| Author | Message | ||
| PSk (Psk)
Member Username: Psk Post Number: 856 Registered: 11-2002 |
Just buy another brand ... after all if you were going to track it, you would buy other brands anyway. The wire is a gizmo piece of unnecassary rubbish that modern cars have on them to waste our money and pretend that they are up on the technology. Just go down to your local Ferodo brake supplier with the old pads and they will find something that has the same back plate. Then order a DS11 compound set and you will be fine. Don't let Ferrari rip you off yet again, after all they just buy a 'generic' brand of pad ... and stick it in Ferrari packaging  , and times the price by 10  Pete | ||
| Heiko (Hgparts)
Junior Member Username: Hgparts Post Number: 149 Registered: 3-2003 |
hi guy here are the ferodo brake pad prices i can make you 348/355 front or rear DS2000 $185 348/355 front or rear DS2500 $149 348/355 front or rear DS3000 $204 348/355 front or rear DS3000plus $234 360 front or rear DS2000 $155 360 front or rear DS2500 $135 360 front or rear DS3000 $165 360 front or rear DS3000plus $191 all prices plus shipping hgparts sponsor of the ferrari.chat | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Intermediate Member Username: T88power Post Number: 1638 Registered: 2-2001 |
Dan, awesome pic in your profile! Ernesto | ||
| john beaucher (Spider348)
Junior Member Username: Spider348 Post Number: 90 Registered: 11-2002 |
Have used Porterfield Racing R-4S Carbon Kevlar High Performance Street pads on my 308, TR and 930's. Great performance, reduced dusting etc. Available for 355 front and rear for $89 per set in the 2002 catalog. | ||
| Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
Intermediate Member Username: Hugh Post Number: 1182 Registered: 1-2002 |
Dave: Awesome! yah, andie really goes the distance. I spent 30 minutes on the phone with him talking about my set - up , and not once did he pitch a sales line; just a car guy. Good to hear that you like the pad... I've faded the panthers, and the mu on the vr is .12 better than the panther plus pads. I can't wait. Braking power gets me all giddy; I think I like braking hard almost more than I do accelerating. | ||
| Dave (Maranelloman)
Intermediate Member Username: Maranelloman Post Number: 2426 Registered: 1-2002 |
Hubert, I am using the Cobalt GTS VR pads on the fronts of my M3, after using DS3000's before that. I like the Cobalt pads much better, actually, and they are also much easier on my rotors. I use the DS2500's in the rear, until Cobalt starts making rear pads in that formula, too. Andie is great! | ||
| Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
Intermediate Member Username: Hugh Post Number: 1181 Registered: 1-2002 |
I would HIGHLY reccomend andie at cobaltfriction and matt and carbotech. I've used carbotechs religiously (panther plus and xp compounds), and am now going to try the cobalt line of pads (just out of curiousity); I have used the ds3000s before , and loved them, but will try the cobat gt-r spec vr pad; $ 800 for pads is insane. There's MUCH better stuff out there. For a lot less. PS: stay away from EBC pads. | ||
| Mitch Alsup (Mitch_alsup)
Member Username: Mitch_alsup Post Number: 924 Registered: 4-2002 |
Peter: Yes, I really like the DS2500s. Good initial bite, higher coefficient of friction lets you lay into them when the time comes to SHED speed, and they take 150-175dC more temperature than the Ferrari stock pads. Anything more and I would be boiling the (new) brake fluid (ATE superBlue). If you dont' abuse them on the back roads, they don't even squeel. IF they start to squeel, just take them to the track and remove the outer 1mm of the pad surface--presto--instant quiet pad. | ||
| Peter S�derlund /328 GTB -88 (Corsa)
Member Username: Corsa Post Number: 347 Registered: 4-2001 |
Hi Mitch. I also use Ferodo DS2500. Haven�t been on track with them yet, though. This is a really bed track year for me :-( They give quite a good feed back and it is easy to find the limit, which is a good thing whey you don't have ABS. I am actually very satisfied with them so far. Have you any opinion about DS2500 compared to other pad or any further info about them to share? Ciao Peter | ||
| Mitch Alsup (Mitch_alsup)
Member Username: Mitch_alsup Post Number: 918 Registered: 4-2002 |
The Ferrari pads on my F355 were ~$800, and would fade at the track. I am currently using Ferrodo DS2500 pads at ~$500 and these (almost) don't fade at the track (TWS in the heat of summer). Because I have been at the track 15 times this year alone, I am only getting 2500 miles on a set of pads (2 sets this year alone). I should mention that these DS2500s are streetable pads down here in Texas, but would not be too much farther north in the winter time. If you replace your pads BEFORE the brake indicator on the pannel comes on, you don't have to replace the electronic thingamabob. I have a spare set from the last Ferrari set of pads. | ||
| Dave (Maranelloman)
Intermediate Member Username: Maranelloman Post Number: 2415 Registered: 1-2002 |
Go to tirerack.com or cobaltfriction.com, not the dealer. | ||
| Dan 360 (Dan360)
Junior Member Username: Dan360 Post Number: 105 Registered: 2-2003 |
PS At least I got a good story out of spending 1K... | ||
| Dan 360 (Dan360)
Junior Member Username: Dan360 Post Number: 104 Registered: 2-2003 |
I should point out at this juncture that I did realize that this was not the best available deal. But given I'm going to LimeRock tomorrow, sourcing non-stock pads was one admin task too far... I was worrying about how to get my new 360 challenge wheels and slick tires down there... :-) Rest assured, I shall be searching for cheaper pads next time. But this does make me think about the 360CS that is coming in the spring... I wonder if the new rotors for that are also going to be 33K! Maybe I should talk to my wife about getting a jet ranger ... :-) | ||
| TC (Houston) (Tec)
Junior Member Username: Tec Post Number: 186 Registered: 2-2002 |
Dennis, that is a steal on pads! I forgot to add. The last weekend I was at the track I tripped the brake wear sensor. I finished the session and I pulled the front wheels to have a look. What did I see? At least 25-30% of the pads left!!! I drove 2 more sessions, a few hundred more street miles, and then swapped them out. | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Intermediate Member Username: T88power Post Number: 1632 Registered: 2-2001 |
www.tirerack.com  | ||
| Malcolm West (Ferrari_uk_tech)
New member Username: Ferrari_uk_tech Post Number: 14 Registered: 7-2003 |
For info Enzo brake pads in the UK cost 1230 USD for the fronts and 1100 USD for the rears (parts only), for 33,000 USD I'd expect a set of rotors to ! | ||
| Dennis (Bighead)
Junior Member Username: Bighead Post Number: 181 Registered: 2-2003 |
Dan, I agree with TC. The "electronic sensor gizmo" is just a wire that grounds when the pad depth gets too low, thereby triggering the brake light in the dash. Most cars have the wire and warning system built into the brakes, and not the pad; when you replace the pad, it just clips into the new pad. Aftermarket pads may not have a place into which to clip the sensor. Just tie the wire back against something, and periodically check your brake pads to make sure you have enough left (which you'd be doing anyway because you track your car). Also, many manufacturers consider worn brake pads in 9k miles to be covered under warranty - I know several people that have successfully made that claim, and gotten new pads/rotors. Lastly, $1k for pads? Are you completely INSANE? Go aftermarket. Stock 355 pads for my car was something ridiculous. I just ordered another set of Performance Friction, PFC-97 pads for my car - it's a combo street/track pad. I've been using them for a couple of years, and they work great on both the street and the track. There are also other manufacturers, and I would be surprised if there was nothing available for the 360. I paid $109 for a SET (two sets needed). Really quite a bargain (in part because they're the same-sized pads that Porsche used in the 944 Turbo). Heck, even cheaper than the PFC-97 pads for the 996! vty, --Dennis | ||
| JRV (Jrvall)
Intermediate Member Username: Jrvall Post Number: 2098 Registered: 11-2002 |
>>So that is approximately 0.1USD per mile for brake pads. << Ferraris have "historically" cost approx. $0.25c per mile to own & operate. One defineing characteristic of Ultra Exclusive Autos has always been more than mere buyin price, like any exclusive Country Club there is also the DUES. | ||
| TC (Houston) (Tec)
Junior Member Username: Tec Post Number: 183 Registered: 2-2002 |
Are there any other suppliers that make pads to fit? I replaced the stock brembo pads on my Porsche with Pagids. They are a little grippier than the stock pads (don't know yet about longevity). I lost the sensors by going aftermarket (could have drilled a hole for them), but IMHO the sensor thing is sort of silly unless you are really disconnected from the maintenance aspect of the car. Anyone who uses the brakes hard with regularity should take a look at the pads and rotors often. | ||
| Pat Pasqualini (Enzo)
Member Username: Enzo Post Number: 827 Registered: 2-2002 |
Do the brake pads really cost them that much to make? I mean come on A grand for brake pads that would mean that it possibly cost them 700-800 dollars to make them. Or are they just taking their customers to the cleaners? | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Senior Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 5467 Registered: 5-2001 |
Hey you could have used your ENZO and those need replacement at 1200 Miles at the cost of $ 33,000, which is $27.50 per MIles or in your daily commute a mere $ 1,100 a day ! You could have flown by helicopter! | ||
| Dan 360 (Dan360)
Junior Member Username: Dan360 Post Number: 103 Registered: 2-2003 |
Was reading the somewhat out of control "Ferrari and Income" thread and thought I'd post an interesting revelation about my daily drive to work/back and the use of brake pads. Just replaced my brake pads at 9200 miles on my 360. Cost for new set was circa 1000 USD - they have some electronic sensor gizmo thus justifying the somewhat *high* cost. So that is approximately 0.1USD per mile for brake pads. My drive to work is about 20 miles, so a 40 mile round trip costs me 4USD in brake pads alone! NB the train from where I live to Boston costs 3USD :-) |