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Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Senior Member
Username: Miami348ts
Post Number: 5292
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 10:45 am: | |
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DES (Sickspeed)
Senior Member
Username: Sickspeed
Post Number: 5426
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 10:38 am: | |
Yes, i got a few shots of that one, as well... The Lamborghini looked great, i just wished it was a little closer to the rope; the orange Murcielago downstairs was pretty nice, too... My 3 favorites were the Enzo (of course), the Infineon and the Bentley... |
James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member
Username: Napolis
Post Number: 2106
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 10:32 am: | |
Des
Yup that where the Yellow Gallardo was as well. Didn't you snap that one as well? I think Andrew who was at the party with me also got a shot of the Gallardo.
Best |
DES (Sickspeed)
Senior Member
Username: Sickspeed
Post Number: 5425
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 10:26 am: | |
Mr. G. - LOL...!
Are you referring to the green Bentley racecar...? Definitely a sight to behold... My shots of that car came out almost completely black; i should've adjusted my camera to the lighting... Awesome to see it in the flesh, though... That and the Infineon R8... Damn, i love racecars... |
Willis Huang (Willis360)
Intermediate Member
Username: Willis360
Post Number: 1400
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 10:18 am: | |
The front 3/4 view of the Gallardo looks good in that new edgey way. The back view is rather busy but unique. I don't understand the need for side body stickers though. When it comes down to Lambos, I rather have a Countach QV or a Diablo SE30 Jota. |
TomD (Tifosi)
Advanced Member
Username: Tifosi
Post Number: 4222
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 10:13 am: | |
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"If you look past the shot of her holding her hands in front of her chest you'll see the display"
LOL
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James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member
Username: Napolis
Post Number: 2103
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 9:51 am: | |
Eli
Ferrari had a dinner at the NY show on the evening before the show opened where they had a group of historic race cars as well as an Enzo and a Stradale. As you walked into the party on the first floor above the escalators a dealer, I believe Manhatten Motor Cars had an exibit with a Murcie, a Gallardo, A Panoz, and the Bentley race car the Speed 8. The Gallardo and the Mercie were yellow. Des got some shots. There was also a yellow Saleen. I thinks there's a shot of it on "The Birds" web page. If you look past the shot of her holding her hands in front of her chest you'll see the display. This display wasn't inside the show. I think Rob Ferreiti may have been involved with it. The Bentley was for me the highlight of the show. Ferrari hosts this party every year and it's well worth attending. You can walk through the whole show with a few friends almost by yourself. I highly reccomend it.
Best |
ELI (Titanium360)
Member
Username: Titanium360
Post Number: 511
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 7:33 am: | |
James, i was at the auto show in NY as well and the only car i saw at the Lambo stand was a Murcie. |
eli (ali) Latif (Ninja_eli)
Junior Member
Username: Ninja_eli
Post Number: 54
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 4:14 am: | |
Faisal, I prefer to get the car from Lambo UK themselves, if for only the warranty. I've found another one at another dealer, similar price range, doesn't have the warranty though  . In Orange again, with better interior. I think the pic you had there is of a pre 6.0 model? I prefer the 6 litre Diablo, seems much better made, not far off the Murcielago.
Taek,
By the way, when I said the 4WD hinders, I meant on the Murcielago. Too much grip and weight for the little clutch to handle, so bye bye clutch if you try a standing start. No doubt there would be a benefit for the Murcielago at rolling speeds. That said, the X50 is the smaller more manageable car, its narrower so overtaking on country roads would be less heart in your pants!!
Oh, and I also do as you do Taek, just guess what everyone is saying, hate using the scroll bars! |
L. (Testaroja)
Junior Member
Username: Testaroja
Post Number: 62
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 4:19 pm: | |
Lamborghini, Ferrari, and Porsche are the only cars that matter in the exotic sports car issue, but no one can deny that porsche gives a lot more of everything for less money, the cars may not have the exotic lines but the top of the line porsche is a ferrari and lamborghini butt kicker.
By the way its so stupid every time someone says "I would choose a murcielago over a gallardo" or "I would take a mclaren f1 over your 360", dont compare apple with oranges, remember to keep it around the same $$$ range. |
Faisal Khan (Tvrfreak)
Member
Username: Tvrfreak
Post Number: 641
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 3:17 pm: | |
Hey, I love those cartoons!!!!
When I was a kid, I really wondered why people did not step away from the box/crashing plane/whatever at the very last second. I thought you could let it smash itself to smithereens while you delicately hopped off when it was two feet above ground level. Of course, your timing would have to be exquisite, but I was sure I could manage it! |
ELI (Titanium360)
Member
Username: Titanium360
Post Number: 504
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 3:14 pm: | |
I am sorry for the back of the Gallardo is UGLY! |
Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Intermediate Member
Username: Stickanddice
Post Number: 1708
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 3:10 pm: | |
Faisal,
I was actually picturing a cartoon where they push off the anvil first and Wile E. Coyote follows suit. Just color commentary. Point is, the Murcielago is FAAAAST.
Cheers |
Faisal Khan (Tvrfreak)
Member
Username: Tvrfreak
Post Number: 638
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 3:00 pm: | |
Taek,
you'd accelerate the same, with or without an anvil. 9.8 metres per second squared. |
Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Intermediate Member
Username: Stickanddice
Post Number: 1705
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 2:53 pm: | |
I thought you'd catch that. 
I too have driven both. The Murcielago pulls like you would not believe. Feels like someone shoved you off an airplane with an anvil tied around your neck.
It has a healthy kick in the ass. The hardest part of accelerating in a Murcielago is traction. Brutal.
Also, roll on speed...forget it. Goodbye Porsche. People tend to forget the acceleration speeds that matter. 40-80mph, etc.
Cheers |
allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Member
Username: Allanlambo
Post Number: 874
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 2:46 pm: | |
Taek, you look at the slowest road test out there. How about Motor Trend which achieved 0-100 in 8.3 seconds? Ive driven both, the Murcielago is faster. Ive beaten X-50's in my Diablo several times, they have a great launch, but from a roll, 5mph on, easy kill. |
Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Intermediate Member
Username: Stickanddice
Post Number: 1695
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 1:41 pm: | |
Amen Jack!
<--- Too lazy to move the slide bar so I quasi extrapolate
the words and try to figure out what people are saying that way.
How about that! Nice and neat for you too!
Cheers |
Lucas Taratus (Karmavore)
Member
Username: Karmavore
Post Number: 290
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 1:38 pm: | |
Not to beat a dead horse, but IMO:
360/Eclipse = Gal'/Celica
Luke.
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Jack (Gilles27)
Intermediate Member
Username: Gilles27
Post Number: 1175
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 1:29 pm: | |
I think we need to deduct points here for posting pictures outside the margins! God how I hate to use the slide bar... |
KCCK (Kenneth)
Member
Username: Kenneth
Post Number: 474
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 1:20 pm: | |
Interesting. |
Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Intermediate Member
Username: Stickanddice
Post Number: 1692
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 1:15 pm: | |
Allan,
According to Road and Track, the Murcielago did the 0-100 sprint in 9.1 seconds. The Turbo did it in 8.8. The Murcielago did 0-100-0 in 14.2. The Turbo achieved it in 13.5.
I love the Murcielago, but I'm afraid that in higher speeds the Turbo edges out the Murcielago.
Eli,
The Murcielago does pull a lot stronger than the Turbo throughout the gear. It's a more even power delivery. Also, the Turbo also puts power on all 4 wheels. This actually helps in the launch, not hurt it.
Cheers |
Faisal Khan (Tvrfreak)
Member
Username: Tvrfreak
Post Number: 626
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 1:14 pm: | |
I have two very reputable Lambo dealers in and around London for you, if you are interested. One of them had a beautiful orange Lambo last summer. Dunno if it's still there.
http://tvrfreak.com/Albums/Trips/2002%2008%2004%20England%20Eddie%27s%20Cerbera%2C%20Modena%20Motors/DSC03525.JPG |
eli (ali) Latif (Ninja_eli)
Junior Member
Username: Ninja_eli
Post Number: 53
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 1:05 pm: | |
Quote: "Murcielago cant keep pace with an X-50 in a straightline? lol"
Yep. You read that right mate. Err, there are plenty of documented events that prove this, together with seeing such a thing. Even on a straight race track, the X50 achieved the higher top speed. Lambo couldn't keep up. I think the real world BHP/tonne is better on the Porsche(remember half a tonne lighter than Murci), plus the 4WD of the Murcielago hinders the start. Murci might pull back after 160 or so, but will need a long track (or road) to line up again, let alone overtake. Don't go telling me the Murci pulls sub 9 seconds 0-100mph?
BTW, I want to get the Murci, after I get the Diablo 6.0 (don't like any of the earlier ones, but would have liked 2WD). Unfortunately Lambo dealer has sold the Orange one I was going to buy, just the day before I went in to sort out a deal boo hoo!... (Guys, don't take the piss the Orange actually looks good in the flesh!!).
Can't lie to ourselves though can we? I don't care that the X50 is quicker, but it is, no matter how you or I feel about it.
I think its fair to say the X50 is the best performance car overall. Ignore the fact that the styling etc. might not be to your taste or that it doesn't feel "special". What it does on the road, and the fact that it does it day in day out without a fuss makes it a remarkable vehicle. |
allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Member
Username: Allanlambo
Post Number: 872
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 12:13 pm: | |
Murcielago cant keep pace with an X-50 in a straightline? lol |
Mitch Alsup (Mitch_alsup)
Member
Username: Mitch_alsup
Post Number: 885
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 10:30 am: | |
"I like the wheels. I dont like any of the Ferrari wheels"
Feel free to leave.............. |
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