Author |
Message |
Gerald L. Roush (Ferrmktltr)
Junior Member Username: Ferrmktltr
Post Number: 166 Registered: 5-2003
| Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 8:46 am: | |
The word, whether spelled "spyder" or "spider" was adopted by the Italians from other languages--I believe "spyder" came from German and "spider" came from English. As already pointed out, its origin was as a term for a particular type of horse-drawn carriage. Ferrari used "spyder" for many, many years--up through the Daytona Spyder. With the new crop of cars starting with the 348 Ferrari starting using "spider". So to determine which is correct you have to know which era you are referring to. For instance in the sales brochure for the 275 GTS Ferrari refers to it as a "spyder" while they refer to the F355 and 355 F1 as a "spider" in sales brochures. FWIW there is no "Y" in Italian! |
Andrew-Phillip Goalen (Andrewg)
Junior Member Username: Andrewg
Post Number: 179 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 11:52 am: | |
Tazio is correct, however in Italian Spider is Ragno (I think!) and Spyder is Spyder!! can anybody who's Italian (or can speak it better than me!) find out what Spyder means in a dictionary, |
Tazio Nuvolari (Nuvolari)
Member Username: Nuvolari
Post Number: 257 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 10:09 am: | |
Actually Nick the name is derrived from a particular type of horse-drawn carriage known as the 'Spider Phaeton'. This was a carriage that had a small temporary roof that could be errected if the weather turned foul; the rest of the time the carriage ran open. The name 'spider' was actually used because this type of carriage had very large wheels and the body rested quite low in relation to the axles. The term 'spider' was coined because the carriage resembled a spider because their legs are higher than their bodies. With regards to the spelling variations, the best answer I have been able to dig up is that the use of a 'y' was incorporated to make the name look a little trendier. This was told to me by a marketing / design consultant for a car company. |
Nick Berry (Nickb)
Junior Member Username: Nickb
Post Number: 118 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 9:54 am: | |
It is SPIDER. The term is derived from the look of the old topless one horse carriage with a folding hood. It was known as a cabriolet. With the top down it had an appearance of a Spider. Thus the name Spider. |
Kds (Kds)
Junior Member Username: Kds
Post Number: 67 Registered: 5-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 8:35 am: | |
How about "dripsey" |
Tyler (Bahiaau)
Member Username: Bahiaau
Post Number: 882 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 8:26 am: | |
Martin, LOL  |
Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Senior Member Username: Miami348ts
Post Number: 5182 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 8:21 am: | |
SPIYDER |
John Perry (Perryaviation)
New member Username: Perryaviation
Post Number: 28 Registered: 6-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 8:11 am: | |
Does anyone know where either term originated ? Just always been curious. |
Andrew-Phillip Goalen (Andrewg)
Junior Member Username: Andrewg
Post Number: 176 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 6:54 am: | |
oh and if you look on Barchetta it seems that even when cars where built by the same coachbuilders they often couldnt make up their minds! http://www.barchetta.cc/GT1/boano/ |
Andrew-Phillip Goalen (Andrewg)
Junior Member Username: Andrewg
Post Number: 174 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 6:47 am: | |
Just had a look on Ferrari's site, seems acording to the factory, everybody's right! both Spyder and Spider dating back to 1953 (earliest reference) |
No13 (No13)
New member Username: No13
Post Number: 19 Registered: 3-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 5:48 am: | |
Ferrari is Spider - Maserati is Spyder Always has been. It's that simple! |
Izel K. (Ferrarist)
Member Username: Ferrarist
Post Number: 278 Registered: 3-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 3:21 am: | |
Jordan is right i think. |
Brian Kennedy (Kennedy)
Member Username: Kennedy
Post Number: 363 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 1:42 am: | |
As best I can tell from the Ferrari Owners' Site, they were all "spiders". They list the 1954 250GT Spider, for example.
|
Jason W (Pristines4)
Member Username: Pristines4
Post Number: 495 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 12:31 am: | |
I looked on QV500's model guide, and seems like the Spyders where from the late 40's up to the late 60's or early 70's with the 275 GTB/4 and GTS/4. |
Jordan Witherspoon (Jordan747_400)
Intermediate Member Username: Jordan747_400
Post Number: 1550 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 12:21 am: | |
Im pretty sure everything up until the 348 was a "spyder". Starting with the 348 they have been "spiders". Not 100 percent positive though  |
Tyler (Bahiaau)
Member Username: Bahiaau
Post Number: 880 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 12:12 am: | |
I'm sure Wayne will be along shortly to provide you with the serial #s for them all. Interesting question though. I'm also curious as to when and why the change took place. |
Tyler (Bahiaau)
Member Username: Bahiaau
Post Number: 879 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 12:10 am: | |
There are many Spiders. Here is one. http://www.barchetta.cc/german/pirro/SN/0264M/166MM53.0264M.Spa98.001.htm |
Jason W (Pristines4)
Member Username: Pristines4
Post Number: 494 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 12:06 am: | |
Has there ever been a Ferrari dubbed the "Spyder" from the factory, or are they all "Spiders"? I'm thinking "spider" since all the F-cars I've seen with the decal on them have it written like that. |