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James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
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Post Number: 2078
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 12:42 pm:   

Dad's are like that I just did the same thing with my daughter. She loved it.
Justin (Justin)
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Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 12:33 pm:   

Heh, I have watched the movie...twice actually. My father sat me down when I was younger and made me watch it.

I just checked my facts about it being the 512 before posting to make sure I didn't make a goof. I've accidently confused numerically deliniated cars before. :-)

I haven't read the book though, which I've been meaning to do.
James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
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Post Number: 2075
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Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 12:27 pm:   

Justin
You too should check out the movie LeMans. 512's v 917's.
Best
Justin (Justin)
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Post Number: 13
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Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 12:18 pm:   

Again, what a car...I can't wait to see the pictures of it when it's finished!

So beautiful.

Ah yes, the 917's. Those were the cars that finally allowed Porsche to take the crown from Ferrari for a short time at the beggining of the 70's.

I looked it up to make sure I was correct and the car that Ferrari was racing at the time against the 917 was the 512. I saw one at a 360 Challenge races a couple of months ago and when it went out on track my heart was racing unctonrollably. The sound was intoxicating.

I have such respect for people who actually drive their historic race cars. There's nothing cooler than actually seeing them out on the road or on the track instead of in a museum or parked in someone's garage.


James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
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Post Number: 2071
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 7:22 am:   

Justin
http://www.ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/271551/286260.html?1058617116
Don't forget the 917's
Justin (Justin)
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Post Number: 12
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Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 2:06 am:   

Faisal,

Agreed on the 906. What a car!!! Also, check out its succesor the 910. Porsche and Ferrari had some great battles in the year the 906 and 910 came out. I believe it was the Ferrari 275LM that won out in the end.

Justin
Vincent (Vincent348)
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Post Number: 865
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Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 1:14 am:   

Faisal,

You've got mail. That color is growing on me. It would be my dad's car, if it works out. But I would be the custodian. :-) Someone has to make sure it's in driving condition for his trips back to the states.

Vicnent.
Faisal Khan (Tvrfreak)
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Post Number: 564
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Friday, July 18, 2003 - 11:43 pm:   

Vincent, you won't believe it. I saw that 355 with its first owner in Palo Alto a week after he had bought it. I had the exact same colour with a grey interior on order at the time (subsequently cancelled for my first TVR). I remember he was French, and in our short conversation at the traffic light, he revealted that Brad had sold it to him.

Now it's back at home base, looking for another custodian, and you and your dad are interested in it. Too cool. Yes, it's still there, still looking gorgeous. Do the deed--before dinner tomorrow, if you can.
Vincent (Vincent348)
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Post Number: 863
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Posted on Friday, July 18, 2003 - 11:34 pm:   

Faisal,

Is that blue 355 still there?

V
Faisal Khan (Tvrfreak)
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Post Number: 561
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Posted on Friday, July 18, 2003 - 11:30 pm:   

That 906...don't know about you folks, but it got my heart pounding. After filling a web folder with everything I can find out, I am going to the bookstore to soak up everything I can about it. Very nice looking car.

James, fear not, all is not lost. I drive night and day searching for glory...! Also, I was at Ferrari of San Fran today and saw a very nice model of a white P3 on the manager's desk, in a glass case. It was about a foot long, so it's a large scale. Looked really good.
Vincent (Vincent348)
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Post Number: 856
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Posted on Friday, July 18, 2003 - 11:14 pm:   

james,

Very Nice!

Vincent.
Justin (Justin)
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Post Number: 11
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Posted on Friday, July 18, 2003 - 11:08 pm:   

Wow James, is that your car?!?!

Gorgeous! Absolutely gorgeous.........
Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
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Post Number: 1635
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Friday, July 18, 2003 - 10:53 pm:   

AAAACK!!

James,

Someone stole one of your headlight assemblies! Hunt whoever it was down and hang him/her by their toes!

How did the P4 achieve such high speeds in Le Mans with such tiny wheels? Weird suspension setup too... :-)

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Cheers
James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
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Post Number: 2068
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Friday, July 18, 2003 - 10:49 pm:   

Jennifer
It's about the making of the movie LeMans, obsession, and the days when cars like this drove through the night in search of glory...
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Jennifer Howell (360girlygirl)
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Post Number: 11
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Friday, July 18, 2003 - 3:28 pm:   

James, I will watch that movie just for grims and giggles. I don't necessarily have anything against Porsche its just that I REALLY love Ferrari's. I also love to read so when I finish the book I'm reading now I will read that one. What type of book it is anyway?
Justin (Justin)
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Post Number: 10
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Posted on Friday, July 18, 2003 - 1:28 pm:   

James,

Great suggestion for Jennifer! Anyone who doesn't have respect for Porsche needs to at least experience the movie "Le Mans" and read the book that goes with it to perhaps gain a new perspective.

DES,

Those photo's.......yummmmmmm.... :-)
DES (Sickspeed)
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Post Number: 5412
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Friday, July 18, 2003 - 1:15 pm:   

Courtesy of the human archive, Mr. Awesomebrooks, a 904, 906 and a 908... Mmmmm... :-)

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James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
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Posted on Friday, July 18, 2003 - 12:11 pm:   

Jennifer
Grab someone you care about and watch the movie "LeMans".
Then read "A French Kiss With Death"
You may change your mind about P cars.
Best
Jim
DES (Sickspeed)
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Posted on Friday, July 18, 2003 - 12:06 pm:   

How about a 904 or a 908 - gooooooorgeous...! :-)
thomas daniels (Castex)
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Posted on Friday, July 18, 2003 - 12:02 pm:   

914?
JT (Mightymagician)
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Post Number: 125
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Friday, July 18, 2003 - 11:36 am:   

or 959 or Carrera GT?
DES (Sickspeed)
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Post Number: 5409
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Friday, July 18, 2003 - 11:32 am:   


quote:

I don't find anything appealing about Porsche.




:-(
Not even a 962...? A Dauer 962 LM...? A 962 CR1...?
Jennifer Howell (360girlygirl)
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Post Number: 10
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Posted on Friday, July 18, 2003 - 11:28 am:   

Justin, I think you may have misunderstood me or maybe I said it the wrong way but I don't like Porsche. When I said that Porsche has no comparison to Ferraris. I meant that Ferrari are far better than Porsche. I don't find anything appealing about Porsche. Ferrari, however, is very appealing, especially the 360. That is my dream car. I also like the 308's and 328's. But just set the record straight. I LOVE FERRARI'S.... Not Porsche.
Vincent (Vincent348)
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Post Number: 853
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Friday, July 18, 2003 - 2:09 am:   

Justin,

Welcome to F-chat. I think you'll find that Ferraris are a passion for most of us, and thus some of their quirks are overlooked. Personally, I think that the plusses far outweigh any minuses. The car does not disappoint.

This is a great place for sports car enthusiast, enjoy!

Vincent.
Justin (Justin)
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Posted on Friday, July 18, 2003 - 2:07 am:   

Faisal,

Well, I didn't want to get into that one... anytime I've mentioned that I thought Porsche's had good fit and finish I've been attacked! :-)

But I do agree, Ferrari's look much better. They are some of the most beautiful, if not THE most beautiful cars in the world. The 360 spider...is there a more beautiful modern convertible at any price-point? And of course there are all the old Ferrari's - that list is too long to even bother with.
Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
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Post Number: 1600
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Friday, July 18, 2003 - 2:02 am:   

Good response Justin.

When I went to purchase my Turbo I had a lot of cars that I could have picked (Ferraris inclusive). The Turbo was the right choice, albeit a rather impulse decision. Then again, I don't plan on sticking to a single marque the whole time. You are right in that they are very good at what they do. Want to see a kick ass Porsche? Check out Bill Hart's GT2. Run a search and you should be able to find pics. I'm patiently waiting and watching from afar to see what kind of mods he does to it...:-)

Also, I'm into the classics. Modern Ferraris don't do it for me, although I might change my mind if I have one for a while (might just have to arrange that on my next trip to Asia). Price notwithstanding, gimme a carb'ed Euro 308 or Terry Springer's (Plexi) Daytona over any modern Ferrari, anyday. And don't get me started on Lamborghini 350s and P400s or Ferrari uberclassics like the Monzas and TRs (the Ferraris that matter, in my humble opinion)!

It might be tough to believe this, especially if you are an admirer of Ferraris...but to some the best is not Ferrari. They just have a deep appreciation of the marque. This is, of course, not even dipping into the facts around Ferrari vs. Porsche and keeping in mind people's varying preferences and criterea for such a ranking.

Cheers
Faisal Khan (Tvrfreak)
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Post Number: 544
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Posted on Friday, July 18, 2003 - 1:49 am:   

Justin,
I don't think Ferraris have superior fit and finish to Porsches. Ferraris do look a hell of a lot better, though, IMO.
Justin (Justin)
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Post Number: 7
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Friday, July 18, 2003 - 1:38 am:   

"Porsche's have no comparison's to Ferrari's" ?

"I don't get how anyone can look at a Porsche then look at a Ferrari and say, 'man I like the looks of the Porsche better!'"

Wow, I must be on a Ferrari board or something?! :-)

Well, I'd have to respectfully disagree with both of you, despite this being a Ferrari board.

Believe me, I LOVE Ferrari's, I love the beauty, the style, the sex-appeal, the history, etc.

However, I am a huge fan of Porsche. Are they as glamerous as Ferrari's? No. Do they have as stylish and as quality a fit and finish as Ferrari's? No. However, I personally find many Porsche's extremely eye-catching....The GT2, GT3, Turbo....

Why do I love Porsche's though? Because aside from the fact that I personally find them very agressively good looking, most importantly of all, the do what they are designed to do extremely well, and that is to be driver's cars.

Porsche to me represents the ultimate driver's car and as I love to drive, whether it be on twisty mountain roads, on track, etc. I feel a real draw to Porsche's.

Honestly, I never get into the "which car is better" debate between Porsche and Ferrari because I see the cars as totally different with different plusses and minuses and I greatly appreciate both cars for what they are. Ideally, I'd like one or a couple of each in my garage ;)

And just so you know, Jerry and Jennifer, I don't say this simply because I don't own a Ferrari, I've met many Ferrari owners who also own Porsche's who have said that while they unquestionably believe their Ferrari is sexier, more beautiful, more glamerous etc. (and I agree)that at the end of the day they have the most fun driving their GT3 ;)

Jennifer Howell (360girlygirl)
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Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 5:50 pm:   

Porsche's have no comparison to Ferrari's. Justin, don't feel bad I don't have a Ferrari either. I am ashamed to say that I was never really into any cars until a friend of my (who is truely a Ferrari fanantic) wouldn't shut up about Ferrari's. Since then I have been to a few shows and gatherings with him and have truly enjoyed myself more than I thought I would and have met some really nice people. Well, welcome to FChat. :-)
Jerry W. (Tork1966)
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Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 5:32 pm:   

I don't get how anyone can look at a Porsche then look at a Ferrari and say, "man I like the looks of the Porsche better!"
Brian Keegan (4redude)
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Post Number: 129
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 3:11 pm:   

Justin, go to Flood Park in Menlo Park on Sunday anytime after 11AM. FCA picnic. You are bound to see some Ferrari's there!
Flood Park 215 Bay Road Menlo Park 94025
Check my profile to see what I'll be driving (non F car).
Dan (Bobafett)
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Post Number: 1019
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 2:35 am:   

Hmm...who will they believe? Let's see here.

--Dan
Justin (Justin)
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Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 12:42 am:   

You, you, you cannot speak to me! You didn't tell me about the car until YESTERDAY! Then you don't invite me to the dinner on Saturday!

Anti-ferrari?! Never...perhaps just a little more Porsche crazy, but I still love Ferrari's! :-)

Oh, and anything Dan says about me is a lie. He's the infidel. Just yesterday he was saying that he wanted to take all the badges off his new car and replace them with a raging bull. Talk about anti-ferrari.....


Dan (Bobafett)
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Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 9:31 pm:   

HEY! DO NOT LET THIS JOKER IN! HE'S VERY ANTI-FERRARI! HE WILL BE WORSE THAN ALLAN!

Damn you, you infidel!

--Dan
Justin Moore (Justin)
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Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 4:45 pm:   

But of course. Never missed one in 4 years. Even dragged my girlfriend to last years in the pouring rain and mud. She really liked that!

Hey, it wasn't my fault...it wasn't raining when we left in the morning.....
Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
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Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 4:41 pm:   

Justin,

Welcome from another fellow Ferrariless Bay Area resident.

Speaking of ALMS are you going to be attending the races coming up?

Cheers
dave handa (Davehanda)
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Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 4:35 pm:   

Hello Justin,
And welcome. There are a great bunch of enthusiasts here, jump in, join the conversation and have fun!
Jordan Witherspoon (Jordan747_400)
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Post Number: 1554
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 4:33 pm:   

Welcome to the boards! There are lots of people from SF area who seem to get out and drive pretty often so hopefully you can hook up with them.

I dont own a Ferrari yet but I will some day! The people at this site have been more than polite twoards me and I have to say that these truly are some of the nicest people I have ever met.

I think youll enjoy the site!
Justin Moore (Justin)
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Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 4:30 pm:   

I've had an account for some time now, but never posted and I figured it was time to say hello to everyone.

Hopefully you'll allow a non-ferrari owner to hang-around occasionally on the message board :-)

Err....did I mention that on top of not owning a Ferrari, I also support McLaren and not that team in red from Scuderia?

Having said that, I do love Ferrari's and have spent a good many hours gawking at them as well as limited time behind the wheel...amazing cars with incredible performance and an addictive engine note, not to mention tremendous history and beautiful interior and exterior styling.

To the Bay Area people, I live in Los Altos. I'm sure I have actually seen some of you at the car corrals at Sears Point for the Ferrari Challenge Races or ALMS. I look forward to actually meeting some of you at some point.

Perhaps if I'm lucky I'll be permitted to attend one of your gatherings? ;)

Anyways, I just wanted to say hello to everyone.

Justin

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