| Author | Message | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 5852 Registered: 12-2000 |
good idea | ||
| Mario B (Lawwdog)
Junior Member Username: Lawwdog Post Number: 104 Registered: 12-2002 |
How about taking this thread off Rob. This has now become a chest pounding event... | ||
| P. Thomas (Ferrari_fanatic)
Member Username: Ferrari_fanatic Post Number: 516 Registered: 4-2003 |
Man that sucks. At this point you could try re-selling them as SLICKS. | ||
| Mike Charness (Mcharness)
Member Username: Mcharness Post Number: 855 Registered: 8-2002 |
Bravo, Paul. | ||
| Paul Bianco (Paulie_b)
Member Username: Paulie_b Post Number: 588 Registered: 1-2003 |
To all interested parties, and there are 82 on this thread so far, I just left a phone message for John at his home number. And, as a courtesy and just for the record, I have not yet heard back from him directly by phone or email. As I indicated in my message early today when I discovered this, this was a surprise to me and wish that he would have contacted me directly with any problem. Instead, we have the FChat community involved. We will try to resolve the problem between the two us. | ||
| DHutchison (Hutch308)
Member Username: Hutch308 Post Number: 391 Registered: 1-2002 |
It started when YOU called Bruce's Testarossa a "banana car". Do you have an issue with yellow Ferraris? Or with Testarossas? Or the combination of yellow Testarossas? Inquiring minds want to know... | ||
| LWR (Lwr)
New member Username: Lwr Post Number: 37 Registered: 12-2001 |
I wondered when the car snobbery and proving of credentials would start If it matters at all to any of you... check out this thread http://www.ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/18/4064.html?1032935126 As for my introduction to the community, I've been here for a while... I don't post much due the banality of a lot of other people's comments ... as evidenced by this thread. Again, the real point has been missed... what about those tires? LWR | ||
| The Don (The_don)
Senior Member Username: The_don Post Number: 6306 Registered: 8-2002 |
Hutch, he has car envy. M | ||
| DHutchison (Hutch308)
Member Username: Hutch308 Post Number: 389 Registered: 1-2002 |
LWR - Bruce's "Banana" car was looking just fine last night getting its major service at WWoC. What do you drive? I did not see any mention of a Ferrari or other exotic sports car in your profile. Are you an enthusiast? You've done a great job introducing yourself to this community. - Hutch | ||
| Dave (Maranelloman)
Intermediate Member Username: Maranelloman Post Number: 2491 Registered: 1-2002 |
Guys, DROP IT, for God's sake! | ||
| LWR (Lwr)
New member Username: Lwr Post Number: 36 Registered: 12-2001 |
Just as I thought Bruce... NO INTELLECTUAL CONTENT on your part. Can't come back with something better than that? Go drive your banana car | ||
| Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
Advanced Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 2606 Registered: 4-2002 |
LWR YOU NEED A LITTLE HEAD ADJUSTMENT YOURSELF...MAYBE DR JOHN CAN HELP YOU OUT TO....... | ||
| LWR (Lwr)
New member Username: Lwr Post Number: 35 Registered: 12-2001 |
'sarcasm' ... yes, a little. "SARCASISISISM"... you'll have to help me out a little with that one. Seriously, surely that's the answer here... Paul refunds the money... John ships back the tires. All I've heard so far is some mud-slinging. The real issue as to how this is sorted amongst our community is being dodged. I think it's fair to say that anyone buying tires for that price, on the understanding they had only done 900 miles, would expect them to be in far better condition. As a road tire they're useless. You can sling your 'another tire expert' mud if you like, but it's my opinion, I'm expressing it and that's the point of these forums. LWR | ||
| Mario B (Lawwdog)
Junior Member Username: Lawwdog Post Number: 103 Registered: 12-2002 |
John, I mean no disrespect, but the amount of attention drawn to this post could have been averted by resolving this in confidence with Paul. The number of opinions, including mine, are not necessary in resolving the issue between the two of you. You have every right to be upset about the purchase, and Paul has every right to explain and make you whole. If there is no meeting of the minds then I and others believe you should inform the rest of the F-chat and F-car community. Take this issue off-line, resolve it, shake hands, and lets keep the mood here up beat. Respectfully, Mario | ||
| Albert Sabbah (Albert328gts)
New member Username: Albert328gts Post Number: 27 Registered: 1-2003 |
In Paul's deffense, I have dealt with him in the past regarding shields (on 2 different occasions) he has been nothing but professional and I also found him to be very helpful. Even when I cancelled out my last order and he sent me my refund. | ||
| Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
Advanced Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 2605 Registered: 4-2002 |
LWR DO I DETECT A LITTLE SARCASISM???????? | ||
| LWR (Lwr)
New member Username: Lwr Post Number: 34 Registered: 12-2001 |
Did I miss the part where Paul said he would refund John's money if John shipped the tires back? Bruce... you can answer if you like. | ||
| Paul Bianco (Paulie_b)
Member Username: Paulie_b Post Number: 587 Registered: 1-2003 |
Anka, no disrespect taken, on my part anyway. I appreciate Bruce's comments. This thing has gotten way out of hand. Look at how many posts since last evening! TOO MUCH attention to this. | ||
| Anka (Mechanka)
Junior Member Username: Mechanka Post Number: 53 Registered: 4-2003 |
I mean no disrespect, but BRUCE I think Paul can answer for himself � regardless of what the answer is. | ||
| Paul Bianco (Paulie_b)
Member Username: Paulie_b Post Number: 586 Registered: 1-2003 |
Bruce, we have another expert on board!! | ||
| Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
Advanced Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 2604 Registered: 4-2002 |
ANKA WHY SHOULD HE EXPLAIN IT TO ANYONE...EXCEPT THE BUYER...IM SURE PAUL ALREADY SPOKE OR EMAILED JOHN...SO HIS EXPLANATION TO YOU NEEDS NO EXPLANATION.. | ||
| Anka (Mechanka)
Junior Member Username: Mechanka Post Number: 52 Registered: 4-2003 |
Paul, just to be fare, how do you explain the rubber debris collected by the tire? - it is very consistent with what happens when you drive on the track not on the road. | ||
| Paul Bianco (Paulie_b)
Member Username: Paulie_b Post Number: 585 Registered: 1-2003 |
Pete, I was implying in the original post that the tires would be good for secondary or extra or track tires; just instead of buying them new. not meaning that I had any experince using them on the track. thanks for your opinion. | ||
| Edward (Edward_96gts)
Junior Member Username: Edward_96gts Post Number: 81 Registered: 8-2002 |
Try calculating the mileage by measuring tread remaining. Most tires when new have 10/32" tread. Measure the existing remaining tread. If the tire has a rating wear of 10k miles and only 5/32 is remaining, then the tire has 5k miles on them. Call manufacturer or TireRack for tire info/stats. | ||
| pete (Pete_peter)
Junior Member Username: Pete_peter Post Number: 55 Registered: 12-2002 |
TWS, that made me laugh, good one  jeez i don't know, it's the only analogy i could come up with it's too early | ||
| pete (Pete_peter)
Junior Member Username: Pete_peter Post Number: 54 Registered: 12-2002 |
JRV just spelled out the bottom line. i agree i have not read all the postings Paul, are you taking the tires back and refunding the money ? | ||
| TWS (Au_fan)
New member Username: Au_fan Post Number: 22 Registered: 5-2003 |
This could probably be its own thread, but who buys used underwear? | ||
| pete (Pete_peter)
Junior Member Username: Pete_peter Post Number: 53 Registered: 12-2002 |
Paul, sorry, i didn't know they were not tracked at all, i guess i took it as implied that they were, i assumed they'd been driven some on the track and some on the street imho 600 miles street use looks about right 600 miles track use they'd be bald one plus for you is in your ad, you did say they'd be good for track use, implying they were ok but not perfect that's the way i would have taken it anyways | ||
| JRV (Jrvall)
Intermediate Member Username: Jrvall Post Number: 2155 Registered: 11-2002 |
Paul, This should be simple to figure out, but apparently not. The guy (CUSTOMER) is unhappy with his original descision or the product/price/condition/wife not giving him h**d, yada, yada, yada... IT"S IRRELIVANT...HE IS UNHAPPY!!!!! ANY SUCCESFUL Business man will tell you the VERY SIMPLE RULE of Business...You Have a Problem>>>>SOLVE IT !!! Find a solution and SOLVE THE PROBLEM !!!! As "The Leader" of Your Business It is "YOUR Responsibility" TO SOLVE PROBLEMS, ALL PROBLEMS, ANY PROBLEMS !!! ...whether they are realistic or not is IRRELIVANT !! If YOU can't Solve this problem I certianly can!!!! Just Ask And I will solve it for you!!! WORK OUT A SOLUTION as EVERY Business MUST and stop this ridiculas back and forth!! | ||
| Paul Bianco (Paulie_b)
Member Username: Paulie_b Post Number: 584 Registered: 1-2003 |
Thanks you also Pete. But in all fairness you would have to see the tires personally to get the correct picture. These tires on my car have never seen the track. As a metter of fact, there are other members that know me and my car, that I drive the car infrequently and like a "you know what". | ||
| pete (Pete_peter)
Junior Member Username: Pete_peter Post Number: 52 Registered: 12-2002 |
imho i would expect tires to look exactly like that even after 40 laps around laguna seca, which amounts to about 90 miles is all, or one day of hard racing you can tell they've been on the track by the marbles glued to the outside tread, pic on the right i'm not sure what you expected, but those tires look like what i would have expected based on what you said you were told prior to purchase if you wanted tires that looked like new you should have bought new tires and not been so cheap buying used tires is like buying used underwear, you get what you get alot of equally if not better alternatives to the Goodyear F1's anyways imho you paid too much, seeing those pics, i would have paid approx $100 per tire is all, but over paying is your fault, not the sellers fault did you see pics prior to purchase ? my opinion is, you were not lied to just hmo | ||
| Dave L (Davel)
Member Username: Davel Post Number: 305 Registered: 7-2001 |
Sellers: Post how much tread is left when selling Buyers: Ask how much is left before paying | ||
| Paul Bianco (Paulie_b)
Member Username: Paulie_b Post Number: 583 Registered: 1-2003 |
Bruce Wellington, thank you for your kind comments. As you can see all of "the experts" are coming out of the woodwork. | ||
| RICK ROMERO (Tr90)
Junior Member Username: Tr90 Post Number: 225 Registered: 4-2001 |
the question here is that what is the expected wear on these tires that have been driven 600 miles? any tire experts around? | ||
| Paul Bianco (Paulie_b)
Member Username: Paulie_b Post Number: 582 Registered: 1-2003 |
Good morning All. I am amazed by all of the attention within the past 12 hours on this site. I usually come into work early to read all the posts from the day before and see what is going on with everyone and their posts, and to my surprise I see all of this garbage! LET IT BE KNOWN THAT THIS IS THE FIRST I AM HEARING OF THIS AND I AM PISSED OFF! There are only a few people on FChat that know me personally. I am sure they will verify that I am not the type of person to misrepresent myself. PLUS, also let it be known to some of you with the sarcastic comments, that if and when I track my car I have a second set of tires that I use. The tires that I sold were street tires and I do not drive aggressively on the street. I would offer to show a receipt for the tires showing the mileage when they were purchased but honestly, I don't think I still have it. The Goodyears are hard to find, so I was told by others, and that is why I mentioned it in the original post. ALSO, TO ALL OF THE TIRE EXPERTS OUT THERE....I am not in the tire business, but it is also true that the Fiorano's are a soft compound tire therefore they will wear quicker. Let me repeat myself...I AM PISSED and DON'T APPRECIATE THE NEGATIVE COMMENTS. | ||
| JRV (Jrvall)
Intermediate Member Username: Jrvall Post Number: 2154 Registered: 11-2002 |
MAN O MAN You guys take all these miniscule problems in life WAY TO SERIOUSLY !!!! You should be in the Bikini Thread posting pics or at least crackin a smile!! Sheeeesssshhhhh!!! | ||
| Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
Advanced Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 2603 Registered: 4-2002 |
ART..TYLER..KENDALL...ROCK ON.. MIKE 308, CHRIS...ASSCLOWN AWARD..... DR JOHN C.. LET ME CLARIFY.. .IT WAS NOT A PERSONAL ATTACK ON YOU OR YOUR PROBLEM, WHICH I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND, BUT THE WAY YOU PROMOTED IT TO A PUBLIC FORUM...PAUL IS A NICE GUY, WHOM I HAVE HAD THE PLEASURE TO TALK TO ON THE PHONE..IM SURE HE WILL RESOLVE THE PROBLEM WITH YOU...YOU SHOULD HAVE GONE THAT WAY FIRST.. HOPE IT WORKS OUT FOR YOU JOHN, BECAUSE PAUL IS A GENTLEMAN.... REGARDS, BRUCE | ||
| TOM BUCKLEY (Tom_b)
New member Username: Tom_b Post Number: 33 Registered: 6-2003 |
I'm relatively new to Ferrari Chat so I don't know John or Paul but I do know a little about high performance tires.Rob Lay made an excellent point in his post . These are high performance tires. Minimal tread depth is to be expected, even when new. To my eye, the tires looked fine for what they are. They actually looked pretty good for 600 miles . There are certain classes in SCCA that run DOT tires and they are lucky to get one race weekend (about 100 miles) out of them. I've got a set of Pirelli P7000's with a lot less tread than yours. I submit that the tires were not misrepresented but that John was not informed enough about the product he was purchasing. Tom | ||
| Mike B (Srt_mike)
Member Username: Srt_mike Post Number: 316 Registered: 12-2002 |
I can see where John is coming from completely. While it would be nice (for the seller) if this had been handled offline first, that wouldn't let folks know that it happened in the first place. It is valuable to know that this occurred - and just as valuable to potential future buyers that it was resolved. The other part to keep in mind is that it's pretty clear the product was misrepresented. Maybe it was an accident, but it doesn't seem likely. If the seller was a tire company and they maybe got switched, then OK, but in this case and in the way the product was talked about, it was pretty clear the item was an almost-new set of tires - a one-off deal. The product looks really REALLY worn - more like 6k miles on those tires. I'd be pretty upset too if I were John C, and I think he has every right to post his feelings on the matter. | ||
| Drstranglove (Drstranglove)
Member Username: Drstranglove Post Number: 788 Registered: 4-2003 |
I had trouble from a group with my F-Car. I even got cussed out by them for posting on f-chat about it. But, SHlT got fixed once they knew I was here. I agree with both Art and Bruce, you should have taken it off line first, but even if not...those tires suck balls. I would be pretty mad too!!! DrS | ||
| Chris (Ecsplosive)
Junior Member Username: Ecsplosive Post Number: 77 Registered: 7-2003 |
Kendall, the 430 and Esprit are my parents. I have the sl, 328, and is. I paid for them myself and as you probably already know since your such an avid ferrarichat poster, ferraris happen to be somewhat pricey to maintain. The SL is a mercedes and doesn't need maintanence as often and the lexus, well, i don't really maintain. I paid for them all using money I have recieved from various computer jobs. But I'm flattered that you have taken such a liking to all of my posts and please, I would love to see more of what I wrote reposted. | ||
| gary green (Minuke)
Junior Member Username: Minuke Post Number: 200 Registered: 7-2003 |
Kendall, Are you sure you're not in law school. | ||
| Kendall Kim (Kenny)
Member Username: Kenny Post Number: 446 Registered: 9-2001 |
Nice Try, but I do like the pic in your profile though... | ||
| Kendall Kim (Kenny)
Member Username: Kenny Post Number: 445 Registered: 9-2001 |
OOPS... "I really want to purchase a NSX but I'm having trouble affording mainting my 328 (so much that i may have to sell ) so I'd like to get one in the 20k-low 30k range. If possible, please post any information about one thats for sale. Would really appreciate it!" Your profile reads- Other Cars Owned: Black/Ash 2003 Mercedes SL55, Black/Grey Mercedes 560SEC, Black/Tan 2000 Mercedes ML430, Yellow/Black 2000 Lotus Esprit, Black/Black 2002 Lexus IS300 ("The Beater"), | ||
| Chris (Ecsplosive)
Junior Member Username: Ecsplosive Post Number: 75 Registered: 7-2003 |
Kendall, you're a classy guy. If you had any sense, you would check the ips out, but whatever. Fight the good fight. | ||
| Kendall Kim (Kenny)
Member Username: Kenny Post Number: 444 Registered: 9-2001 |
and Chris, what does your alter-ego,, err Robby have to say? | ||
| Chris (Ecsplosive)
Junior Member Username: Ecsplosive Post Number: 73 Registered: 7-2003 |
Dr. Phil says, "IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM OR PISSED OFF ABOUT SOMETHING..GO DIRECTLY TO THE SOURCE..CALL HIM, EMAIL HIM LIKE A GENTLEMAN...NOT JUST OPENLY ATTACK HIM LIKE YOU DID..........." Adolescent girl raging against her parents says, "MIKE.....GO BACK TO PLAYING YOUR ATARI 2600" | ||
| Anka (Mechanka)
Junior Member Username: Mechanka Post Number: 51 Registered: 4-2003 |
John, I'm with you all the way! The responses to this post should not be directed at you but rather at the fact that one of the members here ripped you off. By the accumulated rubber on the tread, it seemed he might have meant 600 miles ON TRACK. Come on guys, it's not John�s integrity that should be attacked but rather Paul's. | ||
| BobD (Bobd)
Intermediate Member Username: Bobd Post Number: 1435 Registered: 3-2001 |
Wow, talk about a rough 600 miles... remind me not to buy his car when he goes to post that! This certainly seems to be misleading. I hope you guys can work it out off-line. | ||
| Tyson Hall (Trhall)
Junior Member Username: Trhall Post Number: 199 Registered: 6-2003 |
John, I agree 100% those tires are a joke. You have a right to be pissed if Paul is going to sell stuff like this on Fchat people should be warned. Hopefully it's some kind of a mistake. Tyson | ||
| Dr. Ken Lee (Kenster888)
Junior Member Username: Kenster888 Post Number: 220 Registered: 4-2003 |
Hey Bruce, do you drink ouzo? I'll bring some to the party. John, if you're ever in the neighborhood I'll invite you to a drink too! This is making me thirsty. I'm gonna go drink some schnaps now. | ||
| John C (Racer_x)
New member Username: Racer_x Post Number: 45 Registered: 6-2003 |
Art, he was nice to me in the email too. Rob, 1) Paul advertises his Scuderia Shields and used tires in this discussion and NOT classifieds. 2) I have read many threads that are from unhappy "consumers" against entire dealerships, ebays, mechanics, individuals, etc. and there have been no resistance. 3) Either way, what is unfair to Paul? (We all like him, so it seems unfair?) He should stand by his "product." I really feel the unfairness is to me. There would be no issue if someone posted a picture of acceptable tires or the nice shields they received from him. I feel the real issue is not me posting, but the misrepresentation. 4) It's good to see Ferrarichat is a tight group and having frieds defend you is nice, but PLEASE, look at the tires and how you would feel having received this condition tires when you were told 600 miles used (no, BS about 600 on track, etc). I just can't mount them. 5) Thank you for your recommendations. | ||
| Tyler (Bahiaau)
Member Username: Bahiaau Post Number: 949 Registered: 12-2001 |
John, I hope you are able to resolve this quickly. Bruce, don't change a thing. Love ya buddy! | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 5843 Registered: 12-2000 |
Are these meant for the street. I get all my DOT track tires shaved. I hope you talked to Paul offline first and didn't get the response you wanted before posting this. I don't think it's fair to Paul going right out on the public forum. | ||
| arthur chambers (Art355)
Intermediate Member Username: Art355 Post Number: 2332 Registered: 6-2001 |
John: I almost bought them, exchanged email with Paul about them. He seemed pretty nice in the email, etc. I hope that you did try to resolve this with him, before you posted this. If you did, then you are more than justified in your post. If you didn't then you may have been a little early in your post. Bruce: Don't let them intimidate you. I love reading your posts. cut them no slack. Art | ||
| john (Johnwto)
Junior Member Username: Johnwto Post Number: 102 Registered: 6-2002 |
bickering aside...........i think i would be kind of pissed too. $500 bucks is a lot of money for tires that look pretty worn. i'm sure paul will step up...... | ||
| Jerry W. (Tork1966)
Member Username: Tork1966 Post Number: 865 Registered: 7-2001 |
Thanks buddy, but nothing serious, just painful (cosmetic). | ||
| Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
Advanced Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 2602 Registered: 4-2002 |
JERRY THANKS FOR THE HEADS UP..PRAYERS FOR YOUR WIFE.... REGARDS, BRUCE | ||
| John C (Racer_x)
New member Username: Racer_x Post Number: 39 Registered: 6-2003 |
Bruce, Yes, I am. | ||
| Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
Advanced Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 2601 Registered: 4-2002 |
JOHN...ARE YOU A DR??? IF SO..THOSE SYMPTOMS ARE ALWAYS THE CASE WITH ANY ANTI-DEPRESSANT- MOOD ELEVATION DRUGS CAN DO....I CAN ALSO READ | ||
| Andy Falsetta (Tuttebenne)
Junior Member Username: Tuttebenne Post Number: 223 Registered: 3-2003 |
Mike, Cut him some slack. I think we found out what the side effects of Lexapro are | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Senior Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 5639 Registered: 8-2002 |
No, Jerry, no fair...! i really wanted to meet you...  Hope your wife is well, though. | ||
| John C (Racer_x)
New member Username: Racer_x Post Number: 38 Registered: 6-2003 |
Guys, We are waaayyy off topic and making it like the old "prove you have a Ferrai posts." The facts are clear. The photos are posted. Everyone can have their own opinions. Thanks. | ||
| Mike Charness (Mcharness)
Member Username: Mcharness Post Number: 847 Registered: 8-2002 |
DES, good response. It's a shame to have the kind of personal attack banter here earlier on this thread. | ||
| John C (Racer_x)
New member Username: Racer_x Post Number: 37 Registered: 6-2003 |
Bruce, Since you are not a physician, you should know that Lexapro, like the other SSRIs does have side effects such as insomnia, diaphoresis,nausea, and reports of male ejaculatory dysfuction. | ||
| Jerry W. (Tork1966)
Member Username: Tork1966 Post Number: 863 Registered: 7-2001 |
Bruce, not to change the subject or anything but sorry I am going to have to miss your party. My wife just had surgery and we just can't be traveling right now. I hope all goes well and post some pics! Jerry | ||
| Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
Advanced Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 2600 Registered: 4-2002 |
MIKE.. GO OUT AND GET AN EDUCATION AND COME BACK HERE IN 4 YEARS....... JOHN...MY ISSUE IS OVER WITH YOU..... | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Senior Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 5638 Registered: 8-2002 |
John, have you called/emailed/ or otherwise somehow communicated with Paul...? To flagrantly lambaste Paul without first speaking with him regarding the result of the transaction is all hot steam and no real beef... In his own way, that's pretty much what Bruce is saying... All this nonsense about psychotropics etc. is uncalled for... Let's first wait for Paul to get here or you and he can agree to let this drop and take it off line... To sit here and go back and forth like this is detrimental to you, others involved and the community as a whole... i hope, no matter the outcome, that this thread stays right here so that we can all learn from it - whether what TO do or what NOT to do, pending on the outcome... Above all, i hope things work out for all parties involved in said transaction; as a community heavy with the enthusiasm of a piece of history and a modern-day iconic legend, it's incumbent on this board and it's members to behave appropriately and in a manner conducive to furthering the appreciation for the marque; not squabbling... EW, i sounded mature there...! Blech...! | ||
| mike 308 (Concorde)
Member Username: Concorde Post Number: 266 Registered: 8-2002 |
Sigh... what an ass. John, I suggest it's best to just not talk to someone so incredibly rude with such a chip on his shoulder. | ||
| Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
Advanced Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 2599 Registered: 4-2002 |
JOHN..NEITHER..... MIKE.....GO BACK TO PLAYING YOUR ATARI 2600..THIS CHAT IS FOR THE BIG BOYS,,,,,,,,, | ||
| mike 308 (Concorde)
Member Username: Concorde Post Number: 265 Registered: 8-2002 |
BRUCE, HOW 'BOUT YOU PUT YOUR MUZZLE ON AND "STAY OUT OF IT"? Who made you king today? John, my pleasure. I think many of us get tired of his rants. | ||
| John C (Racer_x)
New member Username: Racer_x Post Number: 36 Registered: 6-2003 |
Bruce, Are you a physician or are you speaking from personal experience? | ||
| Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
Advanced Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 2598 Registered: 4-2002 |
ACTUALLY, LEXAPRO IS NOW THE DRUG OF CHOICE AND HAS FEWER SIDE EFFECTS!!:} | ||
| Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
Advanced Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 2597 Registered: 4-2002 |
JOHN...TRY LEXAPRO...NO SIDE EFFECTS.... | ||
| John C (Racer_x)
New member Username: Racer_x Post Number: 35 Registered: 6-2003 |
Bruce, You are correct. There are better ways. You should heed your own advise. Pozac, a selective serotonin uptake inhibitor is the oldest generation. I would recommend Paxil over both Zoloft and Prozac. Also, what planet am I suppose to go back to? You wrote, "we love you Paul..." (Well, we love you Kobe Bryant)... so we know he can do no wrong? | ||
| Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
Advanced Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 2596 Registered: 4-2002 |
MIKE PUT YOUR PANTS BACK ON, AND STAY OUT OF IT... JOHN......THERE IS STILL A MORE GENTLEMANLY WAY OF HANDLING ANGERED SITUATIONS....DONT YOU THINK??.. | ||
| John C (Racer_x)
New member Username: Racer_x Post Number: 34 Registered: 6-2003 |
Thanks mike. | ||
| mike 308 (Concorde)
Member Username: Concorde Post Number: 264 Registered: 8-2002 |
Bruce, do you ALWAYS HAVE TO YELL, unlike most everyone else here? If you're going to criticize someone else's internet/forum etiquette, you should also take care of your own. | ||
| John C (Racer_x)
New member Username: Racer_x Post Number: 33 Registered: 6-2003 |
Bruce, Paul POSTED THE AD UNDER DISCUSSION AND NOT CLASSIFIED so I am responding under discussion. | ||
| John C (Racer_x)
New member Username: Racer_x Post Number: 32 Registered: 6-2003 |
I just CAN'T sell tires in these condition to anyone. Also, he said, "use them daily or track.", not "used as track..." Either way, there is a common sense of decency that anyone can see, that these are really useless tires. The only benefit is his pocket. I am only sharing what happened. The bottom question is if you would feel good about selling these tires to anyone on Ferrarichat or anywhere. (Yeah, for $500.00 bucks). Not me. | ||
| Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
Advanced Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 2595 Registered: 4-2002 |
JOHN THERE ARE WAYS TO ADDRESS YOUR ANGER AND FRUSTRATION ABOUT SOMETHING....TO PUT IT ON A PUBLIC FORUM, IN MY OPINION SHOWS LITTLE CLASS AND IGNORANCE...THATS WHAT I AM ATTACKING.. IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM OR PISSED OFF ABOUT SOMETHING..GO DIRECTLY TO THE SOURCE..CALL HIM, EMAIL HIM LIKE A GENTLEMAN...NOT JUST OPENLY ATTACK HIM LIKE YOU DID........... | ||
| Dave (Maranelloman)
Intermediate Member Username: Maranelloman Post Number: 2486 Registered: 1-2002 |
John, that SOUNDS like it sucks. However, did he tell you HOW the 600 miles were accrued? If they were accrued on the track, I wouldn't be surprised if they looked like that. Remember, he said "street OR track tires... | ||
| John C (Racer_x)
New member Username: Racer_x Post Number: 31 Registered: 6-2003 |
Bruce, I guess you believe what Paul said represented himself well. It's not a popularity contest. (Koby or not Kobe or Arnold or not). I liked Paul. His inputs are very helpful. I think you would be upset too if you received such poor condition tires for $500 under misrepresentation. | ||
| John C (Racer_x)
New member Username: Racer_x Post Number: 30 Registered: 6-2003 |
It's good to see I'm not over reacting. Thanks. I'm waiting to see what Paul Bianco's response is. | ||
| Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
Advanced Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 2594 Registered: 4-2002 |
JOHN..GET OFF THE SAUCE,,,DID YOU TAKE YOUR PROZAC TODAY?.....GO BACK TO YOUR OWN PLANET...WE LOVE YA PAUL.......... | ||
| Drstranglove (Drstranglove)
Member Username: Drstranglove Post Number: 787 Registered: 4-2003 |
Ouch!!!!!! Man that sucks!!!! DrS | ||
| todd montandon (Sllade)
Junior Member Username: Sllade Post Number: 216 Registered: 7-2003 |
what the hell kinda of bullshit is that we are supposed to be brothers here we expected to be lied to and be stolen from from someone on the outside but not here thats wrong.i will not be doing business with someone like that. | ||
| John C (Racer_x)
New member Username: Racer_x Post Number: 28 Registered: 6-2003 |
July 21 - July 30, 2003, Paul Bianco wrote, "I have heard that Goodyear F1 Fiorano tires are hard to find. I have 2 rear tires I would like to sell; a left rear and a right rear. Use them as daily tires or track tires. The size is 275-40-18. Both tires have only been driven about 600 miles. From the Tire Rack, they sell for $371 each. If interested, make me an offer." Eventually, I purchased them for $500.00. I received them today and the condition is worse than my current ones! "... only driven 600 miles!!!" BULL !!! They have a millimeter before the ware bars! (Well, I'm sending them back and no thank you for wasting my time.) I expect more integrity from a fellow Ferrari owner rather than ebay style treatment. Also, cancel my Scuderia shield order.   |