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| RockStar (Remix)
Junior Member Username: Remix Post Number: 62 Registered: 3-2003 |
Testaroja's right. I kept all of my duPonts from back in the late 80s until the mid 90s and recently threw them out. The white TR was DEFINITELY in there if I recall. I remember this being AFTER the USA Network contest, so it's possible someone flipped it right away. REMIX | ||
| Steve M (Steve308gtsi)
Junior Member Username: Steve308gtsi Post Number: 133 Registered: 5-2002 |
It seems to me that any dealer in Florida that gets a white TR says its from Miami Vice. I stoped at a dealership while in Florida not too long ago and they had a white TR that I was interested in. I listened to the salesmean tell me how this car was the one in Miami Vice etc.. Boy he picked the wrong person to tell that story to. I am a huge Miami Vice fan. The car was a 1990 and when I told him the series last episode aired May 21, 1989 he seemed kind of shocked and embarressed that I knew that. | ||
| L. (Testaroja)
Junior Member Username: Testaroja Post Number: 94 Registered: 5-2003 |
I dont know of any drawings or any like that, Im not saying that it isnt true, but the miami vice tr. was for sale at one time in miami at prestige imports and it was there for a long while. Even dupont registry showed the prestige ad. After that I dont know what happened with that car. This was in late 80s or early 90s. | ||
| David S (Djs308)
Junior Member Username: Djs308 Post Number: 166 Registered: 9-2002 |
Hey, I entered the same contest! No, I didn't win the TR either but at least I tried. Yeah....it would've been really nice to win it though. | ||
| RockStar (Remix)
Junior Member Username: Remix Post Number: 59 Registered: 3-2003 |
Back around 1989 or so, when USA network picked up the reruns of MV, they gave the white TR away in a drawing. I know because I entered like 10 times. REMIX | ||
| Brian W (Jetx)
Junior Member Username: Jetx Post Number: 71 Registered: 6-2003 |
>> recall they gave Stallone one or two ferraris at cost with a factory delivery. << Actually it was Lamborghini, and my recollection was they gave them to him free of charge. As a way of saying "thank you" he put both cars (a red Countach and a black Jalpa) in his movie (Rocky IV). There is a scene where he is washing his Jalpa and you can glimpse the Countach in the driveway. Later he is scene driving the Jalpa while visualizing fighting Drago. | ||
| GThomas (Ferrariartist)
Junior Member Username: Ferrariartist Post Number: 186 Registered: 2-2003 |
V.Z. ....that wouldve been REAL cool.. something noone would expect thats for sure... Crockett didnt let ANYONE drive the Ferrari - Daytona or TR... he was most protective of it to the point of selfishness... i remember the episode where he meets Sheena Easton's character - hes given a milk-run assignment to be her bodyguard... not something he liked to begin with.. babysitting some spoiled rock star... but the two didnt exactly hit it off at the start... the scene where they both walk towards the TR he has the keys out in his hands and she has the ODACITY to snatch them and say "i'll drive" Crockett immediatly snatches them back and replies "not in your WILDEST dreams, lady" and leads her around to the passenger side.. "whats wrong ? Dont you ever let a woman drive your 'testosteroni', Crockett? "Thats TesteROSSA darling.... and NOONE drives this but me..." definitly shows how protective of it he was... probably 99% of it was the fact it was an awesome car and 1% he didnt actually own it ... (he goes into this himself when Sheena drills him alittle to hard about his easy lifestlye driving expesive cars all day.. in a rare show of emotion about his cover-job he goes on about what his take-home pay really his and the fact that the car and clothes on his back are owned by the city and are loaned to him for the job... its then the two start to let down their guard and see the person behind the marketed-facade as for the car... the department WOULD expect it back intact... not that any repairs would come out of his paycheck but he would probably have some big-time explaining to do.... by the way... when you really think about... just how sensible would such a flashy car BE for a cover job.. after the first big take-down i think word would get around that a white TR was an undercover cop car... and the first sight of it at the next meet the bad guys would think twice... but in true Hollywood fashion... they never do... and they are ALWAYS lousy shots.... GT | ||
| Terry (Dogue)
Member Username: Dogue Post Number: 371 Registered: 9-2001 |
Interesting if Enzo gave this car to him it must have been from the grave or the death bed, as Enzo Died in August 14, 1988. This car is listed as a 1989, I think Ferrari does not designate a "1989 model" until 1989, unlike most car companies that come out with the next year model in july or august. Even if I am wrong and they do call a car built in the last quarter of 1988 a "1989 Model year" I think Enzo still had a little more on his mind than giving a car to Don Johnson. Plus I had heard that Enzo never gave a car to anyone. http://www.barrett-jackson.com/auctionresults/common/cardetail.asp?id=172947 | ||
| Jeff Howe (Ferrari_uk)
Member Username: Ferrari_uk Post Number: 474 Registered: 12-2002 |
Found this... http://www.showgo.com/storytest.cfm?story_id=2094 | ||
| V.Z. (Ama328)
Junior Member Username: Ama328 Post Number: 224 Registered: 11-2002 |
GThomas, i know that exact series ending scene you referred to, is pretty good ending...i always thought it woulda been neater tho, if, when walking towards the TR, Crockett tosses the keys to Tubbs and says sumpin' like "Why don't you drive, for once". Woulda been a nice twist right at the end. The producers had the sterotypes/casting/image down so tightly that you *never* saw anybody driving anybody else's wheels, when you know damn well they'd have traded off a bit, just for grins. | ||
| James J. McGee (Dr_ferrari)
Junior Member Username: Dr_ferrari Post Number: 149 Registered: 7-2002 |
Yea, he does not seem the type to puff it up, and I don`t think he would say that on National TV if it wasn`t somewhat true. I`ve just never heard of the factory doing that but then again, they may not let me know....  I recall they gave Stallone one or two ferraris at cost with a factory delivery. Best regards, Jim | ||
| Jeffrey Wolfe (86mondial32)
Member Username: 86mondial32 Post Number: 408 Registered: 5-2003 |
Agreed James... and as for puffing it up... He was very open about his other cars. He is not a gear head but does like fine autos. BTW he also owned the Caddie used in the movie 3000 miles to Graceland. It seemed that what he knew about cars could fill a small pamphlet but he does like a "smooth" ride. His knowlege of food, wine and cigars was very extensive. | ||
| James J. McGee (Dr_ferrari)
Junior Member Username: Dr_ferrari Post Number: 148 Registered: 7-2002 |
When the factory "gives" you a car at cost, That can be concidered a gift. Regards, Jim | ||
| william speer (Wspeer)
Member Username: Wspeer Post Number: 281 Registered: 8-2002 |
let's see, hmmmmm. should we believe don or not? i heard him say that the car was a gift from enzo ferrari on the speed channel interview. you tell me, can that be true. i understand puffing the story of the car up, but that doesn't make it true. | ||
| Jeffrey Wolfe (86mondial32)
Member Username: 86mondial32 Post Number: 402 Registered: 5-2003 |
Speaking as a VERY die hard fan.. The TR's were real with the exception of one "stunt" car that was built over a pantera. You can always tell by the amount of lift over the wheel wells. AS for the "gift" car.. That is a true story. We talked with Don at Barret Jackson and he was given the car by Ferrari and took delivery at the factory. Don loves Italy and goes often twice a year. | ||
| James J. McGee (Dr_ferrari)
Junior Member Username: Dr_ferrari Post Number: 144 Registered: 7-2002 |
Andy, nice thread, that story there is pretty much all true. The original Daytona spider was a fake, Ferrari who at the time was going after all those fake car makers for copyright infringment, set their sights on the show taking them to court. from what I understand, settlement was that they had to stop using the car and it had to be destroyed. Miami vice in true showmanship form, destroyed the car in a season final episode. Ferrari then agree to let them use two black replacement REAL Testarossas which they repainted as said White for night photography. At the end of the series, the cars were returned to FNA posession, repaired, and then resold. whereabouts unknown. As for the silver TR, I don`t believe it was a gift, maybe from the show or maybe the factory gave it to him for a good price, but I quite sure FNA did not give it to him. Thats about all I know about it, Best regards, Jim | ||
| william speer (Wspeer)
Member Username: Wspeer Post Number: 280 Registered: 8-2002 |
i find it hard to believe that in the late eighties, ferrari felt gratitude to anyone for showing their cars to the public. cars were trading at 3-4 times the msrp and ferrari couldn't keep up with production. i doubt anyone received a free ferrari. especially an actor that was just on a tv show that featured the car. frankly, i am amazed that they gave the show cars. if it wasn't for the lawsuit involving the "knock-off" cars, that probably wouldn't have even happened. true it was exposure to the general public, and better than to have porsche do it, or even worse lamborghini. but still, to think they would have given don johnson a free car as a THANK YOU!!!!!!! please, at least make the story believable. | ||
| dave handa (Davehanda)
Intermediate Member Username: Davehanda Post Number: 1491 Registered: 5-2001 |
William, "personal gift from FNA" might be a more believable story....I agree with you. | ||
| william speer (Wspeer)
Member Username: Wspeer Post Number: 278 Registered: 8-2002 |
the actual car in the tv show was for sale around a year or two ago. i believe it was listed in auto week. the car at barrett-jackson, was the personal car of don johnson. there is/was some controversy regarding the car in that the story has always been that the car was a personal gift from enzo ferrari. one big problem, at the time of delivery, enzo had been dead for quite some time. i also don't understand why enzo, after a lifetime a treating celebrities/royalty/well-off people with such disdain, would fall all over himself to thank don johnson for the success of the tr in miami vice. | ||
| Steve M (Steve308gtsi)
Junior Member Username: Steve308gtsi Post Number: 132 Registered: 5-2002 |
The TR that Don Johnson sold at Barret Jackson was his "silver" personal car. It was supposedly a gift from Ferrari for getting the TR so popular on the show. When the first TR arrived for taping of the show it was black. After doing some test shots they said the black TR didn't show up well on screen. They then had the car painted white. They said the white TR showed up much better for filming. I wonder what happened to the actual show TR ? | ||
| L. (Testaroja)
Junior Member Username: Testaroja Post Number: 90 Registered: 5-2003 |
Don Johnson sold one of his testarossas at the barret jackson last year, it was a silver car. I also went to Prestige Imports in miami where they were selling miami vice white testarossa, it was a real ferrari. Theres a story that this car was factory black color but then it was painted white because the producers wanted the car to show at the night scenes | ||
| Andy Klueber (Adk)
New member Username: Adk Post Number: 8 Registered: 1-2003 |
Here's a link to the story. What Ferraris appeared on Miami Vice? http://www.ferrariclub.com/faq/miamivice.html The episode all this happen was called Irish Eyes. Yours, Andy K. | ||
| GThomas (Ferrariartist)
Junior Member Username: Ferrariartist Post Number: 184 Registered: 2-2003 |
The TR is fake in any scene where its driven hard - more than just freeway speeds... doughnuts, stunts, too close to explosions.. things like that... (insurance reasons no doubt) - one of the things that usually give it away are these wrong - really wrong! - rims especially the rear ones... they are chrome! the rears are really set-in as well.... just saw one of the fakes today on an episode... the rear lower valence being all black as opposed to the proper body-colour white - was wrong as it pulled a 180 a took off away from the camera... they keep the shots pretty quick but every now and then they keep it on camera just a little too long and you get to study it... later Crockett was taking his son for a ride - letting him steer in an empty parking lot... had some nice shots of the real thing there... driving up to the house and parking... stuff like that... i like how the series ended.. Tubbs and crockett always make some wry comment about the car thoughout the series ie.. when they got the TR crockett describes it -HP and price etc.. and Tubbs replies: "absolutly essential to any type of serious police work..." lines like that... anyways: The last scene .. they have both left the force.. the TR is parked near his boat and they are saying their goodbyes over the roof... Crockett: c;mon.. i'll give you a ride to the airport... Tubbs: why not? Crockett:... in my stolen car... they both laugh and get in.. drive away... voice over Crockett: Hey tubbs.. every consider a career in southern law enforcement? this line was classic as it echoed the last line of the very first episode where the 2 meet and Tubbs is from NYC nad they both drive away in the Daytona... very cool series... but they gotta do something about those clothes... (: GT | ||
| Jack (Gilles27)
Intermediate Member Username: Gilles27 Post Number: 1250 Registered: 3-2002 |
Rob, when you watch those Miami Vice marathons, the episodes begin to bleed together a bit. | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 5812 Registered: 12-2000 |
Hmm, I swear the Daytona and TR use to be in the same episodes. Maybe not, I was only a pre-teen then. | ||
| Jack (Gilles27)
Intermediate Member Username: Gilles27 Post Number: 1246 Registered: 3-2002 |
I know they used "dummy" frames for the show, but I hardly think it was "to appease the U.S. companies." Unless the U.S. company he meant was the studio that had to pay for all the repairs and upkeep. | ||
| Ryan Sabga (Sherpa23)
Junior Member Username: Sherpa23 Post Number: 61 Registered: 5-2003 |
I was at Shelton Ferrari as a kid when the MV series was running and in the service area there were two white TR's from the show. According to the sales guy who was helping us, one was a Pantera with a TR body. The other was real. | ||
| Jerry W. (Tork1966)
Member Username: Tork1966 Post Number: 855 Registered: 7-2001 |
I'll bet this guy meant a Daytona, not a TR because at first he told me it was a "Ferrari Spitfire". He did not know Ferraris very well but sounded very sincere. The man he was referring to is a respected doctor in the community, so I believe that they probably DO have a Daytona, it's just whether or not it is a Daytona from Miami Vice. | ||
| Richard Ward (Lomotpk)
Junior Member Username: Lomotpk Post Number: 75 Registered: 5-2003 |
If you remember in the show, the Daytona was blown up by a RPG at then end of one show/year and the White TR showed up next show/year. The rumors at the time was that Ferrari 'demanded' that the fake was destroyed on screen as part of the deal for giving the show X number of real TR's to play with. Is it true? I don't know but as with all good mis-information, it could be... | ||
| Aaron Williams (Aawil)
Member Username: Aawil Post Number: 272 Registered: 8-2002 |
I saw Don Johnson selling his white TR at Barrett Jackson. I think ferrari gave that one to him. | ||
| Ansgar Sch�rmeyer (Taunus)
Junior Member Username: Taunus Post Number: 244 Registered: 6-2002 |
They had a stunt-car on a non-Ferrari-frame. | ||
| Jim E (Jimpo1)
Intermediate Member Username: Jimpo1 Post Number: 2207 Registered: 7-2001 |
Sounds to me like someone doesn't know the difference between a Daytona and a TR. | ||
| Oldslow308 (Djparks)
Member Username: Djparks Post Number: 452 Registered: 2-2003 |
I heard of the black 'Daytona' on the Corvette chassis but never a TR. Can't see how they could get the front of a TR to cover a Chev 350 on a Corvette frame. | ||
| dave handa (Davehanda)
Intermediate Member Username: Davehanda Post Number: 1473 Registered: 5-2001 |
Sounds like a "story" to me. Why would Don Johnson have a replica TR? | ||
| dave handa (Davehanda)
Intermediate Member Username: Davehanda Post Number: 1472 Registered: 5-2001 |
There is some info. at www.ferrariclub.com in the FAQ's about the Miami Vice cars. They had replica Daytonas made from Corvettes, but not TR's, with the exception of a "stunt" TR made from a Pantera... | ||
| Jordan Witherspoon (Jordan747_400)
Intermediate Member Username: Jordan747_400 Post Number: 1643 Registered: 12-2002 |
I know the daytona spyders were built on corvette frames but Im not sure about the TRs. I cant remember where I remember this from, but I saw a show or something that showed a white TR body being used for stunt scenes on Miami Vice...so they might have stuck a few on other car frames (possibly corvettes). | ||
| Jerry W. (Tork1966)
Member Username: Tork1966 Post Number: 854 Registered: 7-2001 |
I had a guy come up to me at a gas station last night and said that his buddy here in town has one of 15 "special" TR's that were specially built for the Miami Vice show. He said that they were Ferrari bodies on a Corvette frame (to appease the U.S. companies). He said that he bought this one at an auction down south and that it was Don Johnson's personal car (black). He also said that at the Barrett Jackson auction, Don Johnson said that he was curious where this car was currently at. Anyone know anything about the authenticity of this tale? |