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Mark Moon (Enzomoon)
Junior Member Username: Enzomoon
Post Number: 143 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 9:20 am: | |
The FX is a rebodied F512M. It had a sequential manual gearbox developed by Williams F1. I have a nice article on the car in one of my old issues of Forza. If anyone is interested I can try to find it and post the month/year. Regards, Mark |
Tazio Nuvolari (Nuvolari)
Junior Member Username: Nuvolari
Post Number: 250 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 9:02 am: | |
The Sultan of Brunei actually preferred all of his cars Automatic. I know this because a guy I know in England worked in Brunei for a special design team set up by Pininfarina to make cars for the Sultan. They were responsible for the 456GT Wagon and the 550 Automatic that actually used the transmission from a Mercedes. As far as the original car on this thread goes, the interior is spectacular and the exterior (although not my fav. from a total package) has some striking styling details. |
Lucas Taratus (Karmavore)
Member Username: Karmavore
Post Number: 269 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 8:27 am: | |
It looks like the radiator was movied to the front for the Sultan's car. Cool. |
James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member Username: Napolis
Post Number: 1962 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 8:06 am: | |
Dave is correct. That shot is from the Goodwood Festival of speed. Best |
Dan 360 (Dan360)
Junior Member Username: Dan360
Post Number: 76 Registered: 2-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 7:44 am: | |
Yep the second special here was built for the Sultan of Brunei and is based on a F512M, it does however have a special F1 gearbox which was a prototype of those subsequently fitted to 355 and 360s. I suspect this required writing a l-a-r-g-e check to Ferrari... |
PSk (Psk)
Member Username: Psk
Post Number: 674 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 3:45 am: | |
What is wrong with the rest of the car doing that??? I did think of that, but why does this car need one? ... and why is it directly infront of the driver? Single seaters need them because they are too low, or their nose is. Surely this cars nose is not that low? Oh well that probably is what it is ... but funny that it is directly in front of the driver. Pete |
Dave Penhale (Dapper)
Member Username: Dapper
Post Number: 726 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 2:54 am: | |
Its the timing beam cut off for Hill climbing events |
PSk (Psk)
Member Username: Psk
Post Number: 672 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 2:40 am: | |
quote:OK - what's the black bar for?
I assume you are talking about the 512M with this question. This I believe it is to help the driver judge where the nose is ... ie. when they are racing real hard up the guy's ar*e infront. It is turned this way around to ensure it does not restrict the airflow too much. Pete |
Tillman Strahan (Tillman)
Member Username: Tillman
Post Number: 763 Registered: 11-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 2:37 am: | |
Coop, I think that's the FX originally built for the Sultan off of one of the TR series. |
Jordan Witherspoon (Jordan747_400)
Intermediate Member Username: Jordan747_400
Post Number: 1488 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 2:32 am: | |
Coop, looks like a converted 512M to me. |
Coop (360)
Junior Member Username: 360
Post Number: 110 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 2:09 am: | |
WOW, me like... ...but what is this?
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Andrew-Phillip Goalen (Andrewg)
Junior Member Username: Andrewg
Post Number: 140 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 5:05 pm: | |
Des, if you really want to find out I'll e-mail you the answer! |
Chris Parr (Cmparrf40)
Member Username: Cmparrf40
Post Number: 646 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 4:40 pm: | |
WOW! I love that! |
DES (Sickspeed)
Senior Member Username: Sickspeed
Post Number: 5230 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 4:30 pm: | |
Crawford - i've been waiting all day to find out...! |
Erich Walz (Deleteall)
Member Username: Deleteall
Post Number: 446 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 4:29 pm: | |
I like it, especially the skid plate for the passenger, but...it looks a bit like a Venturi. |
Crawford White (Crawford)
Junior Member Username: Crawford
Post Number: 119 Registered: 3-2003
| Posted on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 4:08 pm: | |
OK - what's the black bar for? |
John (Ferrarifreak)
New member Username: Ferrarifreak
Post Number: 32 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 4:00 pm: | |
Wow! its nice The rear is similar has a McLaren F1..Don't you think so? Any specs? |
Jason Fraser (Jfraser)
Member Username: Jfraser
Post Number: 425 Registered: 3-2001
| Posted on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 2:42 pm: | |
Wayne, You have some very impressive enthusiasts....I recognised the car yesterday (it didn't look like this the last time I saw it) and emailed MHT. It is indeed their work, I'm going to see If I can get Bob or one of the guys from MHT to come on the site and tell us a little more about it. FYI, This event was its first public showing....I think they did a beautiful job. |
Dale W Spradling (Drtax)
Junior Member Username: Drtax
Post Number: 154 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 1:31 pm: | |
WOW, what a beautiful car! Kinda like a cross between a GT-40 and a 360. Too bad, Ferrari didn't do this for the Enzo <sigh>. |
James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member Username: Napolis
Post Number: 1951 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 11:09 am: | |
Let's see if Wayne or Gerald knows or if we've stumped the experts. Best |
Craig Williams (Craigw)
Junior Member Username: Craigw
Post Number: 157 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 11:02 am: | |
If I tell will I be spoiling the surprise ? |
Andrew-Phillip Goalen (Andrewg)
Junior Member Username: Andrewg
Post Number: 138 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 10:00 am: | |
James is there a prize for this one!!! (and I even know the answer for once!) |
James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member Username: Napolis
Post Number: 1949 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 9:58 am: | |
Wayne OK Mr. expert what's that black bar sticking out of the driving lights on 1002?
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Ben Cannon (Artherd)
Member Username: Artherd
Post Number: 528 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 3:57 am: | |
incredible, looks like a factory concept car in fit and finish. I want to be this guy Best! Ben. |
L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Moderator Username: Lwausbrooks
Post Number: 2109 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 1:41 am: | |
JRV, I wasn't objecting to the cars being modified, just stating the fact that (until now) I've yet to see one that I thought looked better than stock. James, Mr. Horne also owns 512M s/n 1002 and the influnce of the early 70s 512 cars is apparent, especially in the front end design. Compare it to this image of a 512S:
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JRV (Jrvall)
Intermediate Member Username: Jrvall
Post Number: 1888 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 4:39 pm: | |
>>I'm not a big fan of cars that have been "messed with" such as the Koenig cars, etc., << sure back when they only made afew hundred I can see your point, somewhat, but in the Mass Production Days of 308's TR's and 355's their is nothing special or sacred about dilution or the lack of maintanance many have recieved. I think they should be chopped up and used as cars instead of dry rotting in garages waiting for the Glory Days gone by of $100K 308's and $300K TR's...ain't never gonna happen. TR's are $40K-$50K for a reason. Same reason 928's are $20K... 6th hand owners with Champagne Tastes and Beer Budgets. |
James Shand (Jrs)
New member Username: Jrs
Post Number: 12 Registered: 6-2003
| Posted on Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 3:56 pm: | |
The owner did tell me that he had designed the car himself. The pics dont really do the car justice. It is beautifully made and all that saw it were convinced that it must be a F-car prototype. |
L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Moderator Username: Lwausbrooks
Post Number: 2108 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 3:52 pm: | |
I turned some very knowledgable Ferrari enthusiasts on to this thread and have learned from them that this car is owned by Robert Horne (who possibly designed the new bodywork himself) and was reworked by Bob Houghton (of Mortimer, Houghton & Turner). I'm not a big fan of cars that have been "messed with" such as the Koenig cars, etc., but I really like this one. Very impressive work! |
James Shand (Jrs)
New member Username: Jrs
Post Number: 9 Registered: 6-2003
| Posted on Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 10:31 am: | |
The Owner told me that it took 6 years to build. The guy who did all the bodywork ( aluminium )was also at the meet and said it took 18 months to make the panels by hand. He did not have jigs and used wood/clay modelling for shapes. The engine and drivtrain are from a TR. I didn't get the owners name but he seemed well known to the FOC UK organising committee. |
L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Moderator Username: Lwausbrooks
Post Number: 2107 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 9:57 am: | |
Thanks JRV, I found that other pic but does anybody have any real information on this car? |
JRV (Jrvall)
Intermediate Member Username: Jrvall
Post Number: 1882 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 9:53 am: | |
Wayne, here http://www.ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/21/280372.html?1057499714 Seriously these Custom Cars might be the wave of the future as prices lanquish in the basement of the high production number models. I know I would never consider a plain TR but this handbuilt definately caught my attention. Wrecked Porsche Turbos have been recieving "face lifts" for many many years and the market approved by raising the value of the slope noses and custom jobs. whoa Wayne, where'd ya go?..;-) |
JRV (Jrvall)
Intermediate Member Username: Jrvall
Post Number: 1881 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 9:09 am: | |
Question answered in the other thread, based on a TR. Good idea. Stock Ferraris (ie:worn out or dry rotted) will likely be losing favor in the future. |
Crawford White (Crawford)
Junior Member Username: Crawford
Post Number: 118 Registered: 3-2003
| Posted on Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 9:07 am: | |
Apparently based on a TR? |
Ernesto (T88power)
Intermediate Member Username: T88power
Post Number: 1583 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 8:58 am: | |
Looks like its based on a 360M to me. |
JRV (Jrvall)
Intermediate Member Username: Jrvall
Post Number: 1880 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 8:57 am: | |
WOW...agree that is stunning! What model is it built on? Who did the work and are they building more? |
James Shand (Jrs)
New member Username: Jrs
Post Number: 5 Registered: 6-2003
| Posted on Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 8:53 am: | |
Pics of stunning handbuilt(IMHO)
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