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Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
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Post Number: 2514
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 5:20 pm:   


quote:

...Or we could just ignore it.




Exactly. Say goodbye to this thread, gentlemen.
Amir (Amir)
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Username: Amir

Post Number: 81
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 5:04 pm:   

As they say, Nebs, the best revenge is living well.

I don't really care about convincing you. I simply thought you had misunderstood my earlier posts, so I clarified the language even more. That's it.

Augustine J. Staino (Azzuro328)
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Post Number: 320
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 5:01 pm:   

Arthur,
Isn't this fun? :-)
Nebula Class (Nebulaclass)
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Username: Nebulaclass

Post Number: 491
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 5:00 pm:   

At - I agree. It's Rob's fault 100%.

FIX THIS ROB, NOW! :-)
Nebula Class (Nebulaclass)
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Username: Nebulaclass

Post Number: 490
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 4:58 pm:   

Amir - I couldn't care less how you try to convince me of your profts. Bottom line, I don't buy it. Plain and simple. Too many holes can be poked in your stories. So just stop trying. Why do you care if I beleive it or not anyways? My opnion doesn't change any facts.....or does it?

arthur chambers (Art355)
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Post Number: 2592
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 4:58 pm:   

All of this is avoidable if Rob (he's really the guy at fault here) would put in a spelling and grammer check. I'm too lazy to draft in wordperfect then post. Surely with all the effect, noise, and other issues we have about each other's grammer, Rob could do that. Or we could just ignore it.

LMAO

Art
Amir (Amir)
Junior Member
Username: Amir

Post Number: 80
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 4:57 pm:   

Bush: Look, over there, WMD.
World: Huh?
Bush: Look, can't you see it?
World: No.
Bush: But it's there. I saw it.
World: You saw it or you can see it?
Bush: It's there.
World: Come on.
Bush: No, I want to go get the WMD.
World: But they are not there.
Bush: Yes they are.


Substitute me for World and Nebula for Bush and the word "hole" for WMD and it all becomes clear.
Amir (Amir)
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Username: Amir

Post Number: 79
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 4:55 pm:   

Nebula, it's profit. Why would I talk about 15k in revenue, or even 1 million in revenue, if I was losing money at the end of it. Since my living expenses are more than 2k per month, it would not be worth it to engage in anything which made less in profit. I don't think I can put it any more simply.

Not exactly dying for you to be on my side bro. I got brother Bruce.
Nebula Class (Nebulaclass)
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Username: Nebulaclass

Post Number: 489
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 4:55 pm:   

Amir - the best way to get out of a hole is to stop digging.

Trust me, it works.
Amir (Amir)
Junior Member
Username: Amir

Post Number: 78
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 4:51 pm:   

No, let's talk about your issues. Continually attacking someone when they are not even guilty of what you are accusing them of serves what purpose, exactly?

Repeatedly making the same old false accusations gains you what, exactly?

Lashing out over nothing shows what great quality in you, exactly?

Claiming to extend an olive branch? That's quite different from your claims of cornering me, or appointing yourself as someone who welcomes others to this chat board, especially when you are a newcomer yourself. So what were you doing? Extending an olive branch, or being a prick and preteding you ran the forum?
Augustine J. Staino (Azzuro328)
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Username: Azzuro328

Post Number: 319
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 4:51 pm:   

And amid all of this hooplah, no one even noticed that my grammar actually was bad. I meant to say "you sound like an ass!" and not "You sound like a ass!"
Doh!
Nebula Class (Nebulaclass)
Member
Username: Nebulaclass

Post Number: 487
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 4:49 pm:   

Wow Amir. I was almost on your side througout this whole stupid ordeal, but I just realized that you are a total d!ck. That, and I have a very hard time beleiving that you bring in 15k/month in BMW parts. You might *sell* that much, but I would venture to guess that you profit maybe 1k to 2k.

Anyways, you're an A$$ and I recommend that you go outside and play hide and go f*ck youself.
mike550 (Mikeg)
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Username: Mikeg

Post Number: 108
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 4:44 pm:   

Forget it Amir - you are an pompous a$$. I offered you an olive branch. Yet you continue to show your ignorance. Amazing!!!

--- Amir
As for understanding why people lashed out at me, I put it down to several factors:
- inability to take criticism;
- inability to take correction;
- inability to understand written English;
- inability to control oneself when presented with facts; and
- inability to restrain oneself from puffing up like a moron when feeling threatened. ---

How about the fact you are ass? Did you consider that? Multiple people responded to your condescending and pompous posts because you were missing the spirit of this board. And from your response to me you have demonstrated that you still are.

Not many on this board seem to like your contributions - and for good reason. Go troll another board.

How about we come up with a list of reasons why someone hangs out on a chat board - contributes nothing, corrects grammar and spelling and replies in an offensive nature?

http://www.ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/132929/314641.html?1063596254#POST305473

http://www.ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/132929/311691.html?1063122064#POST299719

I'll start the list:

1). They are pompous asses
2). They want attention
3). ...

John Do'h (Combover)
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Username: Combover

Post Number: 105
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 4:42 pm:   

Tyson: I'm still eagerly awaiting Bruce's reply.
Amir (Amir)
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Username: Amir

Post Number: 77
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 4:41 pm:   

OMG, I JUST TALKED TO BROTHER BRUCE. HE CALLED ME BUD!!! :-) :-) :-)

No kiss, though... :-(
Tyson Hall (Trhall)
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Username: Trhall

Post Number: 370
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 4:40 pm:   

I think you've been waiting for this moment John. Why are you trying to make yourself look like Matt??
Let me guess you're AllanLambo
John Do'h (Combover)
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Username: Combover

Post Number: 104
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 4:38 pm:   

$500, yes or no? Agree and I'll call.
Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
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Username: Bws88tr

Post Number: 2880
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 4:36 pm:   

AMIR I LOVE YOU TOO :-) :-) :-)

IF YOU ARE NOT MATT LEMUS CALL ME NOW 888 882 6965..IM RIGHT HERE WAITING.......
Amir (Amir)
Junior Member
Username: Amir

Post Number: 76
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 4:33 pm:   

I JUST WANT A KISS FROM BROTHER BRUCE.
John Do'h (Combover)
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Username: Combover

Post Number: 103
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 4:32 pm:   

Okay, Battery Bruce, time to put up or shut up! $500 dollars (U.S. currency)says I'm not Lemus. Yes or no?

Payment can be handled through Paypal.
Amir (Amir)
Junior Member
Username: Amir

Post Number: 75
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 4:31 pm:   

LOVE YOU TOO BROTHER BRUCE
Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
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Username: Bws88tr

Post Number: 2879
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 4:22 pm:   

HE DOESNT SOUND LIKE AN ASS...HE IS AN ASS.....

TAKE ALL YOUR BRAGGING MONEY AND ALL YOUR LANGUAGES AND APPLY THEM TO A CITY IN MARS

YOU TOO...GO AWAY, FIND MR GREEN AND JOHN DO'H (MATT LEMUS) AND HOLD HANDS AND TAP YOUR FEET 3X.
Amir (Amir)
Junior Member
Username: Amir

Post Number: 74
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 4:18 pm:   

Why are you asking me?
Augustine J. Staino (Azzuro328)
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Post Number: 318
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 4:17 pm:   

Amir,
You sound like a ass! How was my grammar in that question?
Amir (Amir)
Junior Member
Username: Amir

Post Number: 71
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 3:23 pm:   

Just to be clear, mike550, I am not looking for your approval. You took things personally of your own accord. I don't really see why you feel the need to "welcome" me. Didn't realize this was "your" board or that anyone had appointed you its spokesperson.

I may have been lacking in tact, but I never even did the things you and some other self-appointed judges felt so insulted by. I had agreed to not point out anything about other people's posts before this thread was even started.

I never called anyone illiterate idiots, although you and several others keep bringing that up. I just said one might appear that way if their posts were full of spelling and grammatical errors. Not a sure thing. Just a possibility. Too bad if you don't like hearing about it. It happens to be true. Appearances count.

What I am trying to tell you is that you were "lashing out" over nothing. Perhaps you are not capable of grasping the subtle distinction between accusing someone of something or saying that something is simply a possibility.

Funnily enough, I never felt like I was penned in a corner. That's quite an interesting perspective you have. As my younger sister would say, whatever!

As for understanding why people lashed out at me, I put it down to several factors:
- inability to take criticism;
- inability to take correction;
- inability to understand written English;
- inability to control oneself when presented with facts; and
- inability to restrain oneself from puffing up like a moron when feeling threatened.

I will let it drop too.
Rosso (Redhead)
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Username: Redhead

Post Number: 397
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 3:12 pm:   

Mike...well said....
John Do'h (Combover)
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Username: Combover

Post Number: 97
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 2:48 pm:   

Now that everyone is playing nice we can close this thread. BTW, I did like Amir's comments about "Battery Bruce"-LOL!!
mike550 (Mikeg)
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Username: Mikeg

Post Number: 107
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 2:46 pm:   

Amir - I am gonna let go. :-) Not that you were sweating it. :-)

Your most recent posts are informative and nice - even though you were penned into a corner by me and others. I think you understand the spirit of this board now and can hopefully understand why several people (mainly myself) lashed out at you. This really is a forum for F-car enthusiasts, and it represents a chance to share ideas and thoughts on many topics. Not everyone has to agree - or even should (that would be boring). But at least we should all be respectful, and if someone did not quite have the right facts we can be tactful in pointing this out. Or if another is not a good speller, by choice or otherwise, we should not harp on that and possibly dissuade someone from posting. You never know who might provide a good nugget of information to you in the future.

I have been on many forums and this has to be one of the best - and the reason it is (besides Rob) is the quality of the members and spirit of camaraderie. Things may heat up in "off-topic" when politics and other hot subjects come up. That can be expected and we venture into those threads as big boys. :-)

I have taken off the boxing gloves.

Welcome to the Board Amir! I am pretty new myself and already feel welcome and have made a few new e-friends and look forward to meeting many fellow enthusiasts. That's what this is all about. Great cars - great people.
Amir (Amir)
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Username: Amir

Post Number: 70
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 2:21 pm:   

Dom,
it's not even that advanced. I find parts on the web. Buy them cheaply. Advertise on BMW forums, and sell them on for a profit. I scan those forums constantly to stay on top of what is in demand, etc.

A lot of what I sell on is stuff that is spun off by my buddy. Now he's got his business well-organized and makes a ton of money doing it full-time. For me it's a hobby that pays real well. I like Beemers and I like car accessories and I seem to be able to spot good buys. You have to spend a lot of time on the BMW boards, though.

I got started when I got my BMW and wanted to buy accessories and mods for the car. It was fun stuff, and there's a good crowd in Houston who showed me the ropes. I deal in everything from wheels to carbon fiber trim pieces to differentials and motors and exhaust systems.
Dom Vitarella (Dom)
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Username: Dom

Post Number: 438
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 2:15 pm:   

Amir,

Just curious. What exactly do you mean by "trading BMW parts"? Do you mean sell parts via catalog? How did you get started, etc.

Dom
Amir (Amir)
Junior Member
Username: Amir

Post Number: 69
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 2:05 pm:   

Rich,
can you write Hiragana and Katakana or do you just use Romaji? Did you find it hard to learn Japanese? I can't wait to learn it. Were you single when you were in Japan--how is that? Did you live in Tokyo itself, a bullet-train ride away, or out in the rice-fields?

I was flying to Thailand (via Tokyo) once and our plane was diverted to Kansai airport due to some typhoon. I had watched some Discovery channel episodes on that airport's construction--the whole place is sinking and the engineers keep jacking it up until they figure out a solution. It was totally awesome to be there!
Amir (Amir)
Junior Member
Username: Amir

Post Number: 68
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 1:54 pm:   

Rich,
right on. Sorry if what I said sounded like boasting. It wasn't meant to be. If you grow up in an immigrant family, chances are, you speak several languages. Someone asked, I answered. That's all.

And I first mentioned that English is my third language because someone (Ben, I think) implied that people who learn English as a second (or third) language are poor at spelling or grammar.
Amir (Amir)
Junior Member
Username: Amir

Post Number: 67
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 1:48 pm:   

Jeff,
mentioning my income was a big mistake. Can we not focus on that please? I only revealed it to show why a corporate career did not appeal to me.
rich stephens (Dino2400)
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Username: Dino2400

Post Number: 609
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 1:42 pm:   

I've never known what to think when people say they speak X number of languages. What does that mean? Contrast the average American who claims he knows Spanish because he can order beer and chat up the senoritas with the Japanese businessman or university student who will claim they don't really understand English as you observe them reading and understanding the Wall Street Journal.

-Rich (who has probably 80% fluency in Japanese compared to 100% fluency in his native English)
Amir (Amir)
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Username: Amir

Post Number: 66
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 1:39 pm:   

I sold the 328. Also had an M5 that cost twice as much as the 328. That was totaled in a crash. But I can get the VIN next time I go home to Houston if you really want.

I have a 3-series that I am gonna give to my brother as well. My dad's friend owns numerous dealerships and I can pretty much drive any car I want. Hence the S500 I am rolling around in these days.

Having a car at A&M is a huge pain in the ass. My buddy and I are planning on going halves on a golf-cart and putting the official A&M Vehicle stickers on it so we can get around campus easily, and leave it right by the building entrances! It's been done by others before, I am told. Should be hilarious.

As for real cars, I have a deal pending on a really special ride. I should have it in December. I will post a pic then.

By the way, what will posting a VIN prove? There's tons floating around, anyone can get one from a dealer, or generate one after doing some research. Send your friends over, and they can verify if I am real or not.
Jeff (Jeff_m)
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Username: Jeff_m

Post Number: 226
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 1:27 pm:   

I am starting to feel a "post your vin" thread coming on. You have a 328 and live in a dorm making 200k a year?
DL (Darth550)
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Username: Darth550

Post Number: 296
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 1:27 pm:   

Jim E,

Just for the record....I posted it first!!!!!


DL
Amir (Amir)
Junior Member
Username: Amir

Post Number: 65
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 1:11 pm:   

Arabic. Farsi. English. French. German.

I want to learn Japanese, Spanish, and Italian by the time I am outta here. Figure I can get a decent command if I take intensive courses and spend summers in countries where they are spoken. Angling for a semester in Switzerland next year and a job with a race team in Japan one summer. Italian...well, that's so much fun to hear and speak that I figure I will spend some time in Italy after graduation for sure.

As for the Spanish, I can pick it up anytime and practice it either here or in South America. That's definitely going to be the easiest.
Jaime T. Ferraris are sex on wheels (Chevarri)
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Username: Chevarri

Post Number: 163
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 1:08 pm:   

"Jaime, what's your problem? Let it go, buddy. Putting a label on me or DES won't make you look better."

No problem at all Amir. I wasnt putting lables, and the German was just a joke and all in good fun :-) Obviously DES got it, and he laughed it up.

Im curious Amir, what are your first through fifth langs?
Jim E (Jimpo1)
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Post Number: 2565
Registered: 7-2001
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 1:01 pm:   

It must be a new record, the basis for this thread: http://www.ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/132929/315685.html?1063666472
has been copied and pasted into this spelling and grammar thread 3 times!
Amir (Amir)
Junior Member
Username: Amir

Post Number: 64
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 12:11 pm:   

Mike,
I am in the Callaway House dorms at A&M. Today I am driving a black on black S500 that's parked outside. If you truly have friends at A&M, they can come check it out/check me out. I have a lot of reading to do, but I wouldn't mind chatting in person for a few minutes as long as they're cool.

I did get the flat-screen and I have like 300 DVDs here, so if they want to hang some other time, that's cool too.

If this is supposed to be a flame-war, then sorry, I am not playing.
jeff ryerson (Atheyg)
Member
Username: Atheyg

Post Number: 461
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 12:06 pm:   

Amir,

No, this thread was not directed at you
DES (Sickspeed)
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Username: Sickspeed

Post Number: 6410
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 11:40 am:   

Amir, i think when you implied that those who don't care to check and balance their spelling & grammar on an internet forum are 'uneducated, illiterate schmucks', the general concensus thought you were being a little rigid... It kinda went downhill from there... If you re-read the thread in its entirety, i think you'll see what i'm saying...
PeterS (Peters)
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Post Number: 1513
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 11:38 am:   

This post is earmarked for Nebula Class:

Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht
oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a total mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Fcuknig amzanig huh?
Amir (Amir)
Junior Member
Username: Amir

Post Number: 63
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 11:36 am:   

Ron,
now you know why I don't reveal personal info. There's someone waiting to pounce on every little thing you post.

So Jeff, when you started this thread, was it about me or about correcting people's spelling and grammar in general?

For the record, everything I posted is true. Why would I lie about it?

English is indeed my third language. But I don't speak 3 languages. I speak 5.
I do trade BMW parts.
Trading BMW parts is VERY lucrative--my friend did over a $1 million in his first three months.
I did start at A&M this fall.
I do think that website sucked. Yes, I could have sugar-coated that comment, but the person was asking for frank criticism, not just praise. Anyone who understands php/mysql and perl scripts will know that you can put together an amazing website in under two hours.
mike550 (Mikeg)
Junior Member
Username: Mikeg

Post Number: 106
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 11:33 am:   

Ron - spot on. Amir has not endeared himself to this community with:

1)his numerous posts correcting grammar and spelling mistakes - - and contrary to what he may state, he does make them out of the blue http://www.ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/132929/314641.html?1063596254#POST305473

2) his rude comments: e.g.:
a.) "Kds,do you know how to read? "
b.) "2 years? My web-designing buddies can put a site like this together in 2 hours. That's about 50 bucks. Sorry, but I am not exaggerating. Even from my layman's perspective, you seem to have a few basic pages, one photoshopped picture, and a couple of forms that (hopefully) feed into a database. What took two years? Refining the business plan? Establishing the relationships? Test-marketing? Getting financial backing? Writing and editing the content? Or making the website?"

Ron, it is interesting that he claims to not want to share private information, but posts about his income:
"I trade BMW parts and already pull in about 15-20k per month."

He lives in Texas, is a student and working on getting a bachelor's degree. Oh and he speaks three languages. (most people would say English is my second language or English is a second language. Not our low profile Amir "English is my third language.")

"I just got started on my bachelor's...hope I finish! I am attending Texas A & M, majoring in Management Economics. "

Note of caution to all: If you live in Texas or attend Texas A&M watch your grammar, spelling, websites, learn how to read (Kds :-) ) -- Amir may be lurking ready to pounce.

I was born in Texas myself and have quite a few contacts there. I'll ask if anyone knows an Amir at A&M that is making $200,000 per year trading BMW parts. Might be interesting to get another opinion about Amir. Perhaps my opinion that Amir is a pompous a$$ is wrong.

A chat board wouldn't be a chat board without one.
DES (Sickspeed)
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Username: Sickspeed

Post Number: 6403
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 11:24 am:   

Oink, oink, Zoo Pals... Hoot, hoot, Zoo Pals... Ribbet, Ribbet, Zoo Pals...
Amir (Amir)
Junior Member
Username: Amir

Post Number: 62
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 11:22 am:   

Jeff,
working on and maintaining cars bores me. Did it for a number of years and got sick of it. Can't say I was good at it, but I got the job done. I hate the very thought of crawling under a car or breaking my back bending over a hot engine compartment. Or spending hours to work on something and finding out it was not the problem or I have the wrong part and the shops are shut. Those who have been there know what I am talking about. Some people find it enjoyable or therapeutic or a good expenditure of time. I don't. I look back on a day I could have been out driving or seeing new places or time that could have been spent with friends and family. Or yet another missed opportunity to make some deals and make some money.

So I leave working on the car to the mechanic. I never did much work on a Ferrari though, my experience is in Japanese and British cars. I just like to drive all sorts of nice cars. Since I am friends with a prominent owner of a chain of dealerships, I have the opportunity to sample a lot of very cool cars. I will be going to the F1 races with him--I will post some pics when I get back.

By the way, Jeff, this area is for general discussion. I believe there is a separate area for technical issues if you really do want to talk shop.

Can I ask what's with the constant insults? Even before you started this thread, I had said I wouldn't point out errors anymore. And I haven't. I also don't claim to be intellectually superior. Or that you are an illiterate, banal schmuck.
jeff ryerson (Atheyg)
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Post Number: 459
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 11:13 am:   

I misspelled grammer on purpose as I knew it would catch the GPs attention faster and prove my point:-)

Amir,
Since you are so intellectially superior to us uneducated illiterate schmucks and banal types, maybe you would be so kind as to share some of your vast technical knowledge on Ferrari?

That way you would not be contributing to pointless chatter.


Mark (Study)
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Username: Study

Post Number: 808
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 11:12 am:   

This quote is the key to understanding this thread-
"By the way, for a third language your English skills are remarkably good."

My friend can play any song on any instrument from just hearing it once. (he is the worst music teacher... doesn't know how he does it)

People are born with different skills and weaknesses. Amir has a gift for languages, and my friend Ben has a gift for music. Being born with a talent.. can cause people to like you more, or like you less (if you have trouble fitting in).

Some people are born with disadvantages in life. Problems with dislexia and hearing problems for instance. These people still enjoy life but when they come to F-chat for some relaxation time... they don't need to be reminded of the unlucky hand they got delt in life.

It might be hard for a gifted student to even imagine what others deal with in their day-to-day lives. "why don't they study?" "why don't they try harder?" "its so easy if you try"

Most people fall between these extreems but I'm trying to make a quick point. Gifted people have a hard time understanding what is like to not be born this way. Its not easy being good at something, you asume your way is the norm, and are easily confussed by others who lack your particular talent.
DES (Sickspeed)
Senior Member
Username: Sickspeed

Post Number: 6391
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 10:34 am:   

LMAO, Jaime...!
Amir (Amir)
Junior Member
Username: Amir

Post Number: 60
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 10:28 am:   

Jaime, what's your problem? Let it go, buddy. Putting a label on me or DES won't make you look better.
Ron (Easy_rider)
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Username: Easy_rider

Post Number: 746
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 10:27 am:   

Amir there is a difference between being private and being what appears to be paranoid about it.

Listing the area where you live and your general interest or occupation and a picture of your ferrari is a long way from releasing truly private information.

If you want to be a part of a community then part of the obligation is to open up a little bit about yourself.

By the way, for a third language your English skills are remarkably good. You might want to take a little sensitivity training though. :-)
Peter Gozinya (Blingmeister)
New member
Username: Blingmeister

Post Number: 3
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 10:23 am:   

Jeff, sorry, but you spelled "grammar" wrong on your subject line.

Too funny..
Jaime T. Ferraris are sex on wheels (Chevarri)
Junior Member
Username: Chevarri

Post Number: 162
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 10:21 am:   

"i can't take ANYTHING Jaime said seriously, because he misspelled 'antagonized' and 'getting'... "

Well, shutup! You have a lower case "i" at the start of a sentence, so their! :P

Achtung, achtung! Das "Grammar Gestapo" ist "Des" und "Amir"!

Hey, Wayne I noticed the title was mispelled too, but I didnt want to say anything :-/
Amir (Amir)
Junior Member
Username: Amir

Post Number: 59
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 10:15 am:   

Ron,
I only have 57 posts because most of the topics of conversation here are completely banal. If it was a cluster of people at a party, I would find another group talking about something more interesting. Same here--I don't want to contribute to pointless chatter. Not saying you shouldn't, but I certainly don't want to be a part of it. Are you able to understand this, or are you going to insist that I validate myself with a high post count like BATTERY BRUCE WHO JUMPS ALL OVER GARY GREEN EVEN WHEN GARY'S POSTS ARE MEANINGFUL?
Amir (Amir)
Junior Member
Username: Amir

Post Number: 58
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 10:09 am:   

Ron,
I like to keep my private information private.

All others,
in case you didn't notice, I didn't correct anyone's spelling except in the one instance where someone's post corrected someone else's spelling, yet their own post contained a spelling mistake. That was in the "should I get a PhD in Geology or not" thread. I just thought it was funny to see the pot calling the kettle black. My attitude always has been to live and let live.

The only times I have pointed out something is when the post actually says something that is different to what the poster is trying to get across, or they have posted erroneous information. For instance, someone wrote "I am contributing to the process" (ie. making the process longer), when they wanted to write "I have been contributing to the progress" (making the process shorter), etc. That was in the 959 thread. Look it up. Look that up too...it's only a few posts below this one.

Also in that thread, someone posted some misinformation about the Show and Display procedure and Bruce Canepa. I clarified that. Even then, when it was pointed out to me, I agreed to stop. Even in this thread, I have debated the issues only, and not resorted to insults. I used the phrase illiterate, uneducated schmuck in a general sense, it was not directed towards the originator of the thread, and I clarified that in the second post.

Perhaps the tone could have been different, but are you all 2nd graders who need corrections to be couched in heaps of praise? And look at how I am responding to criticism versus how you have responded. Quite frankly, all you mofos who have heaped insults on me should be the ones called trolls.

And am I supposed to be insulted if you promise to put me on the ignore list? Do you really need a button to be able to ignore something? Are you that helpless without it? Why can't you begin ignoring me now? Good luck in your wait...Moderator Rob, please help him out.

Finally, English is my third language.
DES (Sickspeed)
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Username: Sickspeed

Post Number: 6375
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 9:52 am:   

LMAO, Wayne, i didn't even notice that...!

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA...!
Rosso (Redhead)
Member
Username: Redhead

Post Number: 396
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 9:52 am:   

http://www.iespell.com/

Does nothing for grammar, but it works just fine on spelling issues. All you do it type in what you want, right click, select all, and the right click again and check spelling. It then performs just like outlook.
Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Moderator
Username: Lwausbrooks

Post Number: 2507
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 9:51 am:   

It's pathetic that we even need a thread like this. It's funny, however, that even the title of the thread is misspelled!
DES (Sickspeed)
Senior Member
Username: Sickspeed

Post Number: 6372
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 9:47 am:   

i can't take ANYTHING Jaime said seriously, because he misspelled 'antagonized' and 'getting'...

:-)
Jaime T. Ferraris are sex on wheels (Chevarri)
Junior Member
Username: Chevarri

Post Number: 161
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 9:40 am:   

This post atually reminds of the ones we had @ Chevytalk a while back. A few members @ "CT" were being pricks about ppls grammatical errors. Eventually, it lead into a lot of turmoil, and escalated into a lot of bitterness, banning of members, leaving of some members, and straight out hatred for the mods and their supporters. I'll qoute myself here, "If I wanted to write the great American novel on the internet for everyone to see, I would." Like other F-chaters here and "CT" have said, "as long as I get my point across." I eventually called the ppl who kept correcting others the, "Grammar Gestapo". I've atagonized those who do by keeping a signature that refrains to that whole incident. My point of posting is that I sure wouldnt like to see Fchat geting into a flame war, and "ban fest" just beacause some ppl have to be pricks about grammar. So, dont be a "Grammar Gestapo" and you might make some freinds!
DES (Sickspeed)
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Username: Sickspeed

Post Number: 6359
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 9:10 am:   

For me, personally, i try to stay on top of my spelling and grammar as often as i can; i don't want to slack off... However, this is a personal importance and i don't expect others to do it, nor do i look down on someone who doesn't curb their spelling and grammar mistakes... Just like i don't always keep my apartment in the cleanest of states... :-)
To each, her or his own.
djmonk (Davem)
Member
Username: Davem

Post Number: 417
Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 8:57 am:   

Amir. I see no smoke in Sunny's profile picture!
Ron (Easy_rider)
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Username: Easy_rider

Post Number: 745
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 8:17 am:   

Amir, as much as I dislike spelling and grammatical errors, probably more so than you, I echo Mikeg's sentiments. You have posted 57 or so comments in the seven months you have been registered. Many of those have been criticisms or other negative comments.

By the way, why don't you get your many web designing friends to update your profile. I am sure that it would only take them about 5 minutes to post a picture of your ride or add some other information. Right now you are acting like a troll, sniping from the outside without attempting to join the community.
Lawrence Coppari (Lawrence)
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Username: Lawrence

Post Number: 774
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 5:22 am:   

Here is an example of how touchy language/grammar/punctuation can be:

"We oppose any attempts to increase taxes(,) which would harm the recovery and reverse the trend to restoring control of the economy to individual Americans."

The presence or absence of the comma drastically changes the meaning of what was quoted. With the comma present, it is supply side economics. Without the comma, it is conditional meaning some tax increase is fine unless it harms the recovery.
tony hopkins (Tonyh)
Junior Member
Username: Tonyh

Post Number: 55
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 3:29 am:   

This is quite amazing!


Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at an Elingsh uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer
in

waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht
frist and lsat ltteer is at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl
mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae we do
not raed ervey lteter by it slef but the wrod as a wlohe. ceehiro


That'll f**k the splelchekcer


mike550 (Mikeg)
Junior Member
Username: Mikeg

Post Number: 103
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 2:38 am:   

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
quote:
Nice retort, but coming across as a pompous ass has got to be a thousand times better than coming across as an uneducated, illiterate schmuck. Think about it. What would you rather be?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Amir, I never thought for a moment that Jeff (or anyone else you have corrected in Ferrari-chat)was an uneducated illiterate schmuck. However, you have clearly come across as an arrogant, holier than thou, pompous ass.

Think about that.

You should keep your disdain for these peccadilloes to yourself if you want to be viewed as a positive contributor. (I thought we had chatted about that yesterday)http://www.ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/132929/314641.html?1063596254#POST305789

What you fail to realize is that:
a) many people are more interested in contributing meaning info than worrying about typos, grammatical errors and spelling mistakes.
b.) there are international members on this board and English may not be their first language.
c.) many people in the chat world do not bother correcting their own typos as long as the message can be understood.
d.) there may in fact be some less educated members on this Forum. They, however, may be great F-car enthusiasts and perhaps one day may help you with some valuable information. Your pompous attitude may dissuade people without your "mastery of spelling and grammar" from posting. You may also be hurting the feelings of those that may not have an I.Q. as high as yours or may not have had the privilege or fortune to pursue secondary education.

Add this post to the mix - Posted on Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 4:42 pm: http://www.ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/132929/311691.html?1063122064#POST299719 and one notices a pattern with you.

My friend, you are indeed a POMPOUS ass.

I would rather see a dozen posts with typos than one of yours. I can't wait for the "ignore" feature. You will be my first victim.
Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Intermediate Member
Username: Amenasce

Post Number: 1302
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 2:15 am:   

Spailing doznt matta !
IamA (Ski_bum)
Junior Member
Username: Ski_bum

Post Number: 171
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 2:09 am:   

DL:

Eye bee ROTFLMAO
Ben Cannon (Artherd)
Member
Username: Artherd

Post Number: 893
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 1:09 am:   

nebula, let's save it for here: http://www.ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/132929/315692.html?1063692548 ;) (sorry, this is kinda a cheap shot.)
Nebula Class (Nebulaclass)
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Username: Nebulaclass

Post Number: 475
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 12:53 am:   

Seriously, though. I couldn't care less about grammar errors or typos, in general.

I do, however, take exception to snobby a-holes who look down on others, usually implying some sort of intellectual superiority, all the while completely misusing "there", their", or "they're." If you talk to me like a normal human being and make stupid mistakes, who cares? I do it all the time. But if you are attempting to tell me my views are stupid and flawed based on my intelligence level, and you make uneducated grammatical errors, I'll call you on it.
Nebula Class (Nebulaclass)
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Username: Nebulaclass

Post Number: 474
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 12:48 am:   

As fr as Im concerned, if you cant spell or do rite grammer, you suck.
John Do'h (Combover)
Junior Member
Username: Combover

Post Number: 91
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 12:42 am:   

Amir: The problem is that unless the grammer/spelling is really bad, most people won't notice, even if it's done repeatedly. More importantly, almost no one will remember it the next day. However, by continually correcting people you are, essentially, attacking them personally, which is something they and others WILL remember.

Anyone else have some thoughts?
Ben Cannon (Artherd)
Member
Username: Artherd

Post Number: 889
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 12:40 am:   

I charge $2400/hr for spell checking my posts.

For that low low rate, I will insure (ensure? I don't f-ing care! You know what I am saying. :-) there are no spelling errors, and I'll even go one furthur to avoid run-on sentences, because, who wants to read one of those, I mean, seriously!


Frankly, all I really care about is that someone's trying, and can get their message across.

Sure, bad grammar and attrocious <c'mon,> spelling are detremental to your success as a communicator, but everything in my opinion does not need to be picture-perfect either.

I honestly don't notice minor, especially phonetic mis-spellings myself, and I doubt the general populace does (uber-anal types notwithstanding.)

Grammar and sentence structure are far far more important than a few typos in spelling to me. I can tell if you're a genius, or an idoit, the difference is, one is failing to spell "heisenburg uncertinty principle" and the other is failing to spell "you's best be shuttin da hell up, foo."



I don't wear buisness suits, because I don't feel like. Does that limit me? Maybe. So might my ponytail. So what, I chose to accept all that, for the sense of freedom (or, rather, tangible real freedom to have long hair and not wear suits unless I want to.) and sanity I get from it. I do wear clean t-shirts (usually have something cool on 'em, like Ferrari, or Keck observatory or just a color I like.) Because I want to give the impression of an enthusiest who just dosen't like suits and isn't would-up all tight, not that of a bum. (that would be unwashed clothes, and unkept/bathed apperarance.)



Everyone has to draw a line in the sand somewhere, beyond which they will not compromise. Basic human principals for which we all stand. Every sane human being has this line somewhere.

Best!
Ben.
DL (Darth550)
Member
Username: Darth550

Post Number: 294
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 11:24 pm:   

Attn. Spelling and Grammar Police!
Subject to interpretation of the law:

>>>Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at an Elingsh uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht
oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist
and lsat ltteer is at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you
can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae we do not raed ervey
lteter by it slef but the wrod as a wlohe.<<<

DL

Amir (Amir)
Junior Member
Username: Amir

Post Number: 57
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 11:23 pm:   

Sunny, that car in your profile...wow, absolutely smokin'!!!!!
Amir (Amir)
Junior Member
Username: Amir

Post Number: 56
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 11:21 pm:   

I actually think they're a victim of the poor school system.
Amir (Amir)
Junior Member
Username: Amir

Post Number: 55
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 11:18 pm:   

Nice retort, but coming across as a pompous ass has got to be a thousand times better than coming across as an uneducated, illiterate schmuck. Think about it. What would you rather be?

Purely academic question, by the way--I am not implying that you are one, and I certainly don't want to come across as one. Even if you think I do.

Your accusation is kind of like the retort..."you drive a Ferrari so you must have a small penis." Fun to say if you are the one saying it, but completely unfounded.
jeff ryerson (Atheyg)
Member
Username: Atheyg

Post Number: 456
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 11:12 pm:   

Smack those knuckles with that ruler Amir!

Anyone who doesn't know when to use their, there or they're properly is a fool in your book.
Sunny Garofalo (Jaguarxj6)
Member
Username: Jaguarxj6

Post Number: 894
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 11:09 pm:   

If your trying for a promotion into a managerial position and you can't spell, or use poor grammar, what are your chances in your career field? In IT, having a spell checker is not enough. A friend was turned down for an operations manager slot because of his grammar and spelling, despite the fact he has every other qualification and could do the job well.

Sometimes it does matter. On here? Hell no :-)

Sunny
Frederick Thomas (Fred)
Member
Username: Fred

Post Number: 810
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 11:07 pm:   

Ditto what John said.
John Do'h (Combover)
Junior Member
Username: Combover

Post Number: 90
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 11:04 pm:   

"You don't have to care about coming across as an uneducated, illiterate schmuck."

Well, beats coming across as a pompous ass:-)
Tom Bakowsky (Tbakowsky)
Member
Username: Tbakowsky

Post Number: 600
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 10:55 pm:   

WAAAHOOOO 600 posts!!!




Sorry....I'll go away now....
Amir (Amir)
Junior Member
Username: Amir

Post Number: 53
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 10:48 pm:   

For the most part, it doesn't matter, except it reflects poorly on you. If you don't care, you don't care. But sometimes, it actually changes the meaning to something other than what you want to say. That you should care about. For example, if someone says "could care less" instead of "couldn't care less," it actually means the opposite of what they are trying to convey.

Why do you wash your car or care about dings? Why even care that it runs properly? It's the same kind of idea, just applied to different areas in life. What's important to some isn't worth a rat's ass to others. A slovenly appearance, whether in person or online, will make you appear like a slob. You don't have to care about coming across as an uneducated, illiterate schmuck. But some people do.

jeff ryerson (Atheyg)
Member
Username: Atheyg

Post Number: 455
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 10:34 pm:   

This is one thing here that really gives me a laugh those who get in arguments and need to resort to the you can't spell for sh*t or how you make bad grammatical errors.

My GF who is getting her Doctorate receives emails from the most recognized Professors in the U.S. that look like a 8 year old wrote them, many many spelling errors, grammmer errors etc., handwritten notes are the same.

These are the most educated teachers in the Country many with multiple PHds

Unless your goal in life is a PHd in English who gives a rats ass?
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