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"The Don" (The_don)
Senior Member
Username: The_don

Post Number: 5410
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 11:02 am:   

Ken,

I have a contact at FNA legal that I used for FerrariChat.com and the Ferraridrivingclub. I can call Him on Monday if you like.

Matt
TomD (Tifosi)
Advanced Member
Username: Tifosi

Post Number: 3916
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 11:01 am:   

I am sure we will have many ideas but Rob ususally has a black ad with white type, simple is best.

The Ferrarichat.com community mourns the tragic deaths of our Friends, Amar and Jens.
Ken Thomas (Future328driver)
Member
Username: Future328driver

Post Number: 378
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 10:50 am:   

Warren,
I thought about that as well last night. That is why I think the memorial should be subdued and classy and not gaudy. I dont think we should use last names (just say "Jens and Amar") and keep it to a 1/2 page, color peice. Nothing to extreme maybe just a brief statement of remembrance imposed over the prancing horse logo (I could write to Ferrari corporate about any copyright issues, but I would hope they would not mind) and maybe a statement of goodbye and god speed written in Italian.
Warren L. (Warren)
Junior Member
Username: Warren

Post Number: 240
Registered: 2-2002
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 10:44 am:   

If their families don't mind the publicized tribute, I'm in too.
Ken Thomas (Future328driver)
Member
Username: Future328driver

Post Number: 377
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 10:41 am:   

Martin, can either you or Rob contact Forza about the page space? (maybe 1/2 page color - a full page seems a bit much)

Since you both have contacts there, that is probably better than me calling them out of the blue.

Thanks.
Ken Thomas (Future328driver)
Member
Username: Future328driver

Post Number: 376
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 10:39 am:   

I will try to set up a PayPal account later this evening and then create a new post with all the information. I think this is the best way to go about getting donations.

I still need to get a hold of Rob to make sure he agrees with this idea since FerrariChat is his creation and the memorial would appear on behalf of FChat.

If we have any graphic artists on the board, please let me know and maybe they can help design something very respectful and classy that we can submit directly to Forza without having to hire a professional ad/design agency. That way, if we get the Forza space for a low cost or free, the money that we collect in the PayPal account can be given to Jens' and Amar's families or some other appropriate use (for example the tree concept).

TomD (Tifosi)
Advanced Member
Username: Tifosi

Post Number: 3915
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 10:39 am:   

I am in as well. Still in shock and having trouble explaining the shock to non board members
izel k. (Ferrarist)
Junior Member
Username: Ferrarist

Post Number: 238
Registered: 3-2001
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 10:20 am:   

How can i contribute i'm not a member of paypal they didn't list Turkey on the list. So i didn't sign up.
Can anyone help me by private message or from here?
Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
Intermediate Member
Username: Tifosi12

Post Number: 1347
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 10:09 am:   

I'm in. Love the tree idea as well. Still trying to figure out the sense in all of this, but maybe some things in life just don't have much. It is so sad.
Joel Belser (Driver)
New member
Username: Driver

Post Number: 39
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 10:00 am:   

I'm in.
James Dunne (Audiguy)
Junior Member
Username: Audiguy

Post Number: 58
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 9:57 am:   

IN.

I sat here silent just reading FC for three years before posting for the first time last month. I read many times the posts by Amar and Jens. I felt I had come to know them both. I pray for peace and rest for their families and friends.
John A (Jarends)
Member
Username: Jarends

Post Number: 256
Registered: 7-2001
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 8:56 am:   

Linda and I are in,

Just a thought, I think a large tribute it Forza is a great idea. Second, We twice purchased a large flowering tree for the family/ies that suffered the lose. We had the tree planted where the family indicated and every spring it would flower with new and beautiful life. It was a lasting tribute to the precious life lost. Just a thought. Giving a needy family money for help is a good idea, for anyone else, it seems empty.

This will be with us a long time,
Regards to all,
John/Linda
Paul Sloan (Sloan83qv)
Member
Username: Sloan83qv

Post Number: 578
Registered: 3-2001
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 8:39 am:   

I'm in!
Augustine J. Staino (Azzuro328)
Junior Member
Username: Azzuro328

Post Number: 76
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 8:12 am:   

Count me in!
Rijk Rietveld (Rijk365gtb4)
Junior Member
Username: Rijk365gtb4

Post Number: 248
Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 7:02 am:   

In
Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member
Username: Miami348ts

Post Number: 4913
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 6:32 am:   

After it became clear yesterday that it was in fact them I had to leave.
The thought has haunted me through the night. More with a blank stare than anything but now reading how deep all of our family really is brings tears to my eyes.

Yes, I am in. Rob and I have contacts to Forza if that helps at all.

I am sure we can do something in Forza as well as send the remainder of the funds to the families or give them a choice of their favorite charity.
Ulf Modig (Ulf308qv)
Junior Member
Username: Ulf308qv

Post Number: 74
Registered: 3-2001
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 5:28 am:   

I'm in as well. Amar was supposed to get married soon. Still can't beleive that they are gone.
Ton Visser (Lion315)
Member
Username: Lion315

Post Number: 633
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 5:23 am:   

Wolfgang,

I will contact Jens' family in a few days and ask them for the information about the funeral, etc. I will tell them about the enormous amount of loving, caring responses on this very strong community. I hope that it gives them as much comfort as it gives me.

I will let you know.

Ton
David Mcguire (Matkat)
New member
Username: Matkat

Post Number: 32
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 4:28 am:   

I am so very sad to hear this tragic news .Though I did not know them their enthusiasm for the marque and this forum was obvious.My deepest sympathies go to their family and many friends.Please include me in any tribute.
with greatest respect
Dave McGuire
Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
Member
Username: 53345

Post Number: 362
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 4:13 am:   

Ton,

its so good to see you here again and I know whats going on inside you since yesterday..I`m with you.
Ton, is there anything I / we can do here in Germany/Europe for the familys? I can`sit here any longer.
Ton Visser (Lion315)
Member
Username: Lion315

Post Number: 631
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 4:01 am:   

I just woke up again and I am happy to see so many responses from this community. Although it does not change the fact it does give me some comfort. I just can't get Jens out of my mind. We spent so many hours together talking about Ferrari, life, women and work. I miss his smile and his enthusiasm.

Ton
Mark Pautz (Malfark)
Member
Username: Malfark

Post Number: 297
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 3:38 am:   

This loss is especially tragic for those of us in Europe. Please include me in any form of tribute that is finally decided on.

Wolfgang - get some sleep. I will speak with you later.

MARK
Byron (Bmyth)
Member
Username: Bmyth

Post Number: 804
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 3:21 am:   

Ken, set it up. I would like to contribute.
Jordan Witherspoon (Jordan747_400)
Intermediate Member
Username: Jordan747_400

Post Number: 1295
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 2:49 am:   

Im in as well...The add in Forza is a great idea, and judging by the amount of people interested in helping out, Im sure there will be extra money left over which could be sent to their families. Either way though, Ill be more than happy to contribute.

If you guys dont mind, I would like to try and compose a song in memorial to both of them.
Paul Loussia (Bumboola)
Junior Member
Username: Bumboola

Post Number: 105
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 2:42 am:   

Either way or both. I'm in.

Paul
Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Intermediate Member
Username: Stickanddice

Post Number: 1203
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 2:41 am:   

Geez. Just read this thread.

I'm definitely in.

I always enjoyed reading threads from these guys. I read more of Jens than Amar, but both a very big loss to our community.
Ryan550 (Ryanab)
Member
Username: Ryanab

Post Number: 380
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 1:56 am:   

Count me in.

Ryan
Kenny Herman (Kennyh)
Intermediate Member
Username: Kennyh

Post Number: 1019
Registered: 8-2001
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 1:33 am:   

I'm in.

Ming Cheng (Onlinesys)
Member
Username: Onlinesys

Post Number: 299
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 1:31 am:   

Just count me in!

Try to establish a Paypal account with the email address so that all of us could send money through it.

Alex Lee (Alxlee)
Junior Member
Username: Alxlee

Post Number: 174
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 1:20 am:   

I'm in.
A.Tonokaboni (Senna1994)
Junior Member
Username: Senna1994

Post Number: 113
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 1:19 am:   

Count me in.
Scott A. B. Collins (Scott)
Junior Member
Username: Scott

Post Number: 183
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 12:31 am:   

I'm in.
Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
Member
Username: 53345

Post Number: 360
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 12:30 am:   

Amar,

thats my Post Numer: 360
Its for you and in memory of you and your beloved
dream car 360 Modena.
I miss you so much.

Wolfgang
Wolfgang Eistert (53345)
Member
Username: 53345

Post Number: 359
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 12:26 am:   

.....still sitting here and waiting for Jens & Amar.
.....still can`t believe it.

We (me & my european fchat friends) will drive to the funeral of Jens in Bonn and bring a "Trauerkranz"(sorry, don`t know the translation my brain is empty) with a tribute-banner from the friends of fchat.com
Try to arrange and drive als to UK to do the same for Amar.

Wolfgang
Steven J. Solomon (Solly)
Member
Username: Solly

Post Number: 495
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 12:21 am:   

I'm in too.
Jeff (Jeff_m)
Junior Member
Username: Jeff_m

Post Number: 156
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 11:49 pm:   

Im in as well, whatever you guys decide. As many of you, I didn't know either of them but feel a great loss to not only our little community but to the families and friends. May they rest in peace..
Jason Williams (Pristines4)
Member
Username: Pristines4

Post Number: 428
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 11:46 pm:   

I'm in too.
Jeffrey Wolfe (86mondial32)
Junior Member
Username: 86mondial32

Post Number: 114
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 11:41 pm:   

I am in... but not sure about a fund. If he could afford to run a 360 I am sure that his family is well provided for. Offering money could seem just a little cheesy.
Ricky Nardis (Rickyn_f355)
Member
Username: Rickyn_f355

Post Number: 384
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 11:35 pm:   

i'm in...
martin j weiner,M.D. (Mw575)
Intermediate Member
Username: Mw575

Post Number: 1032
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 11:31 pm:   

In.
L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Intermediate Member
Username: Lwausbrooks

Post Number: 1988
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 11:19 pm:   

Both.
Ken Thomas (Future328driver)
Member
Username: Future328driver

Post Number: 374
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 11:18 pm:   

I can check out the free ad from Forza. But, I am also open to a fund to donate money to the families. I talked with my fiancee about what happened and she thought that donating to the families might be the most appropriate thing to do. If that is the case, is there anybody on the board that knows the families? If so, then maybe they would be a more appropriate point person.

What do you all think? Forza memorial or a fund for the families?

Scott DeGhetto (Scott63)
Junior Member
Username: Scott63

Post Number: 96
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 11:10 pm:   

I'm in....
"The Don" (The_don)
Senior Member
Username: The_don

Post Number: 5400
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 10:42 pm:   

I'm in
Lawrence Yee (Ferrariguy)
Junior Member
Username: Ferrariguy

Post Number: 248
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 10:40 pm:   

Definitely count me in. I just got back from dinner and found this terrible news. :-(

I am so sorry....
Cannot Be Spoken (Unspoken)
New member
Username: Unspoken

Post Number: 1
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 10:40 pm:   

I can hear them both whimpering :-)
Peter (Bubba)
Member
Username: Bubba

Post Number: 444
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 10:22 pm:   

Count me in.
Ken Ross (Kdross)
Member
Username: Kdross

Post Number: 379
Registered: 2-2002
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 10:19 pm:   

How about instead of an ad, we contribute to a fund for the families? This would appear to be a better use of the money.

Ken
Jason Fraser (Jfraser)
Member
Username: Jfraser

Post Number: 409
Registered: 3-2001
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 10:16 pm:   

Excellant idea (as is the PayPal account) and a very fitting tribute to our fallen friends. I'm sure one way or another we can make it a full page. Please let me know how I can help
Pat Pasqualini (Enzo)
Member
Username: Enzo

Post Number: 620
Registered: 2-2002
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 10:14 pm:   

I'm in for sure. Let me know what I need to do.
Patrick Denonville (Arizonaguy)
Member
Username: Arizonaguy

Post Number: 268
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 10:13 pm:   

If Jens and Amar subscribed to Forza do you think they would dedicate a page for free to two of their valuable readers?
L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Intermediate Member
Username: Lwausbrooks

Post Number: 1985
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 10:13 pm:   

"Been sick to my stomach all day as this came out." JRV, I've had the same feeling as well.

Ken, I think the Forza tribute is a wonderful idea. Please count me in.
Mister Jones (Davey_jones)
New member
Username: Davey_jones

Post Number: 35
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 10:12 pm:   

I'm in too
BobD (Bobd)
Intermediate Member
Username: Bobd

Post Number: 1283
Registered: 3-2001
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 10:08 pm:   

In.
Tyson Hall (Trhall)
Junior Member
Username: Trhall

Post Number: 72
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 9:48 pm:   

The people on this board are top knotch. I would like to help as well.

Tyson
Dr. Ken Lee (Kenster888)
Junior Member
Username: Kenster888

Post Number: 105
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 9:45 pm:   

Count me too.
Steven Duke (Sduke)
New member
Username: Sduke

Post Number: 12
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 9:43 pm:   

I'm in

steve
Ernesto (T88power)
Intermediate Member
Username: T88power

Post Number: 1538
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 9:40 pm:   

Count me in.

E.

PS. Why don't you open a dedicated PayPal Account and we can all send the money there?
Russ Turner (Snj5)
Junior Member
Username: Snj5

Post Number: 223
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 9:29 pm:   

I'm in
Ken Thomas (Future328driver)
Member
Username: Future328driver

Post Number: 373
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 9:19 pm:   

As far as contributions, the best way might be to send a cash donation. We can use that to pay for the ad and if there is anything left over we can figure out how to give it back to the families.

I need time to think about the best way to get it all organized, but maybe it is best if everyone who is interested send me a private e-mail and I can give you my contact information. That way, if you all feel comfortable sending your donation to me, I can work with Rob and anybody else who would like to help out to get the ball rolling. As money is collected, I can update everybody on the totals.

If anybody has a suggestion for a better way to handle the donations, please let me know as I am open to suggestions.
John A (Jarends)
Member
Username: Jarends

Post Number: 255
Registered: 7-2001
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 9:13 pm:   

Bruce told Linda and I the news over dinner tonight. A tragedy like this is hard to take in, I wouldn't believe it. A part of each of us has died and will stay so until??

Reading the thread and the anquish Wolfgang felt put a chill in us. Absolute horror.

Anything we can do? Praying for them the greatest we can do, honor and tribute the best we can do on this earthly level.
Ken Thomas (Future328driver)
Member
Username: Future328driver

Post Number: 372
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 9:12 pm:   

Rob, if you read this, send me a private e-mail I will give you my home phone number so that we can get something going as I dont know the best way to apprach Forza about this.
Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
Intermediate Member
Username: Bws88tr

Post Number: 2074
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 9:12 pm:   

I THINK WOLFGANG IS THE CLOSEST F-CHATTER HERE TO BOTH OF THEM...

ANYBODY KNOW OF BOTH FAMILIES OTHER THAN WOLFGANG??
Rikky Alessi (Ralessi)
Junior Member
Username: Ralessi

Post Number: 185
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 9:11 pm:   

I would be willing to throw in a few bucks as well, this is really great idea.
JRV (Jrvall)
Intermediate Member
Username: Jrvall

Post Number: 1767
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 9:10 pm:   

I'm in

post the details when things are ready.

I liked Jens especially, been sick to my stomach all day as this came out.
Andy Falsetta (Tuttebenne)
Junior Member
Username: Tuttebenne

Post Number: 192
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 9:09 pm:   

This is a nice idea. Please include me.
William H (Countachxx)
Advanced Member
Username: Countachxx

Post Number: 2655
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 9:06 pm:   

I'm in
Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
Intermediate Member
Username: Bws88tr

Post Number: 2073
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 9:06 pm:   

KEN

IM WITH YOU BUDDY, LET ME KNOW DETAILS WHEN YOU FIND OUT

JENS ALWAYS WISHED ME GOOD HEALTH DURING MY SICKNESS,,,IM SICK FROM THIS NEWS ABOUT BOTH OF THEM

BRUCE
Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Intermediate Member
Username: Amenasce

Post Number: 1153
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 9:05 pm:   

Im in . How can i contribute ?
Patrick Denonville (Arizonaguy)
Member
Username: Arizonaguy

Post Number: 266
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 9:05 pm:   

I'm in too.
Ken Thomas (Future328driver)
Member
Username: Future328driver

Post Number: 371
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 9:03 pm:   

I would be more than happy to coordinate. I can get with Rob (since we both live in Dallas) and figure out how to do a nice ad. It would be great if we could get enough money to get a full page color ad to put in Forza in a future edition
wm hart (Whart)
Intermediate Member
Username: Whart

Post Number: 1284
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 8:59 pm:   

I'm in. Will you coordinate, Ken?
Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
Intermediate Member
Username: Bws88tr

Post Number: 2072
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 8:59 pm:   

ME 3 KEN.ILL GET THE WHOLE NJ NY CONN COMMUNITY TO CONTRIBUTE..LETS JUST FIND THE CLOSEST MEMBER HERE TO EITHER FAMILIES SO WE CAN HELP...

BRUCE
Tyler (Bahiaau)
Member
Username: Bahiaau

Post Number: 813
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 8:56 pm:   

I'm certainly for that.
Ken Thomas (Future328driver)
Member
Username: Future328driver

Post Number: 369
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 8:34 pm:   

It is terribly sad to lose friends. And we have all lost two today. I never met either Jens and Amar and similarly I have never met many others on this board. However, I consider us all to be friends and members of a family.

I propose that FChat put a memorium in Forza in place of the regular advertisement for Jens and Amar.

I don't doubt that every member of this board would be willing to chip in $5 for a nice tribute to two men who truly had the passion.

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