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Jerry W. (Tork1966)
Member Username: Tork1966
Post Number: 833 Registered: 7-2001
| Posted on Saturday, July 26, 2003 - 9:55 am: | |
My god.....this dude is frickin' mental!!! |
Peter Polasek (Peterp)
Junior Member Username: Peterp
Post Number: 115 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Saturday, July 26, 2003 - 9:14 am: | |
> because i watch many of you complain of 10 million problems in your cars, > than 5 minutes later Ferrari is the best car in the world. You are missing the point that this is a forum where people exchange information to solve problems, so the only posts you see are going to describe problems. We could have daily posts from everyone along the lines of "My Ferrari drove great again today...", which is what 99.9% of the people would say if asked, but that would become boring after, say, the first post. You should not judge Ferrari's reliability on issues you have had with one specific model (that has known problems) any more than we should judge Lambos based upon tractor history, or Countach history for that matter. I'm not against Lambos and don't really get the Lambo bashing that sometimes happens. I would have guessed Lambos were far less reliable than Ferraris, but your feedback convinced me (a long time ago through the many redundant posts) that this isn't the case. This is valuable insight, but the point has been made. So Lambos are reliable -- great news -- but this doesn't mean Ferraris are less reliable even if yours happens to be. The other missed point is that most people don't buy an exotic based upon how little maintenance they think they can get away with -- it's about driving and enjoying the car. Anybody buying an exotic car knows that maintenance is going to me more difficult than it is with a Suburu. Less maintenance is better -- the belt issue is an annoyance but it just isn't a factor (for most) in choosing a car and, again, the belt point has been made many times over. Of course, a consistantly unreliable car can ruin the driving pleasure, but there are lemons in individual models and vehicles for both Ferrari and Lambo. |
Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Senior Member Username: Miami348ts
Post Number: 5262 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 1:07 pm: | |
Maybe I should buy Eli's too  |
eli (ali) Latif (Ninja_eli)
Junior Member Username: Ninja_eli
Post Number: 52 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 1:05 pm: | |
Allen, your cars fecked mate! Sell it. The manifold thing is a curse that will affect every 355 owner. Ferrari are such arseholes, and should have solved this. Totally disappointed with Ferrari's attitude which is why I am buying a Lamborghini... A usually rattle is from the hooks that lock the roof, check that first. |
Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Senior Member Username: Miami348ts
Post Number: 5260 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 1:04 pm: | |
And the waight reduction may get you a 0.1 better on the drag stip ! |
Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Senior Member Username: Miami348ts
Post Number: 5259 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 1:03 pm: | |
LOL Tom! Allan, I just though you sounded so unhappy with the car that you may want to just dump it into my lap! Now that we know I offer you just as much as you paid I don't have to feel bad making my offer. Bring your Diablo over and I take my angle grinder and cut your roof off so your wife can drive open. I would even pay for the shipping just to be able to do that!  |
TomD (Tifosi)
Advanced Member Username: Tifosi
Post Number: 4214 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 12:49 pm: | |
he won't be a collector long buying high and selling low and not driving in between |
Tom Bakowsky (Tbakowsky)
Member Username: Tbakowsky
Post Number: 487 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 12:42 pm: | |
Allen.. I would say that somthing is wrong with the cooling system. Under no conditions when the systems is operating correcrtly should the temp get that high. You do not want to overheat that engine!! Get it checked out. It is not normal. 355 spiders do have a ton of rattles. They are easy to fix if you spend the time to fined them. Most of them are door hardware related. The exhaust manifolds just plain suck. Crappy material from the get-go. The leather problem is another annoyance. The slow down lights are the result again of crappy electronics. They worked a ton better in the earlier cars when it was just a piece of ceramic heat sink. Don't know why they went electronic. Timing belts are a cheap way to run cams. Don't have to mess with extra oiling, tensioners,guides etc. And they make less noise. They also save wieght and there is less parasitic load on the engine, so it can rev to 8500rpm without worrying about chain slap or a guide comming apart or a tensioner. Try adjusting your shift linkage. In my experiance a Ferrari shifts better than a Lambo. Maybe your just noticeing this because you can't get your car out of 2nd gear around town. Of course it's going to shift better if your only going from 1st to 2nd all the time. Try shifting into 3rd or 4th or even down shift. Lambos have always had clunky shifters. |
jm2 (Yello355)
New member Username: Yello355
Post Number: 24 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 12:40 pm: | |
Allan , i too have not encountered any of the problems you refer to.My temp gauge stays normal in the most brutal Michigan humidity, and i have had absolutely no problems w/my 6 speed. |
allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Member Username: Allanlambo
Post Number: 871 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 12:09 pm: | |
Martin, why sell you the car for what i paid for it? Haha, now everyones car is super reliable! You guys crack me up. Im not having problems with my car at all, all this is normal. This car was not a rental, but a one owner car, owned by a collecter. I would get rid of it, but my wife wants a convertible, and theres nothing else to buy. So we're kind of stuck, until the Gallardo Cnvertible comes to town. Just remember, my 1992 Diablo was 10X the car of the 355. |
Ricky Nardis (Rickyn_f355)
Member Username: Rickyn_f355
Post Number: 420 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 11:18 am: | |
how much did alan pay for the car? agree 100% with martin... and my 95 355 has no cats and havent had any problems in the first 12 months of ownership... |
Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Senior Member Username: Miami348ts
Post Number: 5256 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 11:13 am: | |
Allan, I will take it off your hands. Since you think the prices of the F355 Spiders are so low I will give you $ 80K for your low Miles Spider! The reason you are having problems is that you and others are obsessed with low miles instead of quality. The reason why you got your car so cheap is probably that the seller knew of these problems. Fans not blowing? Cooling system clogged because fluids have not been changed in 7 years? Waterpump failing (yep its 7 years old and has done nothing for yeares but sitting in old water corroding instead of being used) And here is my argument again to buy cars that have reasonable Miles! |
TomD (Tifosi)
Advanced Member Username: Tifosi
Post Number: 4205 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 11:13 am: | |
how can you complain about warning lights when you have modified the car in violation of Federal law??? Also, have you had both cars from new? if not is it possible one had a previous life as a rental car for some exotic rental co?? |
Mark Moon (Enzomoon)
Junior Member Username: Enzomoon
Post Number: 186 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 11:11 am: | |
What is it with this guy? Another loaded, pretty much worthless thread posted to elicit the responses he knows will come his way. As I said before Allan, you need professional help. |
Mitch Alsup (Mitch_alsup)
Member Username: Mitch_alsup
Post Number: 889 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 11:02 am: | |
"i own a horrendous piece of crap wannabe Lamborghini with no race heritage" Just remember, you said it! "and i own, what is considered by some one of the greatest Ferraris, the 355, with its F1 race inspired 8500rpm motor." Hooray! "But my super F1 inspired Ferrari temp gauge bounces all over the place, and when it gets in traffic, will nicely settle itself slightly below the 260 red mark?" Sounds like it has not been properly bled. Mine never goes above 210 in 110 Texas heat waiting in (ahem) traffic. "Why in my piece of crap Lambo, does it shift smooth as butter, while my super Ferrari is balky and reluctant?" My F355 shifts smooth as butter! perhaps it is technique? "Why does my piece of crap lambo, with many more miles have absolutely no squeeks or rattles, and yet in my Super Ferrari, it sounds like you just lost a piece of the car going over a bump?" Mine makes narry a noise except for the sounds from the engine bay. Perhaps you should try driving it on a paved road! "Why is the dashpod leather shrinking on a 7,000 mile garage kept one owner Ferrari, when on my tractor its in perfect shape?" Ever heard of leather conditioner? "Why does my Ferrari need belt replacement every 15,000 miles, when my Tractor does not?" I don't know! |
Ze Shark (Ze_shark)
New member Username: Ze_shark
Post Number: 6 Registered: 7-2003
| Posted on Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 1:55 am: | |
Hi Allan, Breaking the chorus of blinded enthusiasts, I cannot comment on Lambos since I've never driven one (might soon change with the Gallardo), but I certainly subscribe to the opinion that Ferrari's quality is below what one could expect from cars that price. My 355 does not suffer the heating problems you refer to, but it's true leather is very fragile and overall build quality is questionable. I've not seen a single used 550 which does not have the driver seat back rest left cushion worn out either. Timing belt replacements are spec'd every 25'000 miles, that's too frequent, but not uncommon for timing belts. Ferrari will only improve quality under the pressure of competition and customers, so let us be honest with ourselves and acknowledge where our beloved cars display unacceptable shortcomings. Perpetuating the old & childish rivalry between the tractor builder and the car builder is pointless in my opinion. If you like your Lambo better, good for you that you have one, and you should sell your 355 right away. To your last question: when do you think that the 355 was designed ? Launched in 1995, the car was probably designed in 3 years from 1992. Not exactly a time where Ferrari was performing as a company. Not an excuse, but I think that, if the discipline which lead to F1 success is to reflect on street cars, we will see that with the 460, and 550 & 360 replacements. Till then, I wish you fun on the road. |
BJ (Bjkim)
Junior Member Username: Bjkim
Post Number: 130 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 12:49 am: | |
Allan, sell the car and get another crap POS Lambo or something. If you don't like the car, why do you bother to keep it?
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Mr. Doody (Doody)
Intermediate Member Username: Doody
Post Number: 1440 Registered: 11-2001
| Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 9:50 pm: | |
the 550 temp doesn't really bother me. it's a gt cruiser, so i "gt cruise" in it :-). i don't really take either car into boston very often 'cuz of all the nasty construction. the 550 has never overheated on me - it came close once when my oil was low (mea culpa), but otherwise the temp is just all over the map - but that's normal - it's not broken. i can't imagine trying to run high-performance engines in AZ. egads. i don't care who manufactures them - it's a freakin' desert! i remember my first trip to AZ. Tucson in late July. i got out of my car, popped the trunk, was getting my suitcase out and a wind whipped up. i SWORE that some joker must have turned on the world's biggest hairdryer! just mind-bogglingly hot. but at least it was dry ;-) my cars are both bone stock. doody. |
allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Member Username: Allanlambo
Post Number: 855 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 9:43 pm: | |
So to turn things around, if your 550 is disinterested in stop and go traffic, that is ok with you? Doesnt bother you? It would bother me. How do you think it would run in traffic in 115 degrees here? |
allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Member Username: Allanlambo
Post Number: 854 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 9:41 pm: | |
Well, like i said, im sure your not driving in Az, and ive read many complaints from others on these issues. Ive spoken to Scottsdale Ferrari, that said it was completely normal, they went as far as to have advisor drive the car and said it shifted perfectly. Also do you have cats on your car? I took mine off. |
Mr. Doody (Doody)
Intermediate Member Username: Doody
Post Number: 1439 Registered: 11-2001
| Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 9:31 pm: | |
MA. no temp problems. the 550 on the other hand is rather disinterested in stop-and-go traffic for sure... doody. |
allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Member Username: Allanlambo
Post Number: 852 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 9:27 pm: | |
Mine is also a 6 speed. Where do you live and how about the temp gauge? |
Mr. Doody (Doody)
Intermediate Member Username: Doody
Post Number: 1436 Registered: 11-2001
| Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 7:44 pm: | |
my 355 shifts nearly as smoothly as my 996TT and E39 M5 did. i've actually been told that my gearbox is anomalous, and that most 355s do not shift as well as mine. however, that's why i bought the 355 i bought (it sounds better than most, pulls better than most, shifts better than most, etc. etc.). the problem with handbuilt cars is, well, they're handbuilt :-) mine is a 6-speed, not an F1. i've never driven an F1 f-car. doody. |
Mr. Doody (Doody)
Intermediate Member Username: Doody
Post Number: 1435 Registered: 11-2001
| Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 7:42 pm: | |
what on earth is that pictogram supposed to be? what's he jumping over or on? doody. |
allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Member Username: Allanlambo
Post Number: 851 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 7:40 pm: | |
We must have a different opinion of smooth as butter shifting, as i have driven atleast 10 355's and they are all the same. |
Mr. Doody (Doody)
Intermediate Member Username: Doody
Post Number: 1434 Registered: 11-2001
| Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 7:38 pm: | |
my 355 doesn't exhibit any of the problems you explain. no warning lights. no overheating problems. smooth-as-butter shifting. etc. doody. |
"The Don" (The_don)
Senior Member Username: The_don
Post Number: 6104 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 7:25 pm: | |
Allan. After acting like a a$$ for days, you deserve all the crap you get. |
allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Member Username: Allanlambo
Post Number: 850 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 7:24 pm: | |
Oh, figured id get a response like that. |
"The Don" (The_don)
Senior Member Username: The_don
Post Number: 6103 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 7:24 pm: | |
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"The Don" (The_don)
Senior Member Username: The_don
Post Number: 6102 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 7:23 pm: | |
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allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Member Username: Allanlambo
Post Number: 849 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 7:22 pm: | |
I asked this on another thread, and recieved no answers, so im making a new thread for it. In honesty, id like your true opinions as to why. Try not to let your emotions for the name Ferrari get in the way, because i watch many of you complain of 10 million problems in your cars, than 5 minutes later Ferrari is the best car in the world. Here is my question. Maybe you guys can explain this, since according to you, i own a horrendous piece of crap wannabe Lamborghini with no race heritage, and i own, what is considered by some one of the greatest Ferraris, the 355, with its F1 race inspired 8500rpm motor. So why when i drive my piece of crap Diablo, in 115 degree heat, does the temp stay at a constant 180 degrees? When in traffic, it might hit 190? But my super F1 inspired Ferrari temp gauge bounces all over the place, and when it gets in traffic, will nicely settle itself slightly below the 260 red mark? This according to what is written here is normal, and confirmed by Scottsdale Ferrari. Why in my piece of crap Lambo, does it shift smooth as butter, while my super Ferrari is balky and reluctant? Why does my piece of crap lambo, with many more miles have absolutely no squeeks or rattles, and yet in my Super Ferrari, it sounds like you just lost a piece of the car going over a bump? Why do i have slow down lights popping up in my Ferrari with no cats, which people say is normal and to just pull the bulb, while my shitbox tractor Lambo has never had a light pop up? Why is the dashpod leather shrinking on a 7,000 mile garage kept one owner Ferrari, when on my tractor its in perfect shape? Why do headers crack on my Ferrari needing replacement of F1 inspired parts, while my tractors are perfect? Why does my Ferrari need belt replacement every 15,000 miles, when my Tractor does not? Does racing truly improve the breed? Or does Ferrari just use the resources from the streetcars to only improve its racecars? |