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David Harris (Dakharris)
| Posted on Monday, October 22, 2001 - 6:17 pm: | |
Martin: Check your jack kit for a lug wrench. The more common problem is having your lug nuts over-tightened by a pneumatic wrench. I always check my lug nuts with a torque wrench after having my wheels removed by a mechanic. You only have to be stuck on the side of the road once with a flat tire, a jack, a good spare and no way to get the %$*#%@# nuts loose. |
Martin (Miami348ts)
| Posted on Monday, October 22, 2001 - 4:45 pm: | |
I wanted to check if my lug nuts were tight when I was on the road on Saturday and the car kept on making a strange noise. Opened the hood and got the "TOOLKIT" out. Well it turns out Ferrari does not have a lug nut tightener in the toolkit of a 348! That makes sense, does it? |
1989 328 GTS (Vilamoura2002)
| Posted on Sunday, October 21, 2001 - 12:26 pm: | |
There are some items which I think a car must have otherwise I wouldn't buy... not even with a discount. .... and here they are.... Pauli Salmu (Psalmu), here is the answer to your question - 328 tools
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Herbert Edward Gault (Irfgt)
| Posted on Sunday, October 21, 2001 - 9:14 am: | |
I would sure hate to turn down a perfectly good car for the lack of a tool kit. Nice, maybe but way too much emphasis put on it IMHO. |
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
| Posted on Sunday, October 21, 2001 - 7:17 am: | |
A tool kit also makes the car easier to resale to a buyer looking for such. |
DBP (Dilly)
| Posted on Tuesday, October 16, 2001 - 3:58 pm: | |
If you show at a national level a tool kit is a must. I have judged and shown many cars and if you don't have a tool kit you are in big trouble. In buying a car to show I would question why a car did not have a set of tools and ask for a reduction in the price if I decided to purchase the car. On the other hand, if I were in the market for a track car I wouldn't be concerned with the tools. We have much better tools in our garage. |
William_Huber (Solipsist)
| Posted on Tuesday, October 16, 2001 - 4:50 am: | |
Back in the early days of F1, did Ferrari use a hammer to fix certain issues? Hmmm. I wonder why this this isn't a standard part of the toolkit used with a 360 or 550? I if was it would keep the service dept busier. |
magoo (Magoo)
| Posted on Monday, October 15, 2001 - 11:52 pm: | |
Herb, My thoughts exactly about the tool kit. Too much emphasis is put on it. I doubt if a guy really wanted to buy the car the absence of the tool kit would queer the deal. In fact, as the discussion here proves, a buyer doesn't expect a tool kit because he assumes the kit has already been removed. But if you have it, it looks a little better when you show the car. |
BretM (Bretm)
| Posted on Monday, October 15, 2001 - 11:37 pm: | |
Sometimes you can rig things to work enough to get home, but the newer the car the less a chance you have of any makeshift fixes. The toolkit is all tradition. There was a day whe you really did need those things to make it there and back. |
Frederick Thomas (Fred)
| Posted on Monday, October 15, 2001 - 7:53 pm: | |
I'm with Herbert. Given a choice I'll take the tool kit and the manual. If I could only have one, give me the manual. Also if the car is at home I have tools. If it on the road I probably need parts anyway. |
Edwin F Herr lll (Letsgofst)
| Posted on Monday, October 15, 2001 - 7:41 pm: | |
Herbert, If you dont mind, I would like to add one more item to your toolkit. This will be real useful if the car has to be flat-bedded to a Ferrari dealer-------a bag with about $10,000 in it. |
Herbert Edward Gault (Irfgt)
| Posted on Monday, October 15, 2001 - 5:16 pm: | |
If I were going to put together a tool kit for a car it would contain a flashlight and a cell phone and a 44 Magnum. What are you going to do with those worthless tools on the side of the road when the most common failures involve parts replacement and without parts the tools are useless. Too much emphasis is being placed on the stupid tool kit. It does not seem to matter what shape the car is in when selling it to some people as long as it has the magic tool kit. I had much rather have the owners manual than any other accessory. |
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
| Posted on Monday, October 15, 2001 - 8:12 am: | |
You can get new ,used and reproduction tool and jack kits from Ted Rutland at www.trutlands.com or you can find them advertised for sale in The Ferrari Market Letter at www.ferrarimarketletter.com. |
Mitchel DeFrancis (4re308)
| Posted on Monday, October 15, 2001 - 6:55 am: | |
I am only missing the little extension light on my 308 QV tool roll. I have just about every piece. But in the 82 Mondial I just got has no tools at all, not even the jack. |
Pauli Salmu (Psalmu)
| Posted on Monday, October 15, 2001 - 12:11 am: | |
However useless they may be, I may try to get a toolkit for my 328. Is the kit unique to that model or perhaps exactly the same as in e.g. 308QV? Is the original tool pouch tan leather, black vinyl or what? |
'75 308 GT4 (Peter)
| Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2001 - 11:25 pm: | |
That's extortion! Holding toolkits as hostages.... As "useless" as these tools may be, they're still a part of the car. |
Tim N (Timn88)
| Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2001 - 9:19 pm: | |
frank already said it. what do you need a toolkit for? so you can say "even has tool kit" and charge an extra 1k when you go to sell your car |
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
| Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2001 - 7:49 pm: | |
FYI Ferrari tool kits often appreciate at a higher percentage than the car itself. When I sold my 330GTC I kept the tool and jack kit. It was complete and perfect just like it left the factory in 1967. I later sold it to someone who had a 330GTC with no toolkit for $3,000.00. Even a run of the meal 308/328,TR,348/355 tool kit can bring $1,000.00 or more if in as new condition. Take care of and hold on to your factory tool kits. You can later sell it and use the money to service your next Ferrari |
Martin (Miami348ts)
| Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2001 - 8:48 am: | |
I had kept a Testarossa Tool kit from a car I sold 10 years ago. The kit was not delivered with the car and we gave the guy a discount for it, then the toolkit turned up and I kept it. Never used it until one day I find my dad with the screwdriver and plyers fixing my house. "Great tools" he says and smiles. I had my first heart attack at 28.... Since then the tools have all been used and are still being used. Screwdrivers are missing now. |
Edwin F Herr lll (Letsgofst)
| Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2001 - 8:32 am: | |
I am going to take issue with all who have posted that the Ferrari toolkit is useless. I have used mine on many occasions-------the screwdriver was useful when I needed to repair the door handle to my patio----The pliers were quite handy when I needed to fix my son's bicycle-----and the car jack I sold at a garage sale and used the proceeds to buy a Big Mac. |
'75 308 GT4 (Peter)
| Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2001 - 11:53 pm: | |
All I got was the little flashlight and the emergency crank handle for the power windows (which seems to work alot faster and better than the motors themselves). I carry my own collection of tools in the trunk along with jumper cables. But I suspect that if I have to do any road-side repairs, it'll be for some catastrophic breakdown, like an exploding water-pump, jammed shifter mechanism, crumbling distributor cap, etc... J |
magoo (Magoo)
| Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2001 - 11:24 pm: | |
David, If you didn't have the tool kit and you were selling your car, how much would you give the guy off on the price to replace it? |
David Harris (Dakharris)
| Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2001 - 11:20 pm: | |
The older the car, the more valuable the toolkit...in more ways than one. |
Michael A. Niles (Man90tr)
| Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2001 - 10:32 pm: | |
Some of us do get that stuff. I got the full set of tools, the weird little flashlight and all the sorts of little things that the manual says is tuck away in the car. Even got the tow hook which people seem to buy all the time. But I agree a lot of this stuff "disappears" over the life of the car. |
magoo (Magoo)
| Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2001 - 9:58 pm: | |
You really don't have to worry about them if you buy a used Ferrari because they never come with the car anyway. |
BretM (Bretm)
| Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2001 - 8:56 pm: | |
Concours... and for when you get stuck on some deserted road in the middle of the night. Then you can diagnose your digiplex ignition, or F1 shifter system with a 10mm wrench and a screwdriver...right. There are some minor things that you could use it for when away from home, but the newer the car the less you can do. I think it's somewhat of a tradition now so they just keep on doing it. |
Christiank (Christiank)
| Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2001 - 8:07 pm: | |
I have one in my Mondial but the one in my TR is missing. I have looked at the Mondial one once and I find it ugly (condition is like new though) and not useful at all. |