994)
Junior Member Username: Senna1994
Post Number: 113 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 1:19 am: | |
Count me in. |
Scott A. B. Collins (Scott)
Junior Member Username: Scott
Post Number: 183 Registered: 6-2001
| Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 12:31 am: | |
I'm in. |
Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
Member Username: 53345
Post Number: 360 Registered: 3-2003
| Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 12:30 am: | |
Amar, thats my Post Numer: 360 Its for you and in memory of you and your beloved dream car 360 Modena. I miss you so much. Wolfgang |
Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
Member Username: 53345
Post Number: 359 Registered: 3-2003
| Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 12:26 am: | |
.....still sitting here and waiting for Jens & Amar. .....still can`t believe it. We (me & my european fchat friends) will drive to the funeral of Jens in Bonn and bring a "Trauerkranz"(sorry, don`t know the translation my brain is empty) with a tribute-banner from the friends of fchat.com Try to arrange and drive als to UK to do the same for Amar. Wolfgang |
Steven J. Solomon (Solly)
Member Username: Solly
Post Number: 495 Registered: 6-2001
| Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 12:21 am: | |
I'm in too. |
Jeff (Jeff_m)
Junior Member Username: Jeff_m
Post Number: 156 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 11:49 pm: | |
Im in as well, whatever you guys decide. As many of you, I didn't know either of them but feel a great loss to not only our little community but to the families and friends. May they rest in peace.. |
Jason Williams (Pristines4)
Member Username: Pristines4
Post Number: 428 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 11:46 pm: | |
I'm in too. |
Jeffrey Wolfe (86mondial32)
Junior Member Username: 86mondial32
Post Number: 114 Registered: 5-2003
| Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 11:41 pm: | |
I am in... but not sure about a fund. If he could afford to run a 360 I am sure that his family is well provided for. Offering money could seem just a little cheesy. |
Ricky Nardis (Rickyn_f355)
Member Username: Rickyn_f355
Post Number: 384 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 11:35 pm: | |
i'm in... |
martin j weiner,M.D. (Mw575)
Intermediate Member Username: Mw575
Post Number: 1032 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 11:31 pm: | |
In. |
L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Intermediate Member Username: Lwausbrooks
Post Number: 1988 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 11:19 pm: | |
Both. |
Ken Thomas (Future328driver)
Member Username: Future328driver
Post Number: 374 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 11:18 pm: | |
I can check out the free ad from Forza. But, I am also open to a fund to donate money to the families. I talked with my fiancee about what happened and she thought that donating to the families might be the most appropriate thing to do. If that is the case, is there anybody on the board that knows the families? If so, then maybe they would be a more appropriate point person. What do you all think? Forza memorial or a fund for the families?
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Scott DeGhetto (Scott63)
Junior Member Username: Scott63
Post Number: 96 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 11:10 pm: | |
I'm in.... |
"The Don" (The_don)
Senior Member Username: The_don
Post Number: 5400 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 10:42 pm: | |
I'm in |
Lawrence Yee (Ferrariguy)
Junior Member Username: Ferrariguy
Post Number: 248 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 10:40 pm: | |
Definitely count me in. I just got back from dinner and found this terrible news. I am so sorry.... |
Cannot Be Spoken (Unspoken)
New member Username: Unspoken
Post Number: 1 Registered: 6-2003
| Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 10:40 pm: | |
I can hear them both whimpering  |
Peter (Bubba)
Member Username: Bubba
Post Number: 444 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 10:22 pm: | |
Count me in. |
Ken Ross (Kdross)
Member Username: Kdross
Post Number: 379 Registered: 2-2002
| Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 10:19 pm: | |
How about instead of an ad, we contribute to a fund for the families? This would appear to be a better use of the money. Ken |
Jason Fraser (Jfraser)
Member Username: Jfraser
Post Number: 409 Registered: 3-2001
| Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 10:16 pm: | |
Excellant idea (as is the PayPal account) and a very fitting tribute to our fallen friends. I'm sure one way or another we can make it a full page. Please let me know how I can help |
Pat Pasqualini (Enzo)
Member Username: Enzo
Post Number: 620 Registered: 2-2002
| Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 10:14 pm: | |
I'm in for sure. Let me know what I need to do. |
Patrick Denonville (Arizonaguy)
Member Username: Arizonaguy
Post Number: 268 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 10:13 pm: | |
If Jens and Amar subscribed to Forza do you think they would dedicate a page for free to two of their valuable readers? |
L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Intermediate Member Username: Lwausbrooks
Post Number: 1985 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 10:13 pm: | |
"Been sick to my stomach all day as this came out." JRV, I've had the same feeling as well. Ken, I think the Forza tribute is a wonderful idea. Please count me in. |
Mister Jones (Davey_jones)
New member Username: Davey_jones
Post Number: 35 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 10:12 pm: | |
I'm in too |
BobD (Bobd)
Intermediate Member Username: Bobd
Post Number: 1283 Registered: 3-2001
| Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 10:08 pm: | |
In. |
Tyson Hall (Trhall)
Junior Member Username: Trhall
Post Number: 72 Registered: 6-2003
| Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 9:48 pm: | |
The people on this board are top knotch. I would like to help as well. Tyson |
Dr. Ken Lee (Kenster888)
Junior Member Username: Kenster888
Post Number: 105 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 9:45 pm: | |
Count me too. |
Steven Duke (Sduke)
New member Username: Sduke
Post Number: 12 Registered: 3-2003
| Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 9:43 pm: | |
I'm in steve |
Ernesto (T88power)
Intermediate Member Username: T88power
Post Number: 1538 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 9:40 pm: | |
Count me in. E. PS. Why don't you open a dedicated PayPal Account and we can all send the money there? |
Russ Turner (Snj5)
Junior Member Username: Snj5
Post Number: 223 Registered: 2-2003
| Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 9:29 pm: | |
I'm in |
Ken Thomas (Future328driver)
Member Username: Future328driver
Post Number: 373 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 9:19 pm: | |
As far as contributions, the best way might be to send a cash donation. We can use that to pay for the ad and if there is anything left over we can figure out how to give it back to the families. I need time to think about the best way to get it all organized, but maybe it is best if everyone who is interested send me a private e-mail and I can give you my contact information. That way, if you all feel comfortable sending your donation to me, I can work with Rob and anybody else who would like to help out to get the ball rolling. As money is collected, I can update everybody on the totals. If anybody has a suggestion for a better way to handle the donations, please let me know as I am open to suggestions. |
John A (Jarends)
Member Username: Jarends
Post Number: 255 Registered: 7-2001
| Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 9:13 pm: | |
Bruce told Linda and I the news over dinner tonight. A tragedy like this is hard to take in, I wouldn't believe it. A part of each of us has died and will stay so until?? Reading the thread and the anquish Wolfgang felt put a chill in us. Absolute horror. Anything we can do? Praying for them the greatest we can do, honor and tribute the best we can do on this earthly level.
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Ken Thomas (Future328driver)
Member Username: Future328driver
Post Number: 372 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 9:12 pm: | |
Rob, if you read this, send me a private e-mail I will give you my home phone number so that we can get something going as I dont know the best way to apprach Forza about this. |
Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
Intermediate Member Username: Bws88tr
Post Number: 2074 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 9:12 pm: | |
I THINK WOLFGANG IS THE CLOSEST F-CHATTER HERE TO BOTH OF THEM... ANYBODY KNOW OF BOTH FAMILIES OTHER THAN WOLFGANG?? |
Rikky Alessi (Ralessi)
Junior Member Username: Ralessi
Post Number: 185 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 9:11 pm: | |
I would be willing to throw in a few bucks as well, this is really great idea. |
JRV (Jrvall)
Intermediate Member Username: Jrvall
Post Number: 1767 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 9:10 pm: | |
I'm in post the details when things are ready. I liked Jens especially, been sick to my stomach all day as this came out. |
Andy Falsetta (Tuttebenne)
Junior Member Username: Tuttebenne
Post Number: 192 Registered: 3-2003
| Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 9:09 pm: | |
This is a nice idea. Please include me. |
William H (Countachxx)
Advanced Member Username: Countachxx
Post Number: 2655 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 9:06 pm: | |
I'm in |
Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
Intermediate Member Username: Bws88tr
Post Number: 2073 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 9:06 pm: | |
KEN IM WITH YOU BUDDY, LET ME KNOW DETAILS WHEN YOU FIND OUT JENS ALWAYS WISHED ME GOOD HEALTH DURING MY SICKNESS,,,IM SICK FROM THIS NEWS ABOUT BOTH OF THEM BRUCE |
Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Intermediate Member Username: Amenasce
Post Number: 1153 Registered: 10-2001
| Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 9:05 pm: | |
Im in . How can i contribute ? |
Patrick Denonville (Arizonaguy)
Member Username: Arizonaguy
Post Number: 266 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 9:05 pm: | |
I'm in too. |
Ken Thomas (Future328driver)
Member Username: Future328driver
Post Number: 371 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 9:03 pm: | |
I would be more than happy to coordinate. I can get with Rob (since we both live in Dallas) and figure out how to do a nice ad. It would be great if we could get enough money to get a full page color ad to put in Forza in a future edition |
wm hart (Whart)
Intermediate Member Username: Whart
Post Number: 1284 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 8:59 pm: | |
I'm in. Will you coordinate, Ken? |
Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
Intermediate Member Username: Bws88tr
Post Number: 2072 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 8:59 pm: | |
ME 3 KEN.ILL GET THE WHOLE NJ NY CONN COMMUNITY TO CONTRIBUTE..LETS JUST FIND THE CLOSEST MEMBER HERE TO EITHER FAMILIES SO WE CAN HELP... BRUCE |
Tyler (Bahiaau)
Member Username: Bahiaau
Post Number: 813 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 8:56 pm: | |
I'm certainly for that. |
Ken Thomas (Future328driver)
Member Username: Future328driver
Post Number: 369 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 8:34 pm: | |
It is terribly sad to lose friends. And we have all lost two today. I never met either Jens and Amar and similarly I have never met many others on this board. However, I consider us all to be friends and members of a family. I propose that FChat put a memorium in Forza in place of the regular advertisement for Jens and Amar. I don't doubt that every member of this board would be willing to chip in $5 for a nice tribute to two men who truly had the passion.
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