| Author | Message | ||
| Robert (Rjklein4470)
Member Username: Rjklein4470 Post Number: 279 Registered: 3-2002 |
I just picked up my Cayanne as well have less than 1k on it so far, and I am having a blast driving this SUV. I had a X5, and this is by far a better car. The interior is better, and the car works great off road. I am on construction sites a couple of times a week, and this SUV works way better than the BMW X5. I know that Porsche is getting abused for this car, and they are not selling all that well, but just go drive one, you will understand. Rob | ||
| Andrew-Phillip Goalen (Andrewg)
Junior Member Username: Andrewg Post Number: 238 Registered: 9-2002 |
I agree with Pete, however one thing that seems to be catching on more and more in the UK is using LPG (propane) to power cars, only a slight downside in power and a huge upside in emissions(sp) the only good thing about the UK's high fuels prices (7-8$ a gallon) is that most people have cars under 2.5L that average 31mpg (According to the RAC) Dont think Maserati should build a SUV but rather an inovative alternative (just don't ask me what) that way we may be able to reverse the trend of big overpowered gross polluting SUV shopping trolleys (if anybody can think of a good reason why you need a 4.6L range rover to go to the shops please tell me!) | ||
| Dan 360 (Dan360)
Junior Member Username: Dan360 Post Number: 101 Registered: 2-2003 |
... I was thinking of having my SUV converted to run on Japanese whale blubber... :-) On the fuel consumption front, my 360 is arguably the most economical vehicle I own. It gets better mileage on the interstate that either my X5 or my beater suburban. So I have 24 cylinders in 3 cars, and the power is in reverse proportions to engine size (3.6 400hp, 4.4 286hp, 5.7 about 200?). I like having a crappy old car (Suburban is '93) so that I can throw garden rubbish and stuff to take to the dump - I really wouldn't want to put smelly stuff in a brand new Cayenne. But both my wife and I LOVE the X5 - I'd say its arguably the best vehicle we've owned. Its easy to get our two small children in, it cruises at 90, and it has amongst the best safety ratings of any SUV. It eats up miles on long journeys - I don't care that a honda people carrier is more appropriate to the task at hand and more efficient. I think that when the kids are bigger, we may move to an estate (UK term for "Station-wagon") - Merc E55 seems like the obvious choice... PS these opinions are directly related to the fact that I grew up with Petrol in the UK @ 4-5USD a gallon. Running my suburban at 10MPG is equivalent in cost terms to a 40MPG mini-car in the UK... | ||
| Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
Intermediate Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 2485 Registered: 4-2002 |
O, OK I THOUGHT THEY WERE YOUNGER FOR THE GAME BOY ERA AS I HAVE TOO MANY BATTERIES IN MY WAREHOUSE  | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 2191 Registered: 10-2002 |
Bruce 15 & 21. Best | ||
| Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
Intermediate Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 2484 Registered: 4-2002 |
JIM THANKS..THEY ARE GOING TO TRAILER IT FROM MY HOUSE TO THEM..I HAVE A GREAT IN WITH FNA,,SO I DONT EXPECT PROBLEMS,,BUT THANKS FOR YOUR NAME DROPPING.. BTW, HOW OLD ARE YOUR KIDS>> BRUCE | ||
| PSk (Psk)
Member Username: Psk Post Number: 807 Registered: 11-2002 |
Haha Jim, Yes that is a major point ... what she wants she gets and then everybody is happy Pete | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 2189 Registered: 10-2002 |
Bruce I'll talk to them and make sure they take care of you. While you're there check out my MK-IV which is being readied for Pebble. Best | ||
| Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
Intermediate Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 2482 Registered: 4-2002 |
JAMES GOOD POINT..I HAVE A GREAT WIFE TOO...AFTER ALL A DIVORCE WOULD COST ME MORE IF I DISAGREED WITH HER VEHICLE PURCHASE BTW, OFF TO WWOC TOMORROW, I JUST BLEW A MAIN SEAL..I GUESS JIM MURPHY WILL BE GETTING A CALL ALOT SOONER FOR MY 30K SERVICE..IM SO PEED OFF BRUCE | ||
| PSk (Psk)
Member Username: Psk Post Number: 806 Registered: 11-2002 |
David,
Yep I have a weakness when it comes to Italian sportscars ... er, maybe a disease , but if you read what I posted carefully I believe in having the most practical vehicle to do most of the work, and what ever you like for the occasional run in the weekends or on the race track. Thus doing the daily run to work we do not need 400 hp and 10 mpg, and who cares if you do not look cool, BUT in the weekends and when you want to replenish your soul ... well go and waste some gas and make a lot of noise. I personally will not feel bad about this because I have saved a bucket load during the week Thus I do not propose that we should ALWAYS be bored out of our brains and that driving should just be about getting from A to B (as my wife sees it  ) ... Pete | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 2188 Registered: 10-2002 |
Pete I don't disagree but there's one other issue. She deceided this is what she wanted and she really loves it. Having been married for 32 years that's all I really care about. Best | ||
| Dr. Ken Lee (Kenster888)
Junior Member Username: Kenster888 Post Number: 182 Registered: 4-2003 |
I smell TR. | ||
| David McGee (Damcgee)
Junior Member Username: Damcgee Post Number: 85 Registered: 2-2003 |
Psk, it seems to me you're trying to argue that we shouldn't own vehicles that aren't practical and perfectly well suited to our "needs". This view conflicts drastically with your enthusiasm for Ferrari. Ferrari's are described in many ways, but practical will never be one of them. | ||
| John C (Racer_x)
New member Username: Racer_x Post Number: 24 Registered: 6-2003 |
Porsche may be the most profitable, but that's because they use "cheaper" products now compared to before. They almost went bankrupt in the 90s. That is also why most Boxters are made in Finland, the sheetmetal is no longer "ding" resistant and the leather is from China. I would rather get the VW Tourag. Same frame and looks better. | ||
| PSk (Psk)
Member Username: Psk Post Number: 805 Registered: 11-2002 |
Jim,
This sounds like a good use of it. To change the subject a little as I do not want to start a argument or debate, I find it very interesting that nowadays the manufacturers advertise that you need a 4wd or some sort of heavy vehicle to tow anything ... when I can remember my father towing our caravan on family holidays with a 2 ltr Triumph. Yes these modern vehicles might tow BETTER, but in the end we are simply accepting less compromise and thus buying these big fuel wasting vehicles for the 2 times a year towing job ... when we really don't need them. I used to tow my race car with a 2 ltr van, and it had no trouble at all ... and I used to cruise at 120 kmh. Anyway I respect the Cayenne because I have enormous respect for Porsche as a maker of vehicles ... I just do not respect the need for such a fast vehicle of its type. Pete | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 2185 Registered: 10-2002 |
Pete My wife picked up her Cayenne Turbo last sat. It now has 800 miles on it. It's a very impressive piece of equiptment. The ride height goes from 5.5 to 11.5 and the geometry stays correct. The controls, nav system are the best I've seen in ANY car ever. You can lower it futher and raise your trailer hitch into your trailer so you don't have to jack up your trailer. It also self levels and ajusts for the trailer tounge weight. We often go on long trips with lots of crap (with our 2 kids) and she's going to use it to pull her horses. Finally should we have to go from Paris to Dakar it's nice to know you have a vehicle that can make it. Best | ||
| PSk (Psk)
Member Username: Psk Post Number: 804 Registered: 11-2002 |
Both of these were for demonstrations only ... not to be sold ... Anyway, each to their own but I enjoy the fact that my boring mini-van/people mover uses bugger all petrol and handles like a mini-van so I do have to remind myself that I have the kids in the car ... before pretending to be MS going into a corner. Car manufacturers in general, are going for a stupid phase of making bigger and bigger engines, and faster and faster cars. Time for a petrol crisis I think to get them to start thinking with their head and not their egos. I have nothing against sportscars wasting gas ... because they are not marketed as a use every day vehicle, but the go to work and shopping car should be a fuel miser, so we can feel good about the world and that we are actually doing our bit to help ... when we do drive the sportscar. Pete | ||
| Dr. Erik Nielsen (Judge4re)
Junior Member Username: Judge4re Post Number: 105 Registered: 4-2003 |
Porsche is the most profitable (percentage wise) of all of the car manufacturers. Designing the Cayanne was the only way that they could grow their customer base. Everyone that wants a 911 or a Boxster that can afford it, is getting one... BMW took their Le Mans spec engine and put it in a prototype X5 several years back and ran it round the 'ring, and Renault took not only the motor, but all of the running gear from one of their F1 cars AND PUT IT IN A MINIVAN!!! If Porsche is to be criticized, get them for not being imaginitive enough or late to the party. | ||
| PSk (Psk)
Member Username: Psk Post Number: 802 Registered: 11-2002 |
Hopefully the sky will darken and a lightening bolt will come from the skies and destroy the board members of Ferrari if they ever seriously discuss this option. Yes to 2+2, but for Mother of mercy, no 4WD or people movers from the manufacterers of vehicles where soul is their main requirement. People movers (I even own one) are fantasticly practical vehicles that have all their design goals in the complete opposite direction to what Ferrari are all about. I even disagree with Maserati and Porsche building such machines. While the Porsche might be a fantastic machine it is rediculous creating a machine designed for practical work ... that is so impractical and such a waster of our natural resources. To take the kids to the shops in a 450hp gas waster is absolutely stupid when a Toyota people mover will do exactly the same job, except your nose will not be touching the hood (ceiling) lining. Make 450hp sportscars, don't design practical vehicles that JUST waste petrol, because if you want to go fast ... you don't buy a people mover with a 2 foot high roll centre ... and if you want a people mover, you should be thinking practicality and environmentally responsible ... not trying to put one over the neighbour. Shame on Porsche ... that car must waste more resources per mile than just about anything else ever produced, and the question is still WHY? Who the f**k needs a racing people mover???, you should not even be thinking fast when you have your family in the car!!!!. Just rediculous IMO. Pete | ||
| Dr. Erik Nielsen (Judge4re)
Junior Member Username: Judge4re Post Number: 104 Registered: 4-2003 |
No, they don't have to if Maser builds the Kubang. | ||
| Mark (Study)
Member Username: Study Post Number: 610 Registered: 10-2001 |
Today I saw Porsche doing a puplic test day with their SUV. They had the parking-lot of GulfStream( Miami horse racing track) set up with cones and some big ten foot high hills made of dirt. Funny seeing 5 or 6 of them speeding down the back straight then doing the off road stuff on the same track. | ||
| gary green (Minuke)
Junior Member Username: Minuke Post Number: 97 Registered: 7-2003 |
Do you think they will ever make one. |