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will h (Willh)
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Username: Willh

Post Number: 168
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 12:18 pm:   

"I'm seeing the quattro on fri night. I'll report."

Mr G., please do - very interested in your thoughts as a replacement for our Mas coupe, know you are an owner.
James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
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Post Number: 2338
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 9:24 am:   

Now having 3K miles on my wife's Turbo Cayenne I can say this is the BEST 5 person veh. I've ever driven. It's a lot of engineering for 100K. I'm seeing the quattro on fri night. I'll report.
Best
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
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Username: Parkerfe

Post Number: 2803
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 9:14 am:   

I think it looks better than the old Q.
Norman (Storminnormin)
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Username: Storminnormin

Post Number: 216
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 1:38 am:   

A little testy, aren't you, Henryk?
Henryk (Henryk)
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Username: Henryk

Post Number: 1061
Registered: 8-2001
Posted on Monday, August 11, 2003 - 11:20 pm:   

Norman: Almost EVERY "introductory" new car is "pre-sold" in numbers.....sold to people who want to be first on their block. Remember the Z8, T-bird, even the Mini, etc, etc.......now where are these car's value? Look at those that first bought the Maserati coupe and convertible.......they paid sticker......now dealers are offering them for $20K off......used ones are even another $20K less. Would you pay that kind of money to be first on the block? I sure wouldn't!!!!!!!

Haven't you guys learned ANYTHING????????
Norman (Storminnormin)
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Username: Storminnormin

Post Number: 215
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Monday, August 11, 2003 - 11:10 pm:   

I hope Henryk is right so I can buy my Quattroporte at a discount!!! Seriously though, I think the car is gorgeous. My dealer is pretty excited about it, and I understand many dealers have presold quite a few cars. Don't underestimate this beauty. The interior is gorgeous and uses materials head and shoulders above its German and British competition. The Q-porte is going to be a viable and competitive alternative to the typical luxury sedans.
Henryk (Henryk)
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Username: Henryk

Post Number: 1058
Registered: 8-2001
Posted on Monday, August 11, 2003 - 10:55 pm:   

Look at all the ads of dealers still trying to sell new "2002" Maseratis. With the Quattraporte coming, they will just have that many more cars on the lot to sell.

I would bet that ALL the Ferrari dealers are hoping that the Quattraporte will go somewhere else!!!!!!

Just wait and see!!!!!!
Sunny Garofalo (Jaguarxj6)
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Username: Jaguarxj6

Post Number: 766
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Monday, August 11, 2003 - 10:44 pm:   

I love it!! I could live with the rear end. I love the rest of it. Thumbs up from me! Damn tht car is gorgeous.

Sunny
PSk (Psk)
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Username: Psk

Post Number: 887
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Monday, August 11, 2003 - 6:19 pm:   

Compared to:

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It completely lacks the class of the Quattroporto above ... looks just like a Hyundai!!

What happened to Italian style???? :-(

Pete
James Dunne (Audiguy)
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Username: Audiguy

Post Number: 192
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Monday, August 11, 2003 - 4:42 pm:   

Will,

Don't hold your breath on finding one for that figure. I think you can expect to see them at better than $105K when equipped quite nicely.

I saw Cambio Corsa Coupes sell for over $100K so I believe the Quattroporte will go for quite a bit higher.

Oh, btw, I sold new Maseratis and Ferraris so I believe I know a little of what I am talking about.
will h (Willh)
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Username: Willh

Post Number: 164
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Monday, August 11, 2003 - 4:30 pm:   

The latest Car and Driver sets a US price of $80k, the lowest I've seen. Can this be correct?
Eric Brigham (Ebrigham)
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Username: Ebrigham

Post Number: 32
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Monday, August 11, 2003 - 1:07 pm:   

Could it be.....

The return of the boomerangs???!!

JK
vincent decroix (Vince308)
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Username: Vince308

Post Number: 35
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Monday, August 11, 2003 - 12:46 pm:   

they told me last week, the rear lights are still in development, as some other finition points.
greetings, vince308
Michael Vaughan (Vanimal)
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Post Number: 53
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Monday, August 11, 2003 - 8:45 am:   

Nice, BUT - the rear ende is sooooo rover 45....
Ben Cannon (Artherd)
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Username: Artherd

Post Number: 700
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 12:52 pm:   

Center console is a little "80s benz" but I like the dash and steering wheel.

Car's exterior keeps looking better and better! The 3 polished circles are sex!

It should have a 5.75litre V12 though :-)

Best!
Ben.
Jack (Gilles27)
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Username: Gilles27

Post Number: 1311
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 12:38 pm:   

It's not bad. I like the TV trays in back!
Lee Hamner (Tennlee)
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Post Number: 152
Registered: 2-2002
Posted on Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 12:22 pm:   

For a sedan I think it looks great!
Andrew-Phillip Goalen (Andrewg)
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Post Number: 291
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 4:18 am:   

The side, rear, and 3/4 profiles all look great to me, just don't think the headlights and wings go with the Grill and bonnet
French Touch (Tof70)
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Post Number: 20
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 3:12 am:   

Pictures of its luxury interior :

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French Touch (Tof70)
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Post Number: 19
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 2:33 am:   

Another pictures of this biautiful car

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Eric Brigham (Ebrigham)
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Post Number: 30
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 4:23 pm:   

Also from the C&D writeup - Maserati is claiming that the cambiocorsa in the QP is much smoother than initial versions. Not many details beyond this. The default mode will be automatic. I am skeptical, but it should theoretically be possible to make the system a real alternative to a regular automatic (if maser knows what they are doing). My personal experience with the cambiocorsa has improved with recent software upgrades from my dealer. But it is still a long way off from MB-type auto smoothness. A push button for reverse would be nice too.

Personally, I think the car (in a dark color) compares favorably to MB, BMW, Jaguar, Audi. Anyway, I will wait until I see and drive the thing in person before making any judgement...
Lou B (Toby91)
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Username: Toby91

Post Number: 257
Registered: 4-2001
Posted on Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 2:26 pm:   

That "auto" setting better be a lot less jerky than the auto setting on my 360 and much smoother at parrallel parking. I am sure there are some manual tranny folks who will buy it ala the M5 ( but at a much lower price) but all I am saying is they are severly limiting their market potential without a true torque converter tranny for no apparant advantage.
vincent decroix (Vince308)
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Post Number: 27
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 10:33 am:   

it has an automatic gear box, and if you want, there is a small switch to change in to the cambio corsa.

greetings, vincent
Mr. Doody (Doody)
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Username: Doody

Post Number: 1563
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 10:16 am:   

some folks wouldn't mind a six-speed six-figure sports sedan.

uh, like me and my wife :-)

doody.
Lou B (Toby91)
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Username: Toby91

Post Number: 256
Registered: 4-2001
Posted on Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 9:52 am:   

If the reports are true that it will only be offered with a F1 type Cambio corsa that would be a BIG mistake. Seems to me that folks in the 100K sedan class expect a smooooth auto tranny and I can't believe they can make the F1 smooth enough in even a default auto mode plus a 70-100k mile trouble free clutch. They need to offer an auto tranny also. It looks pretty nice though.
vincent decroix (Vince308)
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Post Number: 25
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 9:41 am:   

saw it in reality in previeuw last week in Modena.
It is beautiful, it is Italian.
Everybody around is driving Mercedes S or BMW 7, but this is for Italian lovers.... it is Pininfarina design. You have a lot of space inside.
Mobile and GPS, electric seats on the back are standard, sunroof + DVD and 19' wheels will be options.
I love the car, but always the same, you love it or you don't, each his opinion
Steven R. Rochlin (Enjoythemusic)
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Username: Enjoythemusic

Post Number: 644
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Friday, August 08, 2003 - 7:51 pm:   

Agree with Jack. It's a Audi. No wonder why vintage cars are doing so well...

Enjoy the Drive,

Steven R. Rochlin
Ben Cannon (Artherd)
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Username: Artherd

Post Number: 690
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 3:32 pm:   

I rather liked the C&D pics. Didn't fall out of my seat in love with them, but certinly it out looks the new S class and the current 7 (thought not the e38! :-)

The shape IMHO requires no appologies.

Best!
Ben.
Jack (Gilles27)
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Username: Gilles27

Post Number: 1268
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 3:30 pm:   

It looks like an Audi from rear 3/4. I want to see the rest of the front.
Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
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Username: Hugh

Post Number: 1210
Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 3:23 pm:   

Like I've said before (and you can thank Bangel , et. al.), designers are now focused on producing shapes v. lines; that's where the disconnect is between a classic design, and a contemporary fad (i.e., nearly every new car made today.)
Paul Loussia (Bumboola)
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Username: Bumboola

Post Number: 145
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 3:22 pm:   

It is lovely.



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Omar (Auraraptor)
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Post Number: 851
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 3:05 pm:   

Ben, all praise the E38! Finest sedan of the mid 90s.
Ben Cannon (Artherd)
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Username: Artherd

Post Number: 688
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 3:02 pm:   

I rather liked the C&D pics. Didn't fall out of my seat in love with them, but certinly it out looks the new S class and the current 7 (thought not the e38! :-)

The shape IMHO requires no appologies.

Best!
Ben.
Faisal Khan (Tvrfreak)
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Username: Tvrfreak

Post Number: 763
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 2:29 pm:   

Styling also looks very pretty in the mockup I saw. It showed two different light treatments...I liked one better than the other, which was the intent of the exercise, but both looked good to me.

Is it different in the pics from the previous versions we have seen?

As for reliability, things have come a long way, so we can be a little optimistic.

I have no reservations about comfort and performance...I am sure they will be good.
neal (95spiderneal)
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Username: 95spiderneal

Post Number: 221
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 2:06 pm:   

just saw official fotos in car driver. article starts by saying cant judge its looks in pix, must see in person, etc
why should an italian car designed by pininfarina need styling apologies before its even produced? the style should be universally gorgeous in all phases, lighting, colors,...
this will be another bust for home team as reliability, comfort, performance will likely come up short compared to its competition so style was only hope. interior looks good though

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