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todd montandon (Sllade)
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Username: Sllade

Post Number: 122
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 1:19 am:   

vince whats up brother hows the fcar runnin?Todd
Vincent (Vincent348)
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Username: Vincent348

Post Number: 849
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 12:34 am:   

Todd,

sorry we got off topic here. just bringing it back and waiting.?

V
Richard Ward (Lomotpk)
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Username: Lomotpk

Post Number: 38
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 9:36 am:   

If you are REALLY BRAVE you'll dare her to compare "annual maintenance" bills. Ferrari vs. Hair, face, shoes, etc.

But that's pulling the nuclear option, usually with few survivors...

TOM BUCKLEY (Tom_b)
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Username: Tom_b

Post Number: 21
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 8:20 am:   

My wife threatened to leave if I didn't sell the Ferrari.

I'm gonna miss her. ;)

Tom
DGS (Dgs)
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Username: Dgs

Post Number: 179
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 4:45 am:   

Todd, a 12 year old Nissan or Chevy or Ford would be in the scrap heap. Properly maintained, a Ferrari will run approximately forever.

And "Why Ferrari?" -- Because "drive" is a verb.
gary green (Minuke)
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Username: Minuke

Post Number: 27
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 10:14 pm:   

The next time you're lady complains about how much repair's cost, ask her how much she paid for those designer shoe's.
Randall (Randall)
Member
Username: Randall

Post Number: 593
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 9:23 pm:   

Man, another Ferrari bashing post comparing them to mass produced cars. Rob needs to add a spell/grammar check to this site because some of these posts are killers to read.
Bill Steele (Glassman)
Member
Username: Glassman

Post Number: 301
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 8:09 pm:   

I bought my wife a Diamond that made her eyes bug right out of her face.
A year later she bought me my second Ferrari!
James (Jim_red308)
Junior Member
Username: Jim_red308

Post Number: 61
Registered: 3-2001
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 5:27 pm:   

Gents:

Knock on wood, but other than a little corrosion problem I had about three years ago that was easily fixed with some corrosion cleaner, my 308 has and continues to run like a charm. Other than normal $120 oil changes and timing belts every five years, it has been extremely good to me, actually much more reliable as an 18 year old car than my wife's 99 Chrysler mini-van, which has been in the shop much more often! So here is at least one success story for Enzo!
Richard Ward (Lomotpk)
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Username: Lomotpk

Post Number: 34
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 4:54 pm:   

I have found that they (women) back waaaay off of the sports car issue if:

[1] You are a good man, and
[2] You work hard, and
[3] You put her (& kids) needs and happiness first, and
[4] You don't have a lot of 'wasteful' hobbies (golf, boat, etc)

If you have met all of these pre-requisites, then you can use the magic phrase that blunts all criticism: "Because it makes me happy."

After that she'll consider the car her ally in 'your happiness'.

As proof, one day after having the car flat-bedded back to the house and me being in the dumps, my beautiful wife said something I will never forget. "I don't care how much it costs to fix this car, it makes you happy and we're gonna make it right!"

God bless that woman.

Lomo t.P.K.

P.S. Of course it was only a loose fuse, but thats another story...
Dave328GTB (Hardtop)
Member
Username: Hardtop

Post Number: 637
Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 4:24 pm:   

Todd,
MY wife has said more than once "we don't need no stinkin' Ferrari".
There is no logical comeback. She is right.
My answer is always that we don't need a house over about 600 sq ft or 90% of our clothes, or the dogs, etc. etc.
I don't make excuses for it. As a car, it's a piece of crap. But I want it, I like it, and I can afford it. What other reason do I need?

Dave
Vincent (Vincent348)
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Username: Vincent348

Post Number: 831
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 1:29 am:   

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todd montandon (Sllade)
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Username: Sllade

Post Number: 105
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 11:11 pm:   

I am also very anal about my cars everything must always be perfect. and it will be she is at the upholstery shop having her seats redone and the door sill leather redone.I decuided to go with a two tone seat just to be a little different. black bolsters and original tan inserts. bad ass looking i think. T
todd montandon (Sllade)
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Username: Sllade

Post Number: 104
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 11:08 pm:   

guys i don't want to give you the impression that i am unhappy with my car i love it.what i meant was it seems to me that they are notorious for certain troubles, which if they were any other car we wouldn't put up with them but because of that little horse we do and just expect it . I think that we are in an elite few who drive these machines.i wonder if the new ones have these problems that seem to be symptomatic in these cars. I got a written letter from the mechanics that worked on my car from day one. he told me that this car was 100% mechanically sound. the things I have had problems with are the same thing everyone seems to complain about. ecu's seatbelts hot starting problems ect.don't get me wrong i love my 348 thats why i bought it and i don't regret any of it. i ahave spent most of my green on making her pretty. T
Charles Byrd (Vogel)
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Username: Vogel

Post Number: 64
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 9:28 pm:   

Because owning a Ferrari is like a romance with a woman, it's such an adrenaline rush in the beginning, and with a little(relative) work, the relationship can be fulfilling for a very long time to come. Oh, and they make other kinds of cars?????
Dr. Ken Lee (Kenster888)
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Username: Kenster888

Post Number: 147
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 9:04 pm:   

Todd, remember you're dealing with a 13 year old car. Take a deep breathe and relax a little. You'll sort out all the problems and in the end it will all be worth it. And you'll always have F-chat members to give you a pat on the back and provide you with support.

Vincent has a few good questions and I think you should try to answer them. I think the answers will provide more insights. Best of luck!
Vincent (Vincent348)
Member
Username: Vincent348

Post Number: 829
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 8:14 pm:   

Todd,

I've been following some of your troubles and I would like to know how much research you did before buying this car. 348's have strong engines and trannys and notorious quirky electrical systems, possibly even more so than some other models. You seem surprised by the problems that come with a used car.

What are the things you've had fixed so far?
What remains on your list?
Why was someone selling it?
Did you have it inspected before purchasing?

BTW. its not a nissan, chevy, or ford. It is a used Ferrari. And it is glorious. I hope you get it all "sorted". :-)

Nice color choice. Post a pic, we'd love to see it.
Dan Gordon (Ferruccio)
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Username: Ferruccio

Post Number: 22
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 8:11 pm:   

You own a ferrari because its art. Its not a cookie cutter car that was made by a bunch of robots as fast as they could make them. Your Ferrari was made with passion. You need to ask your wife why the Louvre museum in Paris pays to keep up the Mona Lisa when they can buy blank boring pieces of paper down the road for a lot less.
PSk (Psk)
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Username: Psk

Post Number: 710
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 7:51 pm:   

Why not :-), er, actually give me an Alfa Romeo T33 coupe anyday over any road Ferrari.

Pete
todd montandon (Sllade)
Junior Member
Username: Sllade

Post Number: 102
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 7:32 pm:   

steve quite funny.Todd
Noelrp (Noelrp)
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Username: Noelrp

Post Number: 280
Registered: 8-2001
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 7:24 pm:   

Todd,

Never tell your S.O. that it's broken. You are just "sorting" it out to make it better.

Good luck
Steven R. Rochlin (Enjoythemusic)
Member
Username: Enjoythemusic

Post Number: 558
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 7:22 pm:   

The below may assit you in understanding Italian sports cars. It is humor by the way... mostly humor... partly humor... at least i THINK it is humor :-)


As the owner of an Italian vehicle, you have undoubtedly found that,
from time to time, the thing defies all known laws of Physics.
Distinguished researchers from all over the world have spent entire
lives trying to understand such phenomena. Recently, the Six Laws of
Italian Sports Cars were discovered, thus reducing most owners'
dependency on sorcerers and prayer, to keep such cars running.

Careless application of these laws to any individual auto may fix the
problems of the moment, but cause hives or allergies in said owners.


1) THE LAW OF PLEASING DESIGN WHERE IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER
"The inside of cam covers or other relatively innocuous areas, shall
be laced with buttresses, cross-bracing and all manner of esoteric
stiffness-with-lightness design, while something like connecting rods
shall self-destruct at redline plus 1.0 rpm due to a basic lack of
strength." An example of this Law is the stunningly beautiful
Lamborghini or Ferrari V-12's of the late '60's. They were famous for
wearing out all four camshafts in 10,000 miles or less. The cam's
metal appeared to be recycled coat hangers, which coincidentally are
still in short supply in Italy.


2) THE LAW OF NON-FUNCTIONAL APPARATUS
"All Italian Sports Cars, regardless of age, shall have at least one
system or component which does not work, and cannot be repaired. Such
a part shall never be mentioned in the Official Shop Manual, although
there may be an out-of-focus picture shown." It goes without saying
that such parts should never under any circumstances be removed, lest
the natural balance of the car be upset.


3)THE LAW OF ELECTRICAL CHAOS
"All Italian Sports Cars shall be wired at the Factory by a
cross-eyed, color-blind worker, using whatever supplies are within
reach. All wires shall change color-code at least once between energy
source and component. all grounds shall be partially insulated." This
tends to guarantee that the owner of such vehicles will eventually be
intimately familiar with its electrical system, since he will need to
trace out each wire, then rewrite his Official Schematic, which will
differ from all others in at least one area.


4)THE LAW OF PERSONAL ABUSE
"The more an Italian auto breaks down, the more endearing it becomes
to its increasingly irrational owner." For example, you purchase an
Italian Sports car, for all the money you ever hoped to earn, and
receive a ticket for air pollution on the way home from the dealer due
to the vast clouds of smoke that follow you. Several return trips to
said dealer, accompanied by your rapidly dwindling cash reserves,
cures the smoking. But now, the engine sounds like a food processor
full of ball-bearings. After replacing every component in the car,
including the radio speakers, the noise vanishes and is replaced by an
odor reminiscent of a major fire in a goat-hair mattress factory. You
still keep trying, God help you.


5)THE LAW OF UNAVAILABLE PARTS
"All parts of an Italian sports car shall be made of a material that
is available in inverse proportion to its operating half-life." Thus,
the speedometer hold-down screws are made of grade 8 cold rolled
steel, while the valves are of fabricated Unobtanium, made only at
midnight by an old man with a pointy hat covered with moons and stars.
Such parts will be backordered during the design phase of the car, and
will remain so forever. Bribes, pleading and threats will be ignored.


6)THE LAW OF CRYPTIC INSTRUCTIONS
"Any official publications dealing with repair, maintenance or
operations of an Italian sports car, shall be written such that every
fourth word is incomprehensible to the average American. In the event
that a random sentence is understandable, its information shall be
wrong." This is also known as flat-tire English, where a sentence
flows along nicely, then-Kaboom!

Enjoy rhe Drive,

Steven R. Rochlin
sindo rodil (308qv_miami)
Junior Member
Username: 308qv_miami

Post Number: 58
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 7:09 pm:   

well maybe it's alot like being married, one problem after another, but when she's running great, nothing compares.ha.ha.
todd montandon (Sllade)
Junior Member
Username: Sllade

Post Number: 101
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 6:58 pm:   

guys i new to ferraris i have a 91 348 i really love it, but i chat with you guys alot and i have only had mine 2 weeks and i have spent a fortune on making it pretty oh yeah and fixing things. my well really its my wife question there are so many things that go wrong with these things if they were say a nissan or chevy or ford we would be outraged ie not wanting to start when hot, faulty sensor lights,ect why do we make up excuses for our ferraris ? ineed to give her an inteligent answer so far all i could come up with is its a FERRARI. Todd

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