| Author | Message | ||
| Dan (Bobafett)
Intermediate Member Username: Bobafett Post Number: 1136 Registered: 9-2002 |
Shelbee: Is that Jack in those pictures? Damn his beard has grown... --Dan | ||
| PlayersMarkus (Playersmarkus)
Junior Member Username: Playersmarkus Post Number: 116 Registered: 10-2002 |
I know a guy who has an Enzo for sale - and he's real...he actually participated in the last Playersrun. Only catch...it's an Euro Enzo ;o) Markus Playersrun.com | ||
| Dr. Shelbee (Shelbee)
Member Username: Shelbee Post Number: 442 Registered: 12-2002 |
I noted Silicon Valley Auto group had ENZO that had been sold http://www.siliconvalleyautogroup.com/ferrari_stock/ferrari_9998/photo_page.html Their F50 had also been sold. The left over is 288 GTO Simply amazing what the blue chips can do to these toys | ||
| V.Z. (Ama328)
Junior Member Username: Ama328 Post Number: 195 Registered: 11-2002 |
btw, if you win, the check'll be in the mail, C.O.D.  | ||
| V.Z. (Ama328)
Junior Member Username: Ama328 Post Number: 194 Registered: 11-2002 |
$10 says this guy's a 15-17 yr old punk, workin' out of his bedroom...any takers ? | ||
| mike montoya (Racer_f50)
New member Username: Racer_f50 Post Number: 20 Registered: 6-2003 |
Hey Pat, i think i found a legit reason for the guy to say "The other vehicle was sold before it even hit eBay." probly cuz that very lucky driver of the MM Enzo bought it before the guy put it up on ebay! has anybody emailed him again telling him that VIN was from the MM Enzo? usually idiots like that get pretty flustered when you bring up a flaw in their schemes. | ||
| gary green (Minuke)
Junior Member Username: Minuke Post Number: 80 Registered: 7-2003 |
Doody, This sound's like a case for the F.B.I. | ||
| Pat Pasqualini (Enzo)
Member Username: Enzo Post Number: 815 Registered: 2-2002 |
Was his address on that page too maybe I will go over and let his parents know he is illegally seeling cars | ||
| Mr. Doody (Doody)
Intermediate Member Username: Doody Post Number: 1463 Registered: 11-2001 |
gary - the theory is that he's some scammer using an assumed name selling ficticious enzos. presumably he sets up a phony escrow setup and steals your money. it is possible that he's 100% for real, but if so, he is well on his way to being the largest enzo dealer on planet earth. and we've already caught him lying once - the first car we saw him list on ebay was absolutely not his to sell. doody. | ||
| gary green (Minuke)
Junior Member Username: Minuke Post Number: 79 Registered: 7-2003 |
I'm confused, can you fill me in what's going on with this guy? | ||
| Pat Pasqualini (Enzo)
Member Username: Enzo Post Number: 814 Registered: 2-2002 |
This guy lives within 10 miles of me | ||
| Mr. Doody (Doody)
Intermediate Member Username: Doody Post Number: 1462 Registered: 11-2001 |
according to www.domania.com, it looks like he paid $135K for his 3BR/2BA home in March 2001. we'll assume he'll be "movin' on up" after the sale of his THIRD enzo doody. | ||
| Pat Pasqualini (Enzo)
Member Username: Enzo Post Number: 813 Registered: 2-2002 |
I will | ||
| Mr. Doody (Doody)
Intermediate Member Username: Doody Post Number: 1461 Registered: 11-2001 |
this guy is selling his THIRD Enzo already? that's neat - nearly 1% of all worldwide production. what an uncommon name. http://www.rentacoder.com/RentACoder/SoftwareBuyers/showBuyerInfo.asp?lngAuthorId=87120 only one on the planet, according go google. he's based in Minneapolis. worked at or works at Guidant - [email protected]. someone should email this address and ask him if he knows someone else by that name in MN. doody. ADDED: this from the BigFoot white pages search: Hoque, Titon 142 Canabury Court Little Canada, MN 55117 651/766-0880 maybe someone should call him? | ||
| Pat Pasqualini (Enzo)
Member Username: Enzo Post Number: 810 Registered: 2-2002 |
I got a response from the jerky Sorry, The other vehicle was sold before it even hit eBay. What is your offer on the Enzo? Unfortunately 2 are being delivered next week, they have a delivery date to the US on July 30th. 1 of them is an open order, the customer may spec out the details of the exact Enzo they would built. This particular one, I have asked the seller for some pictures. With the terms of sale, your money would go into an Escrow account and only transferred to the seller upon inspection of the vehicle. If you are truly interested, make an acceptable offer. Then I will lock the car in with a deposit in the escrow account. Then upon inspection of the vehicle, you make payment for the remainder. I am very close to negotiating a deal with the current bidder. These vehicle's are going for about 1.3M Thanks Titon hoque [email protected] | ||
| Tyson Hall (Trhall)
Junior Member Username: Trhall Post Number: 167 Registered: 6-2003 |
The Vin# he is using now is from a Euro car. | ||
| David R. (Rodsky)
Junior Member Username: Rodsky Post Number: 146 Registered: 3-2003 |
I think its in reference to the "most miles" Enzo. In other words, the owner is really driving it. | ||
| Jason (Arnaget)
Junior Member Username: Arnaget Post Number: 75 Registered: 3-2003 |
please pardon my ignorance..but what is meant by "MM Enzo".. i wasnt able to find it out through google or any other channels. i apologize if it's a silly question..just curious | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 2141 Registered: 10-2002 |
Sean Both of you should file a complaint with the Provo Police. At least go on record. You should also put ebay on notice and email a cease and desist notice to seller for using your vin#. Best | ||
| ryan (Ferrari_kid)
New member Username: Ferrari_kid Post Number: 14 Registered: 7-2003 |
this might be pointless right now, but they list the milage on the Enzo as 0. i thought they track test every car that leaves the factory, making sure the engine is broken in correctly, etc. or did i get this info wrong? | ||
| Sean Harris (Sharris)
New member Username: Sharris Post Number: 31 Registered: 3-2002 |
This is all too common, we used to post the VIN of our cars in inventory on our webpage so a legitimate buyer could do his homework. We had to stop because they were showing up on ebay. The owner of the Enzo is not very happy his car showed up on there. It is not for sale and he has no plans to sell it. With 5,000 miles already aquired he is having too much fun. | ||
| Mark (Study)
Member Username: Study Post Number: 596 Registered: 10-2001 |
"Latest:No one wants to help, guys.. every FBI office I have contacted, told me to email the internet fraud division, that they couldnt help me. The internet fraud division hasnt returned my email in 36+ hours (perhaps someone hacked their mail server). Ebay didnt care, and the bank in question didnt really care. Welcome to America. Its time to get tough. I just emailed Dateline NBC. Will keep you posted on their reply." | ||
| Pat Pasqualini (Enzo)
Member Username: Enzo Post Number: 807 Registered: 2-2002 |
I e-mailed him again asking for the pics and the vin stating I was an interested buyer | ||
| Mark (Study)
Member Username: Study Post Number: 595 Registered: 10-2001 |
This is wild. The guys on NSXprime are bidding on the car and trying to get the guys bank info to wire him the money. Then turn it over to Ebay and the cops. Ebay wont do its job. So car people have to do it. What a shame. | ||
| Mark (Study)
Member Username: Study Post Number: 594 Registered: 10-2001 |
There is a thread on NSXprime.com "What to do if you find your car listed on Ebay?" The thread is 4 pages long! http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?s=c9826df403469dbfd9833e7887c4312d&threadid=20328 | ||
| Pat Pasqualini (Enzo)
Member Username: Enzo Post Number: 806 Registered: 2-2002 |
He's back with different pics http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2425183195&category=6212 | ||
| T. M. (4renthusiast)
New member Username: 4renthusiast Post Number: 8 Registered: 7-2003 |
How can you tell? I know the vin was on ebay, but how do you know the vin of the MM Enzo? | ||
| Tyson Hall (Trhall)
Junior Member Username: Trhall Post Number: 163 Registered: 6-2003 |
I think Cheeseman is right the Vin# is from the MM Enzo sold by Steve Harris Imports in SLC,Utah. http://www.ferrarinetwork.com/more.phtml | ||
| Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Member Username: Ralfabco Post Number: 559 Registered: 3-2002 |
Jack how much will the rides cost for you to break even ? Assuming you might be able to park the car and advertise rides at Disney Land. Probably the lines will not be that bad for the Enzo. | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Senior Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 5311 Registered: 5-2001 |
How about Trunk space? Can she go to the grocery store with the Enzo? Does it clear the parking stoppers with the front nose? She has a problem with hitting those with the McLaren, also the ramp in and out of Publix is a little steep for the Mc Laren. I talekd to the store manager already but he said: just bring the 550 Barchetta when you come shopping. She likes the McLaren though because it can not get door dings in the tight parking spots! the problems of the rich and famous! | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Senior Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 5310 Registered: 5-2001 |
I'll take 2 of those please, one red one yellow, my wife prefers yellow for hers! | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Senior Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 5309 Registered: 5-2001 |
thats not a bad deal! | ||
| Jack (Gilles27)
Intermediate Member Username: Gilles27 Post Number: 1193 Registered: 3-2002 |
Well, since he was kind enough to post a payment calculator, I figured I'd finance it from him. I'm going to do the max 72 months, nothing down, and since he's letting me choose my interest rate, I'll go with 1/2 %. That comes to a mere $11,280 per month! Hooo, baby. Who wants a ride? | ||
| T. M. (4renthusiast)
New member Username: 4renthusiast Post Number: 7 Registered: 7-2003 |
Let alone an actual owner!!! Time to go, Chat later Chao | ||
| T. M. (4renthusiast)
New member Username: 4renthusiast Post Number: 6 Registered: 7-2003 |
Exactly, which is precisely why I say whomever posted it on ebay, was not much of an enthusiast. | ||
| Andrew H (Stokpro)
Junior Member Username: Stokpro Post Number: 68 Registered: 6-2003 |
T.M., No need for a cd player when you've got the sound of 12 cylinders powering you. Enzo is not equipped with power windows. The lighter the better. | ||
| T. M. (4renthusiast)
New member Username: 4renthusiast Post Number: 5 Registered: 7-2003 |
Very good!!! Now you've got the right idea! | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Senior Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 5306 Registered: 5-2001 |
auction was ended by e-bay. I guess the true owner of the car found his VIN on e-bay! | ||
| T. M. (4renthusiast)
New member Username: 4renthusiast Post Number: 4 Registered: 7-2003 |
Not to mention the cd player, power seats, power windows, etc. Were these even options on that car??? | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 2112 Registered: 10-2002 |
What I find interesting is that so far 0 bids. | ||
| T. M. (4renthusiast)
New member Username: 4renthusiast Post Number: 3 Registered: 7-2003 |
Precisely, and FNA was not desperate to find owners for them. So they would make sure to choose someone who would keep the car. And enjoy it!!! | ||
| TC (Houston) (Tec)
Junior Member Username: Tec Post Number: 151 Registered: 2-2002 |
I was joking about whether or not the owner could afford the car. Martin is right, though. This will probably be the best time to sell one if you can part with it! I imagine the vast majority of these cars were purchased by people with passion for the car that outweighs a quick $400k profit by flipping it. | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Senior Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 5304 Registered: 5-2001 |
and then it is FNA that choses the Enzo owner! | ||
| T. M. (4renthusiast)
New member Username: 4renthusiast Post Number: 2 Registered: 7-2003 |
THEY ARE ALSO USUALLY PRETTY SOLID, AND DON'T NEED TO BACK OUT OF PURCHASES. THE FERRARI DEALERS WERE VERY CHOOSY ABOUT WHO THEY WOULD SELL THOSE CARS TOO! | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Senior Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 5303 Registered: 5-2001 |
for what its worth: my checking account (personal) shows $ 301.03 right this minute! | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Senior Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 5302 Registered: 5-2001 |
...because not all owners of Ferraris have $680,000 sitting cash in their safe! Most Millionairs are Cash Stapped and equity rich! | ||
| T. M. (4renthusiast)
New member Username: 4renthusiast Post Number: 1 Registered: 7-2003 |
Why would the dealer choose an owner who couldn't afford the car? | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Senior Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 5300 Registered: 5-2001 |
Frank Parker: "If you can not pay cash for it, you can not afford it!" Then if you were lucky enough to get it, you will make $400,000 cash the day of delivery! So taking a $600,000 loan out on the car is not such a bad thing after all. I would gladly sign that note! Tom, lets go out and buy one! | ||
| TC (Houston) (Tec)
Junior Member Username: Tec Post Number: 150 Registered: 2-2002 |
Lien?!!! Owner financed the purchase! It must be for sale because the owner can't afford it. | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Advanced Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 4233 Registered: 9-2001 |
sounds like we should put Fletch on the case | ||
| z. b. (Cheeseman)
New member Username: Cheeseman Post Number: 26 Registered: 4-2002 |
isnt the mm enzo from the road and track article from provo? looks fishy to me. | ||
| Jeffrey Robbins (Teachdna)
Junior Member Username: Teachdna Post Number: 115 Registered: 9-2001 |
The carfax checks out more or less. there's a lien on the car but that's not unusual. Initially registered in Provo.  | ||
| Pat Pasqualini (Enzo)
Member Username: Enzo Post Number: 796 Registered: 2-2002 |
Since I posted this morning the ad on e-bay has had over 3000 people looking at it. Not bad exposure if he actually had the car. | ||
| Andrew H (Stokpro)
Junior Member Username: Stokpro Post Number: 67 Registered: 6-2003 |
The Don, I can run a CarFax, what would you like to know? | ||
| Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Member Username: Ralfabco Post Number: 557 Registered: 3-2002 |
Just think what the price of these cars will be three years from now. When the Bugatti and "everything else" has already come out. Of course you will have NO PROBLEM locating a car with 2,000 miles on it three years from now. How much $$ will you save by waiting in the back of the line ?????? With the "change" you save lets see what you could pick up by waiting ? A 996 TT daily driver. Hello Taek-Ho. A 360 Ferrari Modena. A 512 BBI Boxer "For your classic meets" Perhaps a Toyota Corolla and a few other items ? Hey it looks better driving in the Corolla when you have to purchase milk for your kids. R 6 Yamaha. Yes it is dangerous. carbon fiber stick to keep people away from your car. This is assuming someone will let the Enzo "go" for a realistic buyers price of a cool 1 Million. I also am figuring the car will drop down to "around" the sticker price within three years. I have no crystal ball. I know that it is always prudent to be the # 2 person in town with the hot new toy. I am NOT taking a shot at the car. I am taking a shot at the people that are FORCEING their way to the front of the line. Of course it is their money. It is a very nice car though. | ||
| David Stoeppelwerth (Racerdj)
Member Username: Racerdj Post Number: 336 Registered: 1-2003 |
Mr. Doody-"whatever happened to the one that was posted here before by the broker who was brokering another broker's car (or however it worked out)?" I sent that individual a private e-mail wanting more info, all history and service records on the F-50 they had listed at his dealership. His response? I'm still waiting for one! | ||
| "The Don" (The_don)
Senior Member Username: The_don Post Number: 6153 Registered: 8-2002 |
Jim, LOL! | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 2104 Registered: 10-2002 |
Matt When you chop the dash and shove it in. Same with electic windows, when you install the kit from JC Whitney... Best | ||
| "The Don" (The_don)
Senior Member Username: The_don Post Number: 6151 Registered: 8-2002 |
since when does the Enzo come with a CD player? | ||
| "The Don" (The_don)
Senior Member Username: The_don Post Number: 6150 Registered: 8-2002 |
Can anyone run a carfax on the car? | ||
| Andrew-Phillip Goalen (Andrewg)
Junior Member Username: Andrewg Post Number: 221 Registered: 9-2002 |
different flooring as well, most shots polished concrete, the one with the chassis# tiles!) | ||
| "The Don" (The_don)
Senior Member Username: The_don Post Number: 6148 Registered: 8-2002 |
Why in one clear pic of the interior is the car cover there and then in another shot, it's not. Looks like two different camera's with pictures taken at different times. If you are trying to hock your car, wouldn't you get better pictures? | ||
| ELI (Titanium360)
Member Username: Titanium360 Post Number: 518 Registered: 4-2002 |
Martin, even better. info on how to buy a H2 for $5K. money back guarantee! | ||
| Pat Pasqualini (Enzo)
Member Username: Enzo Post Number: 793 Registered: 2-2002 |
Thats what I thought Matt | ||
| "The Don" (The_don)
Senior Member Username: The_don Post Number: 6147 Registered: 8-2002 |
Is it me or do those pictures of the window sticker look familiar. I though someone posted them here back in Jan. | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Senior Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 5290 Registered: 5-2001 |
Motorcars international | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Senior Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 5289 Registered: 5-2001 |
thos epoictures were taken at a Ferrari dealer. I just can not remember the dealers name. | ||
| Pat Pasqualini (Enzo)
Member Username: Enzo Post Number: 792 Registered: 2-2002 |
If you look at his other items he has nothing even remotely close to that price range. I e-mailed and asked for a viewing if the car is in Mpls. We will see if he responds. | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Senior Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 5287 Registered: 5-2001 |
he is not selling the Hummer for $ 25K but the info on how to buy one for $25K. The info will cost you $9.95. I wonder why he does not buy the Hummer himslef and sell it to me for $ 35K? He must have money if he owns this Enzo, right? | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Senior Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 5286 Registered: 5-2001 |
Thank God he explained what the Enzo is, otherwise I would not want to buy it! I guess there are people on ebay shopping for $ 1Mio price tag items not knowing what they are. | ||
| ELI (Titanium360)
Member Username: Titanium360 Post Number: 517 Registered: 4-2002 |
PAT, He is also selling a Hummer H2 for $25K | ||
| Mr. Doody (Doody)
Intermediate Member Username: Doody Post Number: 1449 Registered: 11-2001 |
whatever happened to the one that was posted here before by the broker who was brokering another broker's car (or however it worked out)? doody. | ||
| Pat Pasqualini (Enzo)
Member Username: Enzo Post Number: 791 Registered: 2-2002 |
This one is actually in Minneapolis. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2424860477&category=6212 |