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Jeffrey Wolfe (86mondial32)
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Username: 86mondial32
Post Number: 276
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2003 - 8:16 am: | |
And does anyone know what happened with the Million dollar fine..? Who pays that? |
Jeffrey Wolfe (86mondial32)
Member
Username: 86mondial32
Post Number: 274
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2003 - 7:37 am: | |
I thought I had read his contract was extended...He was doing great until the end last year. This year and the new rules seem to have really stressed both team members out |
Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
Intermediate Member
Username: Tifosi12
Post Number: 1408
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 1:47 pm: | |
Thomas, you got a point. Rubens has somewhat lost it recently. The gap to Michael widened. He is the only F team member without a contract extension at this moment. Again 'only' 5th at Nuerburg. |
thomas daniels (Castex)
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Username: Castex
Post Number: 12
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 1:38 pm: | |
Barrichello seems a broken man. The Reigenmeister's chewn him up and spat him out. Actually, I think his car is now driven by remote control, and Rubinho is let out of his cell in the motorhome just to say "I think I can do it!" every saturday morning. |
Terry (Dogue)
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Username: Dogue
Post Number: 346
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 12:43 pm: | |
I really did not have a real problem with team orders. The team should work together to get the best overall outcome for the team regardless of current standings. Team orders have been banned, I know that they will still exist, but it will not be as blatant. I really dislike the purposely holding an opposing team up that they used to do, it seems much more underhanded to hold someone up to protect your leader, than to let your teamate pass to gain best points paying position.
Mitch: all sports are businesses. |
Mark Langfield (Ferrari_co_uk)
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Username: Ferrari_co_uk
Post Number: 42
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 10:56 am: | |
I think it caused such an uproar because it happened so early in the championship (it was before the halfway point) and because MS already had a massive points lead.
I much prefer when it is done blatantly though because everyone then knows the score, knows who really was the quickest on the day!
Also points should always be sorted on the track!! |
Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
Intermediate Member
Username: Tifosi12
Post Number: 1405
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 10:28 am: | |
I was seriously ticked off by that event, but had to admit, that it is common practice in F1. It has happened before with other teams as well and it will happen again. Probably in a less blatant form by e.g. a slow refuelling stop. But it will happen again.
Along those lines: Mc Laren just extended DC's contract and paid him a nice lump sum. Journalists look at it as 'blood money' to do his deed this year to brake for Kimi, who still has a realistic chance at the WC. |
Steve Magnusson (91tr)
Intermediate Member
Username: 91tr
Post Number: 1930
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 10:27 am: | |
MS said it best -- (something like) "and how stupid would we look if we didn't do that and we (meaning "me" of course) ultimately lost the championship by a point". I still think if teammates finish in consecutive points-paying positions the team should be given the option to switch the assigned points afterwards so they don't have to do that on the track. |
James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
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Username: Napolis
Post Number: 1854
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 10:09 am: | |
Mitch
I think you're right. |
Mitch Alsup (Mitch_alsup)
Member
Username: Mitch_alsup
Post Number: 811
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 9:55 am: | |
I think that this simply shows that F1 is a business and not a sport. |
Jeffrey Wolfe (86mondial32)
Member
Username: 86mondial32
Post Number: 263
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 8:39 am: | |
I was just looking back over the last F1 season and remembered Austria. The finish was clouded by team orders to allow Michael to finish first even though Rubens had been having the drive of his life. Most fans were outraged. Looking back I discovered that this is a standard policy for Ferrari at least. If you are running 1 and 2 you do not race and if one driver is in a position to win the championship that driver gets to finish first. It would seem a very logical way to protect a season. What did all of you think? |