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izel k (Ferrarist)
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Username: Ferrarist
Post Number: 15
Registered: 3-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 10:00 am: | |
There's a Nembo Spyder in "FORZA October 2001 Page 82". Looks awesome! |
Bill Sawyer (Wsawyer)
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Username: Wsawyer
Post Number: 98
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, April 20, 2002 - 9:14 pm: | |
David:
I think we're both right. Neri and Bonacini built them to designs by Tom Meade, didn't they? It will be interesting to find out who's right. |
David P. Smith (Dave330gtc)
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Username: Dave330gtc
Post Number: 4
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, April 20, 2002 - 2:20 pm: | |
The Nembo spider was a beautiful car built by the coachbuilder Neri & Bonacini in Modena, Italy. It combines some of the styling features of the 250 GTO and the 275 GTB along with their own touches. Tom Meade was also located in Modena in the late 1960s and built a few odd looking custom bodied cars. There is an interesting article about him in the December 1970 Road & Track. I don't know if his cars still survive. |
Bill Sawyer (Wsawyer)
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Username: Wsawyer
Post Number: 96
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, April 20, 2002 - 7:55 am: | |
Nembos were custom bodied Ferrari's made by a Californian named Tom Meade who moved to Maranello in the Sixties. He rebodied 3 or 4 cars. His designs put some over-the-top California flair on top of traditional Ferrari styling cues. If I remember correctly, the windshield on the Nembo Spyder was raked back at quite an angle. It looked spectacular, but people hated driving it because the sharp edge of the windshield post was mere inches away from the driver's eye. |
Terry Springer (Tspringer)
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Username: Tspringer
Post Number: 13
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Friday, April 19, 2002 - 3:50 pm: | |
Richelson, you may be thinking of the 250SWB which came before the GTO. Or, perhaps the 330LMB which looked almost identical to the GTO in the nose but had a cockpit and rear areas that looked more like a Lusso. The 330 is equally as rare though not as valuable. The SWB is more common though still very rare. Alloy SWB's or cars with significant race history go for big bucks. "Regular" steel SBW's can be bought for $600K or so depending on condition and history.
Terry |
Richelson (Richelson)
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Username: Richelson
Post Number: 697
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Friday, April 19, 2002 - 2:56 pm: | |
I thought they made more too. What are the 250 Nembos or ?. I saw one that was 600K. Are there any models of the 250s that look close to the GTOs? |
John A. Suarez (Futureowner)
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Username: Futureowner
Post Number: 23
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Friday, April 19, 2002 - 2:42 pm: | |
Wow! I didnt realize the 250gto's were so rare. Unreal. Thanks so far for the info. Please keep andding as much as you can. Very interesting stuff.
---John |
Norm Plaistowe (Normp)
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Username: Normp
Post Number: 22
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Friday, April 19, 2002 - 12:07 pm: | |
Ken, you're correct they made 36 of the 250's and then 3 more in '64 for a total of 39. And as the joke goes there are only 61 of them left today....Norm |
Ken (Allyn)
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Username: Allyn
Post Number: 346
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Friday, April 19, 2002 - 10:15 am: | |
There were like 36 250 GTO's built? I wonder if all are accounted for. Remember that old garage with the 3 vintage Ferraris on EBay? Makes me want to go barn hopping, you know? |
Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
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Username: Rob328gts
Post Number: 1457
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Friday, April 19, 2002 - 9:42 am: | |
There was that 250 GTO they found in a field here in Texas back in the 70's or early 80's I think. I don't know if anyone can find the full story anywhere. I think Forza did a blurb on it. Car was donated to a high school shop class and when they were done it went to pasture. Now, even a non restored one would go for $4 mil probably. |
Terry Daniel (Dogue)
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Username: Dogue
Post Number: 40
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Friday, April 19, 2002 - 9:27 am: | |
John,
I have a photo at home (somewhere) that is titled "blood brothers" and I believe it pictures a 250GTO and a 275 GTB/4 both in blue. I will try to dig it out this weekend and post it.
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Scott Anderson (Srandrsn)
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Username: Srandrsn
Post Number: 101
Registered: 4-2001
| | Posted on Friday, April 19, 2002 - 9:16 am: | |
I wonder what you could have bought the car for back in 72 when it was sitting out in the field? |
Terry Springer (Tspringer)
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Username: Tspringer
Post Number: 11
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Friday, April 19, 2002 - 8:18 am: | |
Unless your Mega-Rich, forget owning a 250GTO. I believe the last one to sell went for well over $9,000,000. Lusting is fine.... I do it almost every day. The 250GTO is probably my favorite Ferrari and would get my vote for most beautiful car ever.
250GTO #3589 was dark blue with a small white ring around the nose grill opening. This car was also fitted with unique small scoops to each side of the engine bay to assist in cooling. It was originally owned by Tommy Sopwith's Equipe Endeavour team. Mike Parkes raced it extensivly and really made his name in it.... his success lead to a Factory Team drive. After much success, it was sold in late 1962 to Rosebud racing in Texas who raced it in Nassau and Sebring.
In 1964 Rosebud stopped racing and the car was donated by team owner Tom O'Conner to the local highschool in Victoria Texas for use in their auto shop. Yup.... you read right. A GTO being messed around with my high school autoshop kids!
The story gets wierder....
In 1972 the car was sold to a guy named James Korton in Ohio. It was in need of some work, but rather than being restored the GTO was placed on a trailer and set out into a field for over 15 year. Can you imagine such a car just sitting in a field rotting? I have seen pictures that were taken in this state, very sad.
In 1988 it was finally sold to Bert Stieger in Switzerland who had it totally restored to original condition. A full Pebble Beach restoration. While im not a fan of this type of major over-restoration at least the car was saved. To my knowledge its still in this ownership.
I believe this was the only GTO originally painted dark blue. Could be wrong...
Terry |
ross koller (Ross)
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Username: Ross
Post Number: 39
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Friday, April 19, 2002 - 5:38 am: | |
also might add that i have done a fair amount of lusting after these 2 cars myself. given that the 250 will almost certainly always be out of my price range, i concentrated more on the 275's. my 2 cts on those is that the 275 gtb is a better bet than the much more sought after, and therefore expensive 275 gtb4. they made 456 of the former and 350 of the latter, so the numbers are with you there too. i have seen both models numerous times and there is virtually no external difference, and you are not going to be pushing the gtb4 for the extra .3 of a second 0-60 time or try and reach the extra 8 mph top speed, so why pay the higher price for it then? for me the 275 is THE older ferrari to put into the collection. it has all the presence of the gto and yet you can actually drive it without alerting lloyds of london every time. a friend of mine actually uses his as a daily driver ! |
ross koller (Ross)
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Username: Ross
Post Number: 38
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Friday, April 19, 2002 - 5:10 am: | |
you can buy yourself the great coffee table book 'ferrari' with photos by werner schlegelmilch, which i highly recomend. or you can go to the www.ferrari.com website and look into their archive of photos. i just did it and they have both cars plus all their technical details. |
BretM (Bretm)
Intermediate Member
Username: Bretm
Post Number: 2402
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Friday, April 19, 2002 - 12:51 am: | |
The only 250GTO I can think of in blue is an American raced one during the 60s that was privately owned and funded, I think by a rich Ferraristi that found racing too dangerous so sponsored others. The 250GTO body was done by Scaglietti based on a design by Ing. Giotto Bizzarrini when he worked in the factory racing department. It won the World Manufacturer's Championship for Ferrari in 62, 63, and 64. It also set the highest price ever paid for a car in 1989 at ten million pounds. Other than that I don't really know much. |
John A. Suarez (Futureowner)
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Username: Futureowner
Post Number: 22
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Friday, April 19, 2002 - 12:10 am: | |
Just when you think your incessant longing for ferrari knowledge could not get any greater, there always seems to be something that will peak your interest from time to time. For me it looks like I found something new(probably not at all to you guys, but it is to me!) in the 250 GTO and especially the 275 GTB/4s.
Now to the meat of the issue. I am trying to get some information on these two cars. If you can just leave a couple blurbs about each I would appreciate it. Also, if ANYONE has pics of either of these cars in a dark blue please post them!
---John |