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Barry Wolinsky (308gtb)
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Username: 308gtb

Post Number: 626
Registered: 2-2002
Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 11:43 am:   

Taek-Ho Kwon,

Sorry you missed out on that Fiberglass GTB at Steve Harris. Looking at the front bumper again, it appears that it is a Euro bumper:

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Here is my North American version front end treatment:

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Barry
Tyson Hall (Trhall)
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Post Number: 166
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 11:01 pm:   

Any time Taek.
Alan Leach (Speedy308)
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Post Number: 47
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 9:19 pm:   

Drive it daily. But you need a work truck to go for parts, fix flats and stuff like that.
Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
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Username: Stickanddice

Post Number: 1751
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 6:02 pm:   

The Steve Harris 308 has been sold.

Damn. I called them just now. I would have called them when I found out about it at first, but even then it would have been too late. Either way, I was preoccupied about another car at the time too. Maybe brokers are worth it? :-) I should draft Tyson Hall!

Cheers
Barry Wolinsky (308gtb)
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Username: 308gtb

Post Number: 625
Registered: 2-2002
Posted on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 5:59 pm:   

Yes, Dave, sure enough! This one has both sets of back up lights. Also, the rear valance is a North American version as on mine:

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The Euro version GTB Fiberglass has a single cut-out for the exhaust pipe:

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I think it's a good prospect, Taek-Ho Kwon, for you to check out.

Barry

dave handa (Davehanda)
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Username: Davehanda

Post Number: 1371
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 3:15 pm:   

The Steve Harris 308 GTB IS a euro. Did anyone notice that the rear tailights are incorrect? It as the North American ones (amber) with the backup lights in the center. Euro cars have the back up lights in the bumper, hence no backup lights in the tail lights... This car has both!
Barry Wolinsky (308gtb)
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Username: 308gtb

Post Number: 624
Registered: 2-2002
Posted on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 2:51 pm:   

I think the GTB at Steve Harris is a Euro version. The DOT conversion is responsible for the US sidemarkers and front directional lenses The rear bumber is a Euro bumper. The front bumper might be a North American bumper, retracted a bit.

Barry
Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
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Username: Stickanddice

Post Number: 1690
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 12:26 pm:   

Ralph,

I've always wanted one. It is definitely a beautiful car in my eyes. Yeah, I'm afraid about the high mileage, although I always preach that people should drive drive drive their cars. Jim's put over 100k miles on a TR though...that's a good start. Another thing that bugs me about the car is the weird front fender. Looks like a US model that had the front bumper retracted a bit. It doesn't look like a Euro model.

Also, if I want to get into old cars it seems that I'm going to need a few daily drivers in case the odd thing goes wrong here and there.

Cheers
Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
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Username: Ralfabco

Post Number: 551
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 12:21 pm:   

Is 50K miles excessive on a glass
76 308 GTB. Is'nt a full rebuilt
motor just on the horizon ? This
is the S. Harris Car.
James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
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Username: Napolis

Post Number: 2091
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 12:18 pm:   

Taek
Mine was an 80 308 GTBi bought new traded in on my TR which was my next daily driver which I drove 115,000 miles.
Best
Jim
Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
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Username: Stickanddice

Post Number: 1687
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 12:14 pm:   

Jim,

Was that a carb car you had or a QV?

I'd love to get one as a daily. But I've been scared out of it twice already.

Cheers
James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
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Username: Napolis

Post Number: 2090
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 11:21 am:   

Drove mine 85,000 miles in rain, sleet, and snow into and out of NYC. Bumper to bumper. Loved it.
Tillman Strahan (Tillman)
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Username: Tillman

Post Number: 803
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 9:51 am:   

I drive a 328 pretty much daily, amd my commute is 70 miles round trip. Buy the latest, best car you can afford, put aside some cash for maintenance, and don't try to be Schumacher. The 308 isn't going to win stoplight drag races, so don't be tempted -- it'll only cost you money.

I have over 6K miles on my car since October. The previous owner really worked the car over, so reliability hasn't been a concern at all. In fact, the only real downtime I've had was due to pinched and burned wiring after a console switch was replaced, and even then the car was still driveable.
Steven R. Rochlin (Enjoythemusic)
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Post Number: 593
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 9:21 am:   

MB,

85 308GTS QV is my daily driver. Matt "The Don" is spot on. Get a good ppi, make sure clutch and cam belts are done, or expect these.

Have driven the QV here well over 5k miles since Feb without incident. Have seen/heard of quite a few 308QV with well over 100k. Just keep her well-serviced and all is fine provided you do not take her mudding or on too rough roads too often. The car IS durable, but not a 4x4.

Enjoy the Drive,

Steven R. Rochlin
Peter Cyr (Pete04222)
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Username: Pete04222

Post Number: 59
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 8:13 am:   

I would go with a QV. For a daily driver stay away from points and carbs.
"The Don" (The_don)
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Username: The_don

Post Number: 6114
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 7:52 am:   

MB,

I use a 78 308 carb has my daily

I average about 15-20k a year.

It's fine for me. I can deal with the limited storage and room just fine.

Maintenance is higher on the carb cars then the FI or QV. the QV is down on power compared to the carb cars and the FI has the least HP of them all.

The key is to get a car that has a clean PPI and requires little or no work otherwise you will be throwing money at it the whole time trying to play catch up.

Don't get the lowest milage car either. Get a car with some miles that are well documented.

Make sure the timing belts and a recent clutch (40k miles or higher). Those are the two single most expensive things to fix.

Expect about 2k a year in maintenance using the car daily. it may be higher or it may be lower. It really depends.

Where are you located? If you are in So Cal I can bring my car over and you can take it for a spin.

Matt
DGS (Dgs)
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Username: Dgs

Post Number: 201
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 7:09 am:   

It depends on routine quality service. My 328 was my summer daily driver for the last three years, without a problem (up until the last service). The QV should be just about as capable.

But pay attention to your commuting roads. While it's possible to steer around the odd pothole, a Ferrari is not an "off-road" vehicle. This summer, the massive road construction around "Metro-West" Massachusetts makes it a hostile environment for a Ferrari. The EVO VIII is better for the "special stages". It's been some time since I've been in the Phila area, but in the '70s, the "sure-kill distressway" was also a car eater.
MB (Speedracer33)
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Post Number: 1
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 6:06 am:   

Does anybody here use a 308 as daily transportation? I'm considering purchasing one for this purpose, and I wanted to see if I could get some guidance here as to whether this is a good idea or not. Okay, I know it isn't a *good* idea, but I want to know exactly how bad of an idea it is. I live in Pennsylvania, but I do have a sport-ute that I use when the weather is bad (and only when the weather is bad). Does anybody have any insights for me? Thanks.

Matt

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