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Jeffrey Caspar (Jcaspar1)
Junior Member
Username: Jcaspar1
Post Number: 111
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 8:37 pm: | |
The rears are stock 1999-2002 Viper size. (2003's have 345/35/19's) You can buy Sport Pilots in this size for 160$ each from PartsRack.com till the end of the month when price will go up.
Check this thread:
Not sure about the smaller fronts... |
Kevin Marcus (Rumordude)
Junior Member
Username: Rumordude
Post Number: 167
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 4:54 pm: | |
So after reading through everyone's comments, checking tire *size* availability etc. it looks like I am propably goign to end up going for the hoosier's. However, I have heard that they pop pretty easy -- ie hit a pot hole, 'big' rock, etc. Anyone have any comments on that? |
Jeffrey Caspar (Jcaspar1)
Junior Member
Username: Jcaspar1
Post Number: 110
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 4:14 pm: | |
345's should fit fine on a your 13" rears. I have 335's Pilot Sports on my 13's and the are a little too skinny. I have upsized my fronts from 275 to 285's without problem but have 10" front wheels. |
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Advanced Member
Username: Parkerfe
Post Number: 2723
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 9:41 am: | |
I have the Kumho ECSTA V700s on my M5 and love them. IMHO, they are much better than the first Pilots and then S03s they replaced. |
Brian Kennedy (Kennedy)
Member
Username: Kennedy
Post Number: 364
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 9:34 am: | |
Yes, the Hoosiers are the highest performance DOT tire. However, the two attributes that make them fastest, also make them not appropriate as street tires:
1) very soft rubber that will wear quickly in street use
2) fiberglass instead of steel belts, making them very lightweight, but not too resilient to road debris
Almost everyone on Hoosiers either trailers to the track or changes wheels at the track.
The next fastest DOT tire is the Kumho Victoracer V700. With steel belts and a harder rubber, it makes a good street tire, as long as you can avoid standing water. They are great in the damp, but will hydroplane quickly thru standing water. I used these as streets on my M3 when I was autocrossing it. But these don't come 18"!
My 360 has been on the almost-as-good Kumho ECSTA V700 which do come in 18". Kumho would argue they are better (they are the replacement for the Victoracers), but I think they missed the mark. But they are still 2nd best, except maybe...
Maybe the relatively new Michelin Pilot Sport Cup tires might be better. I've heard some positive feedback... but there is still too little experience with them.
I have a stack of BFG G-Force R-compound tires stacked in front of my 360... haven't tried them yet... but from what I've heard, they are definitely third tier.
Then you have the Toyo and Yoko R-compounds. The Toyo's are very popular as dual street/track tires. The Yokos would be too, as they are great in the wet, except they are waaayyyy too loud... big time road noise at highway speeds.
HTH |
Rob Schermerhorn (Rexrcr)
Member
Username: Rexrcr
Post Number: 739
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 6:40 am: | |
Kevin,
The Hoosier radials are DOT approved, their new radial rain tires are not.
The Hoosier is the hot tire in production classes requiring a DOT tire. I've run them quite a bit and love them. Next best tire to a proper slick. |
Chris Parr (Cmparrf40)
Member
Username: Cmparrf40
Post Number: 656
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 9:23 pm: | |
Kevin, I run the Hoosiers slicks on my F40 on the street.
Not a bad setup. just watch out for rain! |
Tim N (Timn88)
Advanced Member
Username: Timn88
Post Number: 3256
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 8:46 pm: | |
I wsa shopping for tires (normal ones) at tirerack.com and i just clicked on the competition tires out of curiousity. I remeber Michelin makes a set of pilot "cup" tires that are DOT legal competition tires. I have no idea how good they are. I dont see any 335's, only 345's.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=Pilot+Sport+Cup |
Kevin Marcus (Rumordude)
Junior Member
Username: Rumordude
Post Number: 165
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 7:08 pm: | |
I have the googyears and they are somewhere betyween crap and useless when i compare them with the pirelli d3's. I dont know why i didnt think hoosier -- but i dont think those are dot approved eh? ;)
the goodyear fiorano's are just crap. Don't give me the tire temp and pressure bs either: they suck. I dont know how else to say it. I know they are made special for the car but as one of my friends would say: "once you have driven on slicks, you can't go back". ;) The real issue is the power:traction ratio is horrible -- too much power, not enough traction.
btw, after a quick peek, i dont think the hoosier's are dot legal. they have a separate "dot street tire" which doesnt have the right size (imagine that).
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Rob Schermerhorn (Rexrcr)
Member
Username: Rexrcr
Post Number: 738
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 5:39 pm: | |
From Hoosier Grand Am Cup tires
Part number, size, tread pattern, width, dia., circ., section width, price
44573GAC 245/40-17 GA 9.2" 24.5" 77.1" 10.5" $204.00
44586GAC 335/30-18 GA 12.7" 25.6" 80.4" 13.6" $289.00 |
Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
Intermediate Member
Username: Hugh
Post Number: 1070
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 5:14 pm: | |
Matt: On a given width rim, say 7", you can safely run a 195, 205, 215, or 225 mm wide tire w/out problems. Going up by 10mm might actually help him. Not to mention the michelins are 1/2 the cost of the goodyears. Please don't take my reply the wrong way, but I think he'd be okay w/ the 345's. |
Tyson Hall (Trhall)
Junior Member
Username: Trhall
Post Number: 137
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 4:36 pm: | |
Here you go Kevin, I almost gave up.
http://www.bobwoodmantires.com/gyferrarif50.htm |
"The Don" (The_don)
Senior Member
Username: The_don
Post Number: 5945
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 3:31 pm: | |
Hubert,
Kevin has a F-50. I am fairly certain that it is a must to have the exact size.
Matt |
Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
Intermediate Member
Username: Hugh
Post Number: 1065
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 3:29 pm: | |
Kevin: the michelin pilot sports come in 345/35/18 and are available through tirerack.com, you may have to change the sizes a little to find tires that'll accomodate you. I'd call tirerack back, and see what you can get within the size requirements you've listed, and then calcualte the differenc in rolling diameter with the caluculator I included at the bottom. If you're within 10% of where you want to be, you shouldn't experience a detrimental change in TC functions, gearing, etc.
http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html
-hubert |
Kevin Marcus (Rumordude)
Junior Member
Username: Rumordude
Post Number: 164
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 3:21 pm: | |
i am having a hell of a hard time finding 245/35zr-18 and 335/30zr-18. must be dot legal tires but emphasis on cold dry road vs. wet. I've gone through tirerack, bridgestone (no s03's), tires.com (dtc) etc. anyone have any other pointers? |