| Author | Message | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 899 Registered: 6-2002 |
The one i looked at was not a rental, and owned by a woman. It is an 86, with 52000 miles, speedo was replaced at i believe 18,000 miles according to her. Car certainly needs work, but mechanicly seems to be ok. I choose to pass on it, since if i really wanted a 328, id just buy a prime example and save myself any headaches. She had the car listed at 26900, and said 26500 over the phone, im sure the car can be bought cheaper. Interior is original, albeit worn. | ||
| John Striegel (John328)
New member Username: John328 Post Number: 28 Registered: 1-2003 |
Could this be a rental Ferrari in Hawaii ?, Whats that saying, where a 4 wheel drive truck can't go, a rental ferrari can ?? | ||
| Antony R Chapman (Antonio888)
New member Username: Antonio888 Post Number: 34 Registered: 5-2002 |
Erik, no such thing as a cheap F car - follow your dream and wait for a 308 that's worth it - unless you like lots of stress. | ||
| dave handa (Davehanda)
Intermediate Member Username: Davehanda Post Number: 1506 Registered: 5-2001 |
Michael, Have you read the thread? This is obviously a "storied" car with questionable EVERYTHING...this is not the one. | ||
| Michael C. James (Mjames)
Junior Member Username: Mjames Post Number: 64 Registered: 6-2003 |
I'd love to have a 328 for $25K, provided it was strong mechanically and cosmetically....if everyone wants to pass, can someone send me some photos and a phone number? | ||
| Ken (Allyn)
Intermediate Member Username: Allyn Post Number: 1103 Registered: 10-2001 |
I'd pass. First off, I can almost guarantee it's got serious rust issues. And this car has a story (owner owes money); any Ferrari with a story is a bad sign. Hell, a BMW with a story is a bad idea! As others have said, you get what you pay for and a better condition car for more money will save you in both the short and long run. | ||
| Ken A (Zff)
Junior Member Username: Zff Post Number: 117 Registered: 12-2002 |
Erik, if the car is on Oahu, I can bring my digital camera with me and check it out for you. I'm certainly no mechanic, but I think I could make some reasonably educated observations... or at the very least, take a lot of pictures.  Don't worry about me trying to steal the deal away from under you. I already know what the missus will say if I tell her I want to upgrade the 308 less than a year after buying it. Did this owner try to sell the car locally? Althought I don't look for used Ferraris as feverishly as I did before I bought mine, I generally keep an eye out and I haven't seen a 328 here recently. | ||
| Henryk (Henryk)
Intermediate Member Username: Henryk Post Number: 1030 Registered: 8-2001 |
Erik: Granted, $25K sounds cheap for a 328. However, if you can't afford things like $1.5K flywheels, $1K clutch jobs, $2K brake jobs,.....etc, etc.......and I am just talking about parts, then you shouldn't buy the car.....even at $25K. | ||
| Erik Lombard (Elombard)
New member Username: Elombard Post Number: 36 Registered: 9-2001 |
Uhh Richard, Not sure what your saying? No I havent seen pictures, I am not sure of which mechanics she owes money too. Ken If I decide to go forward I may ask for some other mechanics names. | ||
| dave handa (Davehanda)
Intermediate Member Username: Davehanda Post Number: 1493 Registered: 5-2001 |
$25k 328's? In Hawaii of all places? And no one there will buy this "bargain"?....Gee have IQ's suddenly just taken a big drop in Hawaii? Or is this just such a stinker of a deal it takes a "haole" from the mainland to buy it? | ||
| Richard Ward (Lomotpk)
Junior Member Username: Lomotpk Post Number: 78 Registered: 5-2003 |
That's different that the usual "get a PPI" advice... | ||
| L. (Testaroja)
Junior Member Username: Testaroja Post Number: 92 Registered: 5-2003 |
If a broad farts in your face would you go down on her? If this car's history stinks and you dont own it yet, imagine when it seats in your garage. Unless you like farting ladies, then this one is promising to •••• and smile at you while you jump from toe to toe right and left and blow me sideways with a smile on her face on a bad datura trip pal. | ||
| Ken A (Zff)
Junior Member Username: Zff Post Number: 116 Registered: 12-2002 |
Erik, I live in Hawaii and a few years ago, I looked at a red/tan '87 328 GTS. Have you seen pictures of this car, specifically the interior? The one I looked at had a customized interior that just wasn't my cup of tea. Which Ferrari mechanics aren't willing to PPI the car? Just Ferrari of Hawaii (on Beretania St.)? There *are* other mechanics. | ||
| V.Z. (Ama328)
Junior Member Username: Ama328 Post Number: 220 Registered: 11-2002 |
hey, lien, no lien, either call up or go by and visit the DMV in Hawaii and have 'em check the EXACT CURRENT status of the title... (BEFORE $$ change hands, righto?) Fly home and have the title processed in your home state the next day. Should minimize(won't completely eliminate) possibly of a lien or scam. Better yet, if you're REALLY paranoid, make some kind of arrangement with an escrow service/bank to hold the vehicle until a clean title makes it through your state's DMV processing. | ||
| Erik Lombard (Elombard)
New member Username: Elombard Post Number: 35 Registered: 9-2001 |
I was thinking that the mechanic might get the car in his shop and not release it until the funds are paid or something? Your right I guess that would not be my concern, might as well get the PPI | ||
| Bill Steele (Glassman)
Member Username: Glassman Post Number: 330 Registered: 4-2002 |
Jeff, You may be right, however my point is that only an idiot would file a lien on an automobile. It sound's simple to "sieze" the car and sell it at auction to pay the oustanding bills, however it is really not that simple. Have you ever filed a lien on anything? I have, and the property that my company liened for non payment for services rendered was sold with a lien on it! In addition, I was sued by the homeowner for slander of title, ( we put some information on the lien form on the wrong line- therefore the lien was invalid- therefore we slandered the non paying Homeowners good name) and as hard as it is to believe, he won! The fact of the matter is that I would buy the car, the Mechanic can not successfully come after the next owner, and if he tries to I say BRING IT ON! | ||
| jeff ryerson (Atheyg)
Member Username: Atheyg Post Number: 342 Registered: 8-2002 |
Mechanics Liens are commonplace, if the customer defaults on the signed and agreed work estimate the shop owner files a lien on the the car and it is sold at public auction to satisfy the debt owed, the remaider of proceeds if any go to the lien holder on the title The winning purchaser at auction receives a clean new title from the DMV | ||
| Bill Steele (Glassman)
Member Username: Glassman Post Number: 329 Registered: 4-2002 |
The term Mechanics Lien has nothing to do with Mechanics. Someone who performed work on a car can sue the owner or the customer who ordered the work, but I have never heard of anyone being able to file a lien on an automobile. If work was done and not paid for the Mechanic would take the owner to small claims court. | ||
| jeff ryerson (Atheyg)
Member Username: Atheyg Post Number: 341 Registered: 8-2002 |
The one Allan F was looking at was Red/Black and owned by a lady, sounds like the same car he was supposedly buying for 26500 The story doesn't make sense, if money is owed on this car via mechanical work then Mechanics Liens have been filed and they will own the car Why would they care about a new PPI of they are getting paid? They have a grudge against the car itself? Get Real | ||
| Tyson Hall (Trhall)
Junior Member Username: Trhall Post Number: 189 Registered: 6-2003 |
Go with your gut on this one Erik. Sounds like a great deal. | ||
| Erik Lombard (Elombard)
New member Username: Elombard Post Number: 34 Registered: 9-2001 |
I still think it might be the car. My brother might have his info. backwards, he lives down the street from this lady. Can there be that many red 328 gts' in Hawaii? | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Moderator Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 2211 Registered: 8-2002 |
That's more like it. | ||
| Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
Advanced Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 2538 Registered: 4-2002 |
BETTER WAYNE?? | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Moderator Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 2210 Registered: 8-2002 |
Thanks. I mean, THANKS. | ||
| Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
Advanced Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 2537 Registered: 4-2002 |
ups it about 2 weeks ago, ill check the tracking # monday.. bruce | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Moderator Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 2209 Registered: 8-2002 |
Bruce, not yet. BTW, you must've hit the "Caps Lock" key by mistake. | ||
| Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
Advanced Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 2536 Registered: 4-2002 |
wayne get my package?? bruce | ||
| Andrew-Phillip Goalen (Andrewg)
Member Username: Andrewg Post Number: 256 Registered: 9-2002 |
Thanks Wayne, My mistake | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Moderator Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 2208 Registered: 8-2002 |
The Hawaiian car was an '86 with 52,000 miles. | ||
| Andrew-Phillip Goalen (Andrewg)
Member Username: Andrewg Post Number: 252 Registered: 9-2002 |
Erik This is the thread, if it is the same car Allan's opinon on its condition may be of use http://www.ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/21/295452.html?1059599295 | ||
| Erik Lombard (Elombard)
New member Username: Elombard Post Number: 33 Registered: 9-2001 |
It may be the Hawaiian car. It is in Hawaii. Can you point me to the thread? | ||
| Jeff B. (Miltonian)
Member Username: Miltonian Post Number: 485 Registered: 12-2002 |
It MAY be a great opportunity. Maybe she took the car to several shops hoping to get something fixed on the cheap, and the mechanics did the "stiffing". MAYBE it has some simple problems that you can fix yourself. That's exactly what happened with my 348. No records at all. Had a lot of problems when I test drove it. Made an offer about $10,000 less than the seller was asking, and they took the money. Fixed everything here in my own garage. Yes, the car is worth more with records. No, it isn't mandatory. But cover your ass, find out as much as possible before you take the plunge. And don't expect to make a lot of money off the deal! | ||
| Andrew-Phillip Goalen (Andrewg)
Member Username: Andrewg Post Number: 251 Registered: 9-2002 |
Erik, this isnt the Hawaian caqr Allan F was looking at is it? | ||
| Ken Thomas (Future328driver)
Member Username: Future328driver Post Number: 501 Registered: 12-2001 |
If the woman owes money to the mechanincs, you had better make sure that their are no mechanics liens placed on the car. I would pass on this one. | ||
| Erik Lombard (Elombard)
New member Username: Elombard Post Number: 32 Registered: 9-2001 |
Sorry for the confusion, money is owed by the current owner. Who is a woman (if that matters). The current owner is not aware of the records, she has a few reciepts but I wont know what is there until I go look. Its a long haul to go out there so I am hoping for some advice before I go. | ||
| Jeff B. (Miltonian)
Member Username: Miltonian Post Number: 483 Registered: 12-2002 |
This doesn't make sense - money owed by who? If it's money owed by the current owner, then it must have had work done and should have records available, or the work wasn't completed and the car needs more than a 30K service. Did the seller come right out and say "Hey, I stiffed every Ferrari mechanic within 100 miles of here."?? Then he'll be happy to stiff you, too. | ||
| Jack (Gilles27)
Intermediate Member Username: Gilles27 Post Number: 1230 Registered: 3-2002 |
Erik, look at it this way: You can buy this car for $25K and immediately spend $15K or so to make it current, or you can take the same amount of money and shop for a model that you will be able to drive and enjoy as soon as it's delivered. You will tend to find that prices for used Ferraris are pretty accurately tiered to represent their condition (barring the scumbags who try to overprice a lemon), and by all means, you will get what you pay for. | ||
| Erik Lombard (Elombard)
New member Username: Elombard Post Number: 31 Registered: 9-2001 |
I have an opportunity to buy an 87 328 with 32K miles for $25K. It runs good and looks great. Heres' the kickers - I must assume no records are available and the owner lives on an island where all of the Ferrari mechanics are pissed because of money owed. So a PPI is probably out of the question. I am pretty good mechanic and I think I could do most of the PPI myself. I am assuming it will need the 30K service immediately. Should I run? I really dream of a 308 GTB so its not my first choice but I thought I could tinker and get the records up to date and sell. Then find the 308 I am looking for. TIA |