| Author | Message | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
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I hope not, Keep in touch. Brgds, Magoo | ||
| Willis Huang (Willis360)
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Magoo, The dealer had to order the Michelins and that will take a little time. They are also fully booked in the service bay so I have to wait my turn. My comprehensive 5K mile service will take a while too. There's too many cars and not enough mechanics. Yes, I agree. The longer it stays the larger the bill. | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
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Willis, Keeping the car a week or so probably means that you will have a extra charge on your bill. SUNBATH: $500.00 | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
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Arnaldo, I am reading from a can of the Flat Fix and it says, "DANGER, Do not attempt to repair tire or have repaired while still inflated. It is important that all gas be expelled from tire in open area not subject to fire. Tire should be deflated and inflated at least 4 times to expel flamable gas. NOTIFY REPAIR PERSON THAT A TIRE INFLATOR & SEALER HAS BEEN USED AND TO TAKE NECESSARY PRECAUTIONS." Now naturally this is a "cover your ass" type of warning. However the gas is flamable and some reasonable care should be taken. I have used it many times and I think it is a great product. I have one in each of my cars. MAGOO | ||
| Willis Huang (Willis360)
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Talked to my mechanic this afternoon. Look like I'll be without my car for about a week or a little longer (DOH!!). I hope they don't find anything serious during the 5K mile service. | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
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They just pull it off like the normally would, it makes a mess though on the floor though. You can definitely still use your rim again, all it is, is a thin rubber layer that forms inside the tire. I put it in one of my rims everytime I get a new tire cause it has a slow leak (like a pound a day) and you can't weld magnesium very easily. I think the stuff is great personally, it saves you alot of headaches and I guess space in the Ferrari. The guys at the garage never complain at all about it. As far as it being a spare tire though, if you shredded the tire slowing down from 60mph you'd have a hell of a time trying to get this stuff to seal it. | ||
| Arnaldo Torres (Caribe)
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Magoo, how do they manage a tire with this gas inside?, or do they even try at all? I don't care too much about the tire, I just want to be able to use my wheel again. Any experience? Are there non-flammable types around? or would it be better to get it flat-bed for service? | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
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Arnaldo, The chemicals and propellant in the inflatable tire repair are combustible. When the tire is broken down, a spark from a cigarrette or metal tool etc. could ignite the gas. This is why they say to inform the tire repair person that you used the inflator repair. | ||
| Frederick Thomas (Fred)
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I have no idea if this is true but I have heard you should not use fix-a-flat in Z rated tires. | ||
| David Jones (Dave)
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Or you could try this.... Buy a dozen really cheap cars, and park them strategically around town. Then if you ever have car problems you always have a spare "car" near..... Hmmm I think maybe it's time to stop hitting the hookah....  | ||
| Arnaldo Torres (Caribe)
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I also carry around those Tire repair spray cans on my Testarossa. I have never used one, but I have heard that they are not good for your tire (get a flat and use the can, means replacing tire which might not be a bad idea anyway). Is this true? Any real experiences with these tire repair cans? Also, I heard that they could be harmful to the person removing the tire from the rim. I was told to let them know before they start so that they can treat it accordingly. | ||
| Christiank (Christiank)
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Willis: OK, sorry that makes sense. I did not want to offend you. Christian | ||
| Kurt Kjelgaard (Kurtk328)
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I thought the Modena is carrying a can of puncture repair instead of a complete wheel? I keep one in all my cars, next to the sparewheel. It's an alternative to changing a wheel at an inconvenient place or in bad weather. Of course, if the tire is ripped or severely cut, this won't work. Anyway, if you leave the nail in the tire and use a "can of repair" you should be able to - carefully - drive for quite a long time. Of course keeping an eye on the situation and getting the tire repaired as soon as possible. | ||
| Willis Huang (Willis360)
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Ummm..Before anyone start to go off in different tangents about my situation, here are some explanations. First, I called the Ferrari Roadside Assistance number and I got cut off. Not a very encouraging first sign. I then called the dealer to see if they have any alternatives and they suggested I call Roadside Assistance again. The call finally went through after 2 tries and a flat bed truck was sent out to take the car to the dealer. Roadside Assistance was told to take all Ferraris to the dealer. Second, the tire in question had enough air in it and I was pretty close to my home anyway so taking the car off off a street with blind spots would be the prudent thing to do. Having a nearly brand new Modena rear-ended by someone flying around the corner is not a risk I want to take. Third, calling 911 in this small situation didn't seem warranted. Also, they might sent out a tow truck guy who doesn't know what they're doing and damage my car. Finally, the only sure thing is to check the tires often, which I do before and after every run. That, obviously, didn't prevented what happened yesterday. | ||
| Martin (Miami348ts)
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Hey, if I have no spare in my car I would be calling a tow truck as well. No need to break a $1000 rim in the process of avoiding the embaracement of havng your car on a flat-bed. | ||
| Martin (Miami348ts)
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Hey, I am German. I can hit on the French. That is a national sport! I know what you mean. Just the thought of a Trabant going more than 18 Miles is funny, none the less 180. I assume the wind shield will break at those speeds.... Hey you can always put a Firestone on the car...causes roll-overs but no nails! Just kidding! | ||
| Christiank (Christiank)
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Martin: I wrote: everybody else should drive a Trabant. Could mean, Chrysler Neon. A tire never comes apart just like that, a nail is fairly easy to handle on a rear wheel drive car if the nail is in one rear tire. I am sure that I could easily handle that, even at 180 mph. Michelin are good tires, what does that trust the French mean? The Americans are so nationalistic but think it/s a good sport hitting at other countries. I am not aware of any good tire manufacturer in the States, so you have to trust the French, Japanese, Germans etc if you want to run a good tire. I think this story is really amusing without knowing the person. Having to bring the car to a dealer (probably Ferrari dealer and not tire dealer) because of a flat tire and calling a tow truck (?). Hope he did not forget to call 911. Haha Christian | ||
| Martin (Miami348ts)
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Christian, I had no idea a Trabant can go 180 Miles! LOL Here is a good Dragster Project! As far as a flat. I am not sure that I want to experience that either at high speed. Riding on Michelins means trusting the French........no way! I remember when I was going 190Mph in a Testatossa on the Autobahn and all I could think of was why I am smiling and what will happen if the tire blows. | ||
| Frederick Thomas (Fred)
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I personaly would not want to be driving at high speed and have a tire go out. I would think it a big deal! | ||
| Willis Huang (Willis360)
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Sorry if I wasn't explicit enough about my speed in my first post, guys. | ||
| Christiank (Christiank)
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If you go 180mph and this happens - no problem for a good driver who does not panic. Everybody else should drive a Trabant. | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
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Sorry, You say that you weren't going over 40 miles per hour when this occured. Don't worry about it, you experienced the same thing my wife did 2 wks. ago, she had a flat tire. | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
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Willis, Tony and I had no way of knowing what kind of neighborhood you were in or what your speed was at that time. However, as long as tires have air in them and as long as they are vulnerable to road hazards they will deflate at any speed when punctured. As all of us know you can have a flat tire at anytime. Just be prepared for it. We were just trying to suggest to you that a flat tire isn't the worst thing that could happen to you. | ||
| Willis Huang (Willis360)
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My car came with Michelin Pilots. I don't want to find out if my car, or any car, will do high speed runs on 3 wheels no matter what brand of tire it's wearing. Luckily, I was still in suburban streets and didn't exceed 40 MPH when this happened. With the freeway onramp about 100 yards away, the most prudent thing is to stop, check for damages, and get the heck out of there if you can (so you don't cause a scene). | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
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Tony, My thoughts exactly. No need to panic. With that wheel and tire design he would have known that there was a problem. | ||
| Tony Brooker (Tony355f1)
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I thinkn you'd have had plenty of warning before "disintegration" takes place. You would have heard the difference. It's when you slow down that it becomes really apparant that there's a problem. I also thought it was very difficult for the Pirellis to "shred". And is'nt the 360 & 355 designed to be able to run on 3 wheels at high speed to give you time to slow down? | ||
| Willis Huang (Willis360)
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The sky cleared up a bit this afternoon so I decided to take my Modena for a spin. As I approached the freeway entrance, the car start to lurch and the rear end sagged. There was a nail in my right rear tire. ARRRRGH!!! My house is only about a mile away so I limped back to get a tow truck. By the time I stopped in the driveway, the tire had deflated completely and on the rim. The car is now at the dealer to be looked over. If I had gone into the freeway and the tire comes apart at high speed, I probably would not be here to type this. |