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Jack (Gilles27)
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Username: Gilles27

Post Number: 230
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Friday, May 03, 2002 - 9:37 pm:   

I just remember every time I'd get relaxed on the freeway, another cycle would invariably come shooting by and startle the hell out of me!
chris cummings (Entelechy)
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Username: Entelechy

Post Number: 78
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Friday, May 03, 2002 - 6:16 pm:   

Yeah, they do still do that here in L.A. and it's like flirting with disaster. I'm about as "aware" as any driver out there in terms of what's around me, checking my mirrors, etc. and those guys STILL surpise me sometimes - like they literally come out of nowhere. A few have come awful close and one actually knocked my side mirror - one of those Gold Wings! I can see why they do it - I would too if I were them, but some of them must race up at Willow Springs or something because they take some serious risks.
Richard Stephens (Dino2400)
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Username: Dino2400

Post Number: 72
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Friday, May 03, 2002 - 3:27 pm:   

Yes, motorcycles are still allowed to "lane split" on roads in California. As far as I know, it is a judgement call on the part of the CHP whether one is doing it in a safe manner or unsafe manner. I've heard them recommend that you only do it when traffic is moving at 30mph or less and that you do not exceed the speed of the cars by more than 5mph. I did it quite a bit commutting from San Francisco to the south bay area. A little hairy at times but better than sitting there in a traffic jam...
John A (Jarends)
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Username: Jarends

Post Number: 86
Registered: 7-2001
Posted on Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 2:28 pm:   

I'm glad to see I'm not crazy. When in the 328 or one of the Trans Ams, Someone will always get in my tail. Happens very little in the family cars.
If I can pull over, I'll do it (if I'm in a good mood), if not I hit the floor with the pedal and take off (love an excuse).
Most times, I'll just ignore them. After all, if they hit me, I'll retire (hopefully survive).

Jack (Gilles27)
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Username: Gilles27

Post Number: 224
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 2:25 pm:   

I remember driving in L.A. a few years ago, and they allowed the motorcycles to "white-line", or drive along the white lines between lanes. Do they still allow that? That was something I thought was a little nuts. It makes sense at a stop light, but not on the freeway.
BretM (Bretm)
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Username: Bretm

Post Number: 2545
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 2:17 pm:   

Apparently in Massachusetts on some highways you are allowed to use the shoulder from like 7-7 during the day, for full driving. It's insane IMO, what do you do if you try and take an exit, go to slow down in the exit lane, and someone comes up at 70mph. I must be missing something...
Jack (Gilles27)
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Username: Gilles27

Post Number: 219
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 1:53 pm:   

In Chicago, the shoulder is a graveyard of mufflers, tail pipes and tire treads. Wouldn't want to drive on it unless I had to make a stop!
Mitch Alsup (Mitch_alsup)
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Post Number: 32
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 11:49 am:   

Down here in Texas, they pave an entire lane beyond the edge of the driving lanes on most rural roads. Other than the occasional bridge, the berm is perfectly drivable. I am in no way pulling off the road, it is fully paved, often smoother than the actual road surface, and has a real berm at its edge. It was desgined so that drivers slowing for a driveway (or such) wouldn't cause other traffic to have to slow down--just like exiting an interstate.
Willis Huang (Willis360)
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Username: Willis360

Post Number: 671
Registered: 8-2001
Posted on Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 11:46 am:   

Shoulder driving is the quickest way to get yourself killed around here.
Mitchell L. Davidson (Jussumfastgi)
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Username: Jussumfastgi

Post Number: 19
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 11:26 am:   

Sorry but pulling off the road in my car is not an option where I live (or anywhere really)

If I can get right I will, but I will not pull off the road...
Mitch Alsup (Mitch_alsup)
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Username: Mitch_alsup

Post Number: 31
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 11:14 am:   

Down here in Texas, we have a way to get tailgaiters off your tail. You pull onto the sholder (maintaining speed) and let them drive by in the regular lane. This method is called common courtesy. When someone allows you past in this manner, it is then your responsibility to wave back at them and acknowledge their grace. I do this all the time in my F355 on the road. I have other places to rip it.
Ernie Bonilla (Ernie)
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Username: Ernie

Post Number: 288
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 10:17 am:   

If someone is on my bumper, I kindly let them by. I know how it feels to be stuck behind someone, and so do you guys, it is frustrating. Just put the turn signal on, easy over, and let them go on their way. Around town I take it easy, there is no sence in racing to the stop light. However, a couple of times early in the morning on the weekend, I zipped around the neighbor hood in 2nd gear. But I don't do that any more. Now on the freeway I like to open it up, just to hear the exuast note. Oh it sounds so good when you stand on it getting onto the freeway. Most of the time I drive with the flow of traffic, or a little bit faster. Sometimes the car in front of me will move aside, just so they can see the car go by. The only time I get nervous is if the traffic is heavy, cause I'm afraid they might plow into the back of me if I have to brake sundenly.
James H. (Jamesh)
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Username: Jamesh

Post Number: 61
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 2:46 am:   

When someone really tailgates me to where it can be dangerous or the guy is just being a A..hole, I press a button on my dash which slowly realeases tiny drops of strong paint remover out the back of my car which ruins the tailgaters paint job. ONLY KIDDING, JUST WISHFUL THINKING SOMETIMES :-)
Frederick Thomas (Fred)
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Username: Fred

Post Number: 443
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 2:24 am:   

An 18 wheeler stopping faster then my 308!?
magoo (Magoo)
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Post Number: 2680
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Wednesday, May 01, 2002 - 11:06 pm:   

Be Careful, Those 18 wheelers can stop faster than you can.
BretM (Bretm)
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Username: Bretm

Post Number: 2538
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Wednesday, May 01, 2002 - 6:24 pm:   

Mileage, what's that? If either my cars gets over 13mpg I'm doing really well.
Jack (Gilles27)
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Username: Gilles27

Post Number: 215
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Wednesday, May 01, 2002 - 5:00 pm:   

Do you guys really do that much highway driving? I can appreciate the better mileage, but I can't stand the boxed-in feeling of being behind a truck. That, and after seeing "Joy Ride", I'll give those boys their space!
Tim N (Timn88)
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Username: Timn88

Post Number: 847
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Wednesday, May 01, 2002 - 4:54 pm:   

Yeah, i see it jump on my audi's trip computer, both on average and instantaneous MPG.
John A. Suarez (Futureowner)
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Post Number: 30
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Wednesday, May 01, 2002 - 4:52 pm:   

I too have seen this when behind big rigs. I used to have a C5 vette that tells you instantaneous mpg and you could actually see the number go up ever so slightly when behind an 18-wheeler going 70-75mph. This was done while on cruise cotrol
Tim N (Timn88)
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Username: Timn88

Post Number: 846
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Wednesday, May 01, 2002 - 4:41 pm:   

I seriously draft. If im on a trip by myself and have to pay for my own gas i draft because my parents dont pay for my gas and i can think of better things a 17 year old would rather spend $ on. If im with my parents i dont really care because they pay. But seriously, when im within 10ft behind a tractor trailer i get 4 to 5mpg better than if im pushing my own air. I got ~28 in my audi over 30 miles while behind a truck as oppsed to 24 when in the open.
John A. Suarez (Futureowner)
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Post Number: 29
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Wednesday, May 01, 2002 - 4:37 pm:   

I don't tailgate, I DRAFT !!!
Jack (Gilles27)
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Username: Gilles27

Post Number: 214
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Wednesday, May 01, 2002 - 3:17 pm:   

That's the truth, James. I've always compared taxi drivers to dogs. They can sense fear, and if you don't show any, you can stop them from running you over. I've been to Lake Forest for various events, but never for service. They're kind of strange up there. They like to give off that elitist bulls**t attitude that's so important on the North Shore. For service, I'll stick to Continental out in Hinsdale.
James H. (Jamesh)
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Username: Jamesh

Post Number: 60
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Tuesday, April 30, 2002 - 10:53 pm:   

Jack, when you mention cab drivers I had to go see where you are from and sure enought, Chicago. I lived in Chicago and the cabbies there are the most aggressive drivers I have ever seen. Im from California but worked and lived in Chicago for a year and a half. One day I was crossing Rush and Walton, feeling that a pedestrian always had the right of way. Well, I made it across the street but when I got to the other side, a guy I worked with said, "What are you, crazy, your not in California, these cabbies will run you over next time"
Anyways, a work of advise, dont take your car to Lake Forrest for service.
Jack (Gilles27)
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Username: Gilles27

Post Number: 213
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Tuesday, April 30, 2002 - 8:31 pm:   

Not to dig up an oldie, but now that I've been driving my 328 around, I'm starting already to see what you mean about the behavior of other drivers. There are 2 specific things I have noticed. The first is that no matter what car it is next to me at a stoplight, they always accelerate away as fast as they can. The second is that people like to come up close behind to see what kind of car I'm driving, after which they usually drop back. The only drivers that have intentionally f**ked with me are cabbies! Not like that's odd, though.
89TCab (Jmg)
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Username: Jmg

Post Number: 206
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 4:38 pm:   

Nothing against guns, in fact, I love 'em but with my kids, I don't carry one in the car. I do, however, carry a 6 D-cell maglite for those occassions where I need to repair something late at night. The confidence the weight and 16" of flashlight gives me while under the hood is comforting.

- JMG
Jack (Gilles27)
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Username: Gilles27

Post Number: 176
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 3:42 pm:   

Nika, I think I know now why your dog looked so terrified.
Andrew (Mrrou)
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Post Number: 211
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 8:56 am:   

Craig that story almost got tears in my eyes...i can imagine you going all nice and smooth on the onramp with the van skidding around and doing onto the other road...brings tears to my eyes :-)
Nika (Racernika)
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Username: Racernika

Post Number: 492
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 8:44 am:   

Oh Manu - I'm harmless :o)

LOL Bingo - it was from a long discussion I had with a journalist about NASCAR "communicating".
TomD (Tifosi)
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Post Number: 600
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 8:23 am:   

Nika, sounds like nascar. One thing I like to do is use the rear fog light (not on the f-car) you would be amazed how many people think that is a brake light. at the same time you hit the gas. I had a trucker once think I was riding my brakes because I had the light on and he got all pissed off
Manu Sachdeva (Manu)
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Post Number: 198
Registered: 2-2002
Posted on Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 8:20 am:   

Nika - you worry me.
Nika (Racernika)
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Post Number: 491
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 8:18 am:   

To brake check you'll certainly start a road war. Let him go by - then at speed, push the rear right of his car until it starts to turn right and he tries to correct it by steering left........then STOP and watch his car SNAP back the other way and spin.....

I AM KIDDING..........DO NOT try this at home Children!!!


Craig Dewey (Craigfl)
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Post Number: 363
Registered: 1-2001
Posted on Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 6:57 am:   

The only time I was tailgated was when I had my Lotus. Some "hot" van was riding about 10 feet off my bumper. Since I was heading to the freeway, I took the onramp entrance at about 60mph (posted 25mph)-- of course no tire squeal and glued to the road. The last thing I saw was his van understeering up over the curb, onto the grass and into the oncoming exit lane.... and I continued onto the freeway.
Modified348ts (Modman)
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Post Number: 161
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 1:01 am:   

Some people tailgate close to get a close look at the car, the ones I hate the most are the ones that stop at the last moment from high speed at a stop light. I've never seen an exotic car get pulled over, and there was one time I was spotted going over 100mph in my 348 and the CHP on the bike was pulling fast behind me on the fast lane and then he pulled around my rt side and in front of me and just waved his hand in the air and went his way! I just realized I got away with a speeding ticket whew!. So far I had no encounters with wannabe racers yet with the Diablo, I think the car shows it's prowess on it's lane being so wide. It's the mentality of some people driving that makes me angry.
Willis Huang (Willis360)
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Username: Willis360

Post Number: 651
Registered: 8-2001
Posted on Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 12:02 am:   

Last week, a large pickup did that "tailgate and pull next to the Ferrari" deal on me around town. The driver punched it and sped through a couple of blocks. The guy must have been pretty smug that he got way ahead of my 360 (like I really cared). Seconds later, a cop flashed his lights and pulled over Mr. pickup as soon as he blasted through the next intersection. I got the redlight as I approached that intersection and had a bit of time to enjoy the sights. Got a good chuckle out of that.
Jack (Gilles27)
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Username: Gilles27

Post Number: 167
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 8:34 pm:   

Driving down the highway, one of those souped-up pickup trucks with god-knows-what under the hood came flying up behind us. After tailing briefly, the driver swung out and put the hammer down. I have to admit, it sounded impressive, but as soon as he pulled about 100 ft. in front, his engine blew like you usually only see on TV. Thick white smoke everywhere, I couldn't help but laugh as he limped over onto the shoulder. At least at that point I had a pretty good idea what was now under the hood!
Mark (Study)
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Post Number: 229
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 7:00 pm:   

I had a guy in a Mustang get mad at me because he thought he could fly past me and take my lane in a turn, as hi-way off ramp merged into one lane going into town. Unfortunatly I saw him coming and the 308 was on rails in the sharp turn so he had to bail-out on his pass and fall back behind me. He was so pissed... ( I guess he was use to picking on cars in a straight line race). He got right on my tail and acted like he was going to ram me. By now, I'm in the middle of town and to keep his car from wrecking my rear bumper I went around and around the same block about three times ( all right truns) the guy kept falling further and further behind in tight corners. After the fourth time around ( and it was some what funny and getting some-what scary) I saw a cop and pulled next to him to continue on my way. Mustang man limped home with steam pouring out of his ears. He was soooo pissed.

I learned not to mess with people... you never know when you're going to get that disgruntaled postal employee on his way home from a bad day at work!
arthur chambers (Art355)
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Post Number: 393
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 6:07 pm:   

When driving the 355, the only tailgaters I get are those with lights on the top of their cars. I ususally stop for them when the lights are on. The other type of tailgaters usually go away after the first corner or so. If they don't I generally slowly speed up so that they don't notice the speed until they realize that they are going too fast for their vehicle.

I wouldn't carry a weapon in the car. It's a felony in California and can carry a mandatory jail term. Not a smart idea.
Tim N (Timn88)
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Post Number: 815
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 5:53 pm:   

If someone ever tailgates me i just brake check them, it usually keeps them off. Im gonna install a new rear fog light in my car thats a lot more powerful so i can just blind them.
wm hart (Whart)
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Post Number: 235
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 5:49 pm:   

Not too many people try to pass me, cause i motor at a fairly respectable rate of speed, whether in the F car, or otherwise. If they want to pass, i will wave them by, cause they either have a very good reason, or they are crazy, in which case i don't want them anywhere near me.
F-J'87EuroTR (Ferrarijoe)
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Username: Ferrarijoe

Post Number: 125
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 5:40 pm:   

Have gun, will travel.

I have carried a weapon of some kind for 25 years and I feel it is neccessary on a long trip like I just took. But I do not carry it in the TR around home. No matter what I know or how many bad guys I've had to take care of, I think it is best to ignore the dumbasses out there on the streets and go about your bussiness. The best way Out of any potential confrontational situation is to become extreemly humble and stay alert for the quickest exit out of it.

Stay alert, stay alive and only the strongest (minded) survive.
BretM (Bretm)
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Post Number: 2464
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 5:28 pm:   

That's weird as hell. I guess all you could do is go to the police station after that. If you were in the middle of nowhere though I think exercising those horses might be the only way out.
Marcus Mayeux (Mmayeux73)
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Post Number: 78
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 5:17 pm:   

Arnoldao

That is pretty scary there! Glad nothing happened-some crazy a$$es out there. Absolutley beautiful Rossa by the way!:-)
-Take care
Arnaldo Torres (Caribe)
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Post Number: 286
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 5:07 pm:   

Andrew, LOL, I hope you are joking about the tone of red. Anyway, it is Nero Metallic. Now that you mention red, I do have some edges where there have been over buffing and the color that seems to be below the Nero has a reddish color.

I was driving on the 101 Fwy East bound to 23 Fwy North bound (Southern California). Toyota pick up truck (Tundra I believe), I forgot the tags, but I did make sure to remember them at the time.
Andrew (Mrrou)
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Post Number: 207
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 4:48 pm:   

Arnaldo i just looked at your profile and saw your testarossa..I LOVE the color..what kind of red is it? Also were you driving the testarossa when this happened?
Jack (Gilles27)
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Post Number: 158
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 4:30 pm:   

Arnaldo--that sounds like a scene out of "The Duel"! Anyway, it seems like the bigger cars have become (SUVs in particular), the more reckless drivers have become. People have the misconception that driving an enormous vehicle makes them safer, oblivious to rollover risks, increased stopping distances, etc.
Tyler (Bahiaau)
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Post Number: 239
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 3:21 pm:   

Arnaldo...I do carry a gun with me in the car. Stalkers are damn scary sometimes. The few times I have been followed I just make damn sure I get their tag number.
Arnaldo Torres (Caribe)
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Post Number: 285
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 3:13 pm:   

Have you guys gotten the feeling that most tailgaters drive trucks (the pickup type)? My last three tailgating experiences have been trucks, actually I do not remember been tailgated by anything but trucks recently.

Weird experice the other week! I had a guy follow me for over 20 minutes. I was driving fast but I do not remember cutting him off, or anybody for that matter. The first sign that something was wrong was when I moved to the right lane near an off-ramp, and he speed up around me to exit first which he did. Nevertheless, it was not my off-ramp so I continued on the Freeway. About 5 miles down the Freeway, I look back, and there he is again tailgating my car. I come to a Freeway interchange, turn my blinker to indicate my intentions, and there he goes again speeding around me to get off ahead of me. This time I follow since it was my way home. Once on the new Freeway he maintains a close distance ahead of me matching my speed and lane changing. At this point I was asking to myself, what the hell did I do to this guy? because truly, I did not remember. As I come to my exit, I move to the right lane and he stays on the left lane. Then, I make the mistake to turn my blinker on. He sees it and cuts across all lanes to exit right behind me. Now, I am approaching home, and I am not bringing this guy with me. I decide to go to the next gas station and pump some gas and find out what the hell is bugging this guy (assuming he stops). Well, I got into the gas station and the guy drives around the station and enters the parking lot of the shopping center next door and parks. At this point I had finally decided that it is time to get help. There is a Police station about a block from where I was, and I was plannig to make that my next destination. Suddenly, while I was concentrating on pumping the gas, he drives right through the gas station faster than safe, exits, and goes and parks again on the shopping center. Fully convinced of my next step, I finished pumping gas when suddenly a Sheriff patrol car drives right into the gas station. I am ready to approach the patrol car when out of the sudden, I see this guy driving off the shopping mall at high speed towards the Freeway on ramp. I was to pissed up, but decided to let it go and just go home then.

Anyway, I almost felt like getting a gun to carry with my car. Does any of you do?
Sorry for the long story, it felt right sharing this experience on this thread.
BretM (Bretm)
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Post Number: 2460
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 2:49 pm:   

Nah, just a little healthy car talk. I'm sure Richard isn't advocating speeding or pulling over to the side of the road for lunatics. And I'm not condoning busting balls of the lunatics. Don't worry about this getting out of hand, it's between two Ferrari guys, if there were some Supra guys in here it might be different story.
Marcus Mayeux (Mmayeux73)
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Post Number: 77
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 2:26 pm:   

Here we go...j/k
Martin (Miami348ts)
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Post Number: 1978
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 2:26 pm:   

10-4 Bret.
BretM (Bretm)
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Post Number: 2459
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 1:24 pm:   

I'm talking about the jeep when people are tailgating like crazy and want to go asinine speeds up here in CT. In the Fcar I would slow down and speed up only after someone would bust my balls for a couple miles on slow roads, varying from 25mph to 40mph. If you want to go faster than the 49-50mph in a 40 or the 30-33 in a 25 then go ahead and pass me illegally. I'm not going to pull over for anyone though when I am going the accepted (most common) speed on a road and they in turn want to do idiotic speeds. There is no reason for excessive speeding in 25s, 35s, etc. If you give me a hard time for being responsible I'm gonna give you a hard time for being a . That type of deal. There are no turnouts or anything in question here, it's just to me it seems common sense that I shouldn't have to cater to someone that wants to go those kill a kid, dog, type speeds.
Richard Stephens (Dino2400)
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Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 1:13 pm:   

I'm certainly not advocating stop light racing or driving 65 through a urban 45. I didn't realize you guys drive your Fcars in the city! The second post here mentioned "the right lane" so I assumed we were talking multi-lane roads here.

Bret, which is it? You aren't going to stop people from passing you, or you are going to speed up when they try to pass and then slow down again? You've said both.

In California, most single lane roads that have a solid yellow (i.e. no passing) have turnouts and the law requires people to use them. On multi-lane roads, the law requires people to be passing if they are in any lane other than the rightmost one. Thank God!
Martin (Miami348ts)
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Post Number: 1973
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 1:04 pm:   

Richard travelling as fast as everyone else is mostly the problem for those large car pile ups on the Interstate when all of a sudden fog appears...

Travelling as fast as everyone in a school zone for example is a sure killer! I can look down to our street (iona school zone) right now and a see the first guy speeding so the next and next and next is speeding as well. I am talking 30Mph where they should do 15Mph.
Martin (Miami348ts)
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Post Number: 1972
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 1:00 pm:   

Bret,
you never know. The guy behind you could have a dying child in his car and needs to go to the hospital quick. Likely he is just a fast jerk but that is not for you to judge. Let them pass if you can. Pull into the right lane.

NEVER hit the brakes on purpose. You can cause yourself and others great harm. He may hit you, then lose control and hit a car head-on ion the other side of the road killing people. Yeah, his fault but avoidable if you would not have...get my point. Be cool and let him go by.

don't worry I was thinking the same way when I was your age. With age you start to get more relaxed. :-)
BretM (Bretm)
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Post Number: 2457
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 12:51 pm:   

If you want to do absolutely stupid speeds on local roads be my guest, just don't expect me to pull over for you. You can pass me illegally if you want, I'm not gonna stop you. The other point about my comment is that if you want to do 65mph down these roads and I'm doing 60mph, is it really necessary to bust my balls and tailgate me for that speed difference?

The reason I get defensive here about looking at me as the problem here is I would challenge anyone on this site to pay more attention to what's coming about behind them and stay to the right more than I do in any case where it applies. On a single lane road it just doesn't though.
BretM (Bretm)
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Post Number: 2456
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Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 12:47 pm:   

Yeah but when it's one lane each way and I'm doing 55-60 in a 45 I don't see why I should pull over and stop. That's just stupid. I'm already speeding, they are no passing zones, the people should just relax. I'm not talking about being on the highway here, obviously there I don't care how fast you go. But I'm not gonna stop on every small road and let some lunatic go by.
BretM (Bretm)
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Post Number: 2455
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 12:45 pm:   

Whenever I'm anywhere that people will see me I drive slow, for the most part at least. There are a couple highways that I'll open it up a bit and maybe pass a few cars. The stop light grandprixs are stupid though IMO, reminds me of that 355 autocrossing except instead of knocking down some cones you kill someone.
Richard Stephens (Dino2400)
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Post Number: 64
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 12:43 pm:   

To clarify, I'm not advocating driving like a nut. But just driving at least as fast as everyone around you. Keep the flow going.

Bret, I know it's frustrating - but it is your duty to let the cars behind you pass if they want to go faster than you. It's not your job to keep people at the speed limit and the behavior you describe engaging in is very dangerous. I hope you don't do this to some redneck or gang member who will just run you off the road or take some shots at you.
Greg Rodgers (Joechristmas)
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Post Number: 251
Registered: 3-2001
Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 12:43 pm:   

I think speed limits are there for a reason. It doesn't matter how fast the car I drive is. I like to respect others and if I am gasing it to every light and cutting in and out of lanes this is dangerous. I don't understand what owning a Ferrari has to do with driving fast all of the time. I just don't see it that way. Most US roads are built for high speed either. Not have nothing to win by driving fast except for maybe impressing a few people on the road.
Marv B (Mdb69)
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Post Number: 10
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 12:42 pm:   

The problem with driving sports cars in a sporty manner is that the police like to give these little pieces of paper to you :-) Really, its much easier to go above the speed limit in a clunker that doesnt attract attention than in any sports car, especially if its a Ferrari.
Willis Huang (Willis360)
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Post Number: 650
Registered: 8-2001
Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 12:39 pm:   

I get that sometimes. Mostly they're just checking out the car. I've noticed too that people will give chase, blatanly disregarding traffic conditions, when you go by them at or near the speed limit. The worst people are those that try to prod you to do something unwise.

Best thing to do is just drive defensively in traffic and be aware of the yahoos.
Richard Stephens (Dino2400)
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Post Number: 63
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 12:36 pm:   

Perhaps they are puzzled by why you would buy a car capable of travelling high speeds and then drive the speed limit. Not to be disrespectful, but everytime I see people driving "sports" cars in an unsporty manner, often even holding up traffic, it makes me wonder why they just didn't buy a Geo Metro. I feel sorry for the sports car. It deserves to be treated better.

Remember what Raul Julia did with the rear-view mirror on his Ferrari in the Gumball Rally? Might be worth a try.
BretM (Bretm)
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Post Number: 2453
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 12:34 pm:   

Most people are naturally a$$holes nowadays. And you being in a Ferrari gives them the opportunity to let their true self come out. That is the answer to this question. I haven't had anyone really tailgate me in a long time in the Fcar, although in the Jeep in CT I've had a couple (CT people are f&*!#ing crazy, if you don't do at least 30mph over in a 45 you're holding up traffic). In the jeep I usually step on the brakes hard if the guy is being a real , not something to do in the Ferrari though. In the Ferrari I only had it happen on side roads (40mph zones), in which I would slow down to like 2nd gear and 4500rpms, when they would try to pass I would stand on it and keep them behind me, then slow down again and do it over and over and over. I can accelerate like that all day and no biggy to me.
Greg Rodgers (Joechristmas)
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Post Number: 250
Registered: 3-2001
Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 12:11 pm:   

Bob it happens to me all of the time. I have people either tailgate me the entire time or they seem to have fun trying to pass me even when I am driving around the speed limit in the right lane. I am not sure why they do it. When I drive my daily driver it doesn't happen that much.
Bob Campen (Bob308gts)
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Post Number: 149
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 12:07 pm:   

What is with people running right on your rear when you are in your Fcar. Last year it happened twice, this year at least once every time I take it out. This sure doesn't happen in my truck.

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