| Author |
Message |
Martin (Miami348ts)
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2001 - 2:53 pm: | |
In case of a Euro in the US already, no worries.
Just look at the car. If things are out of line like the shields etc, you may want to reneg on aestetics, but warranty or parts or anything should not worry you at all. |
Martin (Miami348ts)
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2001 - 2:52 pm: | |
sorry,
i misunderstood that you actually wanted to import the car. SORRY! |
Ben Lobenstein 90 TR (Benjet)
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2001 - 1:09 pm: | |
Dave -
Also on that TR you had posted (ebay - on another thread) the front amber side markers did not seem flush mounted as most cars are. As well the SF shield stickers seem to be on the doors instead of the fenders, just an odd placement. Not necessarily a bad thing just something to note.
-Ben |
Martin (Miami348ts)
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2001 - 12:46 pm: | |
How much can you save on a Euro vs a US?
I am all for importing but right now the prices in Europe are close to our prices and once you calculate shipping, conversion and DOT and the duty you pay, you are down to the same price as bought here.
A Euro TR you never know what you get unless you check it out. Fly down there, not buying the first one flying back then finding another to save what $ 3000 ?
IMHO not worth it. 1985TR less than $50K, 1987 TR Less than $ 55K, 1991 TR less than $ 65K, 1992 512TR less than $ 80K Those are prices I have been offered to buy. |
Steve Magnusson (91tr)
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2001 - 12:46 pm: | |
CHMSL = center high mounted stop light
Usually the "converted" non-US TRs have something added on top of the engine bulge (rather than the CHMSL being integrated into the back of the engine bulge as it is on the US cars) |
Dave Wapinski (Davewapinski)
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2001 - 12:33 pm: | |
What is HMCSL? |
Steve Magnusson (91tr)
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2001 - 11:54 am: | |
Dave W. -- For the TR there are about 15~20 different "versions" (not just "Euro" and "US") so the FNA statement is a bit of an oversimplification IMHO. However, I think your statement that: "I thought I could get a Euro TR with DOT and EPA paperwork, and not have problems getting parts or service" is generally true as are Bret M.'s comments about the lack of computerization being a plus for service (although TRs still have plenty of ECUs to go haywire). But I'd still discount the value of a non-US TR in the US even if it had a note from the Pope -- and if it's a non-US car with K-Jetronic rather than KE-Jetronic injection that'd be another serious discounting factor IMHO (as would be no cats, an ugly CHMSL, etc.). If you really want to understand some of the various version/age differences you might want to get copies of the TR WSM (330/84) and the TR SPC (587/90) -- not a small investment (maybe ~$500), but you could probably resell them without too much difficulty if you didn't get a TR. |
Ben Lobenstein 90 TR (Benjet)
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2001 - 11:45 am: | |
Short answer - depends on what you want/need.
Assuming it has full CA smog legal exhaust then disregard the following: Many things are easily obtained (even from dealers), but some impossible (STOCK smog parts are a good example). My car even has some Euro Parts which I have obtained from various Dealers across the country.
-Ben |
Dave Wapinski (Davewapinski)
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2001 - 10:47 am: | |
This statement from the Ferrari North America web site is why I thought I could get a Euro TR with DOT and EPA paperwork, and not have problems getting parts or service. Are the parts from the Euro and American TRs interchangable?
"The global awareness of Testarossa's designers ensured that the factory could produce one car for all markets, pass all emissions and safety standards and never require type modification to pass new rules." |
BretM (Bretm)
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2001 - 9:15 am: | |
A Testarossa is such a simple car really(all mechanical still, no computer stuff), you should be able to do anything that would go wrong in your driveway, so there would be a lot of good places that could work on it and a lot of places to get parts for it. A 512TR is a little more complex, they switched over to more computerized things. But still, a euro of either one of them wouldn't be trouble really in the sense of keeping it running well and all. The 360 is the only car that is computerized enough where is becomes somewhat dependant on Ferrari to service, etc. Even 355, 550, 456 have no where near the software that the 360 has. |
Dave Wapinski (Davewapinski)
| | Posted on Monday, October 22, 2001 - 11:44 pm: | |
Was considering a TR.
Do they have the same problems?
For example do they have diagnostics, are the parts the same for American cars, etc.? |
martin J weiner,M.D. (Mw360)
| | Posted on Monday, October 22, 2001 - 10:06 pm: | |
Dave -see comments on "Challenge Cars from Europe"
Biggest problem is diagnostics do not work on Euro cars. Second no warranty honored by FNA.What you save in costs now (if any!)you will lose on resale.
I did it and am sorry. altho I love the car the problems of getting parts from Europe etc has been very frustrating.Also FNA treats you as a pariah. |
Dave Wapinski (Davewapinski)
| | Posted on Monday, October 22, 2001 - 9:45 pm: | |
If a Euro car has all the EPA and DOT paperwork, what are the disadvantages of buying it?
Thanks |