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Robert (Rjklein4470)
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Post Number: 267
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 7:09 pm:   

If you buy for a dealer you will always pay more, but I am not sure it is ever too much. Buying from a dealer will get you in the food chain, and if you want to be able to order a new Ferrari at MSRP this has signifigant(sp) value in my opinion.

I have a Euro car, and I did pay less, but unlike Dave I am not on the list for the 360 replacement car. And I have no established relationship with a dealer. So I feel like I got more car for my money, but on the other hand it will cost me more to get into a new dealer car in the future.

If this is you dream car, and you are never going to have another Ferrari, I would buy from a owner. If you get bit by the prancing horse and you would always like to have a ferrari in the barn get in the food chain.
Ken (Allyn)
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Username: Allyn

Post Number: 1031
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 6:55 pm:   

Ferraris have that 'je ne sais quoi' appeal and limited production is a key. Other marques don't compare.

I wish my Europa TC would catch on somehow; there are only a handfull (maybe 100?) left in top running condition in the US and if you can find one for sale, they can be had for the price of a GT4 or Mondial 8. Just goes to show how valuable that little horse (or DINO badge) can be huh.
Terry Springer (Tspringer)
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Username: Tspringer

Post Number: 637
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 5:07 pm:   

My '77 308GTB was purchased by a prior owner in 1990 for $76K. HE sold it in 1998 for $32K. The prior owner of my Daytona traded a '66 275GTB even for the car in 1975. He turned down offers in the $450K region during the crazy late 80s. He didnt care, his intentions at the time were never to sell.

I think values on limited production cars will increase over time, perhaps slightly ahead of the inflation rate. If thousands were produced however, then they can never bring big dollars.
Lee Pierce (Leepierce)
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Username: Leepierce

Post Number: 139
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 12:59 pm:   

Michael: Did you come out ahead after repairs? Even if repairs were $10-15k, that's a good overall price for a 328 a few years ago. Right now, can't you find a good one for around $40k?
Steve Magnusson (91tr)
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Username: 91tr

Post Number: 1929
Registered: 1-2001
Posted on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 10:20 am:   

Jim -- I agree (and was surprised that the 360 MSRP didn't increase more a few years ago as its street price -to- MSRP gap increased).
Mitchel DeFrancis (4re308)
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Username: 4re308

Post Number: 945
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 10:15 am:   

Tony, I knew a guy who paid $285,000 for a yellow/tan 88 TR! Ouchy!
James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
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Username: Napolis

Post Number: 1853
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 10:08 am:   

Steve
That's interesting. I think Ferrari was beginning to realize how much people were willing to pay and raised the price. (I realize my 88 was different than a 91)
Michael C. James (Mjames)
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Username: Mjames

Post Number: 16
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 10:04 am:   

During my College years (1990-94), I leafed through DuPont Registry quite often - I saw ads for 308 GT4 Dinos just north of $85,000....one poor sap in Prince Fredrick, Md still thinks his 308 Dino is worth $35K with over 80K on the clock and missing interior pieces. He also has in his shop a 330 GT 2+2 (4 headlight), in cold storage, with 2.5K on the clock. He firmly believes its worth in the neighborhood of $175,000. He still thinks its 1990.....as I'm sure many of the folks with Ferraris for sale today do.

When I had my 328, the previous owner of the car had purchased it for $125,000. I bought it for $25,000 after he damaged the front end. It had 15K on the clock when I had it....but that's another story.
Steve Magnusson (91tr)
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Username: 91tr

Post Number: 1928
Registered: 1-2001
Posted on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 9:53 am:   

Jim -- I did mess that up a little (but not much) -- the MSRP was $169K. With the delivery/destination charges and the gas guzzler tax included the bottom line on the window sticker was ~$176K:
TR3
David Stoeppelwerth (Racerdj)
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Username: Racerdj

Post Number: 309
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 9:52 am:   

Tony your question regarded used 308's and Testarossa's but in my case I can tell you I probably paid a little too much for my 360 ($170k 01/2002) but I found the car I really wanted with 293 miles, a 6 speed and Red /Tan. To me that was worth it. The added bonus is that I'm am on the 360 replacement LIST.
James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
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Username: Napolis

Post Number: 1851
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 9:44 am:   

Steve
Was MSRP that high in 91? In 88 I paid 123K for my new TR.
Best
Mitch Alsup (Mitch_alsup)
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Username: Mitch_alsup

Post Number: 809
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 9:43 am:   

"The original buyer of my '91 TR paid $207K ... sold it for $90K in 1998 with ~2K miles"

For a new record of $58.50 per mile!
Steve Magnusson (91tr)
Intermediate Member
Username: 91tr

Post Number: 1927
Registered: 1-2001
Posted on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 9:32 am:   

The original buyer of my '91 TR paid $207K to get it home ($176K MSRP + some added electronics -- radar & sound). He could have sold it immediately for $250K, so IMO he didn't pay too much -- he just kept it too long (sold it for $90K in 1998 with ~2K miles).
James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member
Username: Napolis

Post Number: 1850
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 8:49 am:   

IMHO anyone who pays up for a production F at any time is making a mistake.
With collector cars it's a bit more complex and at the very high end it's always a seller's market. I think with in ten years we will once again see 20 million 250 GTO's.
Ken (Allyn)
Intermediate Member
Username: Allyn

Post Number: 1024
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 8:14 am:   

A better question is who SOLD a Ferrari in the late 80's and cashed in?
Lucas Taratus (Karmavore)
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Username: Karmavore

Post Number: 245
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 7:57 am:   

"too much"
Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
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Username: Stickanddice

Post Number: 1293
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 5:22 am:   

Upload
Tony Roberts (Tony_roberts)
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Username: Tony_roberts

Post Number: 44
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 5:16 am:   

David,

I happen to think it was an interesting topic.
There are countless threads on this website
If you think it is a pointless thread, why do you
bother to comment at all.

BTW I was trying to point out how Ferrari's
have appreciated at different times.


Any more questions!
david handa (Davehanda)
Intermediate Member
Username: Davehanda

Post Number: 1082
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 2:31 am:   

Rambus stock was a "high flyer" back in 2000, did you or anyone you know buy this stock when it was at it's peak?

This question is about as pointless... :-)
david handa (Davehanda)
Intermediate Member
Username: Davehanda

Post Number: 1081
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 2:25 am:   

Tony, I am curious, why do you care? And more importantly, how do you come up with these pointless, questions?

And how old are you really? I will cut you a break if you are in high school. Perhaps you are just bored this summer and have no job to occupy your time...
Tony Roberts (Tony_roberts)
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Username: Tony_roberts

Post Number: 42
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 1:31 am:   

In the early 90's, used 308's and Testarossa's
were selling at a premium. Did you or anybody
you know buy a car at that time?

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