| Author |
Message |
BretM (Bretm)
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 24, 2001 - 10:12 am: | |
You gotta love Ferrari. |
Ben Lobenstein 90 TR (Benjet)
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2001 - 8:31 pm: | |
Hmm interesing I have a friend with an 86 TR that has the TRX. Oh yeah, there is no logic to this.
-Ben |
Adam Goldman '86 TR (Icnsltmfg)
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2001 - 8:22 pm: | |
Dave;
I have an 86 with spline knock off rims that are 16". I need a new set of sneakers for it and there are sevral available including the Mich Pilot's and the Dunlops. There are also 4 or 5 others such as Yoko's. The front's are 225 55 16 and the rears are 255 55 16. You can shod the car for $500 - $1000.
As for no right hand mirror, it is tough to get used to especialy with my "bus size" mirrors on the ML430, but I built a little mirror for the inside of the car that is small but let's me see the whole right side with no blind spot, and still keeps the great look of one high mirror.
I love that combo inter, and sometimes wish I had picked a black int, but I am going to get tan mats with red horses.
Adam |
Patrick S. Perry (Psp1)
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2001 - 1:12 pm: | |
88 TRs definitely had standard size rims (16') - early 88s had knockoffs, 88 1/2 had 5 lug. Bigger rims (17")are available in both configurations, but they are pricey($1,000 - $1,300 each). FWIW, I've never experienced a knockoff coming loose - the best way to deal with it is to get a large socket (availability discussed in a previous link)and torque them properly.
I'm in Southern California - weather not much of a factor - so I'm looking at Yokohama A032 DOT legal "race tires", available in the correct sizes. The buzz is that they should last 3-5,000 miles with spirited driving - for me thats 2-3 years and they're relitively inexpensive($150ea).
I saw in another thread you were asking about how hard it is to work on these
(re electronics/diagnostics). I do a majority of my own work without a hoist or sophisticated electronic gear, but be prepared for a difficult task. My latest little "project" involved replacing the low pressure return hoses from the FI system to the gas tanks. It ended up being virtually a full 6 hours under the car just trying to get the hoses back on - some areas are a little tight and quite a bit is done by "feel".
Workshop manuals and parts manuals are available on ebay (either printed or on cd-rom) for about $100 each, but don't expect the kind of fix-it books you see at Pep Boys - these have general descriptions(at best) in 4 languages and don't cover all of the different variations within the 84-91 production run. Be prepared to reverse engineer.
Hope this helped a little & keep the questions coming! |
Ben Lobenstein 90 TR (Benjet)
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2001 - 12:51 pm: | |
Dave -
Let me see if I can get you all straightened out here:
From 1985 to 1988 the "knockoff" rims were used on Testarossa's. MOST of them are TRX (metric) 390mm (I think about 15.5") size and while are still available, certainly not in the normal brands, costs and performance of standard tires today. The knock off is on backwards (reverse of the wheel's normal revolution) at a tension of IIRC 325ft lbs of torque.
Some of these rims (and also possibly aftermarket) knockoff rims were made in 16".
I have seen aftermarket knockoffs that fit the these cars in 17' and 18' also.
The 1988.5 to 1991 Testarossa came with 5 bolt 16" rims stock.
The 1992-94 512TR came with 18" rims which look a bit (vaguely) like 355 rims. See Ferrari website.
The 1995 F512M came with the 18" "Spinner" rims that you either love or hate.
Wheel sizes are NOT interchangeable without a considerable amount of hassle. For example the most common thought is to go from (my) 16" 5 bolt to the 18" TR rims, so that you can accommodate bigger brakes. Aside from the $6-8k price tag for the Ferrari 18" rims (if you decided you want to the stock 512TR rims), you need spacers and IIRC longer lug bolts to make them fit. The bolts ain't cheap either, nor the $6-8k big brake kit.
Hope that helps
-Ben |
BretM (Bretm)
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2001 - 12:43 pm: | |
The first year (or two) of the TR had spline drive rims. Then they went over to 16s I think on the 5 lug TRs. Then the 512TR got 18 inch five spokes and the 512M got 18 inch swirls. |
Dave Wapinski (Davewapinski)
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2001 - 11:56 am: | |
It just hit me where I saw the "swirl" rims. It was at http://www.ferrarina.com and under F512M, Design, Styling.
Can a rim like this be placed on older 512s or TRs?
What type of cost?
Thanks, Dave |
Dave Wapinski (Davewapinski)
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2001 - 11:39 am: | |
SHARP car!!!
I have also seem some Ferrari rims that had a swirl in the large spokes. What are these?
Rims were not even on my radar screen before, but will take a look at this issue.
I took a brief look at the archieves. Correct me if I am wrong:
The origional TR had a tire size that is no longer manufactured. Hence problems finding them. They can be converted to larger sizes, but it requires changing brakes, etc. Also the knock offs can come loose (however, never had this problem on my Austin Healey 3000 Mk 3).
The 512TR came with 16 inch rims. They can be converted to 17 or 18 with little problems except for the high cost of the rims. Many people seem to be going to 17 where there is a larger selection of tires.
Do I understand correctly?
Now back to work.
Thanks, Dave Wapinski |
Steve Magnusson (91tr)
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2001 - 11:18 am: | |
Dave W. -- click on my profile (name) for a shot of my '91TR with the 5-lug wheels |
Dave Wapinski (Davewapinski)
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2001 - 10:49 am: | |
Does anyone have a photo or a link that shows what these later rims look like? |
Steve Magnusson (91tr)
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2001 - 10:33 am: | |
Dave W. -- easily? -- no. Better to pay the extra ~$15K for a later 5-lug TR if that's what you want IMHO. |
Dave Wapinski (Davewapinski)
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2001 - 10:14 am: | |
Can one easily upgrade the early TRs to the later rims and tires? Approximately how much does it cost?
In the past I have used Michlin tires and liked them. How does the current generation of Peralli tires compare to current generation Michlin tires? |
Martin (Miami348ts)
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2001 - 6:14 am: | |
REmember its a 85, first year model. The car looks very clean but will have the first year gremlins.
I think price whise that is where the early ones should be maybe even a little less. You should be able to find those frequent if you are looking around. |
Patrick S. Perry (Psp1)
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2001 - 1:29 am: | |
Just be aware that it is a Euro spec car - so parts and service might be an issue. Also the early TRs had TRX rims and tires, somewhat difficult to get. I have an early 88TR (knockoff 16" rims/2 low mirrors) - I've never seen red carpeting like that & the mats can be ordered from a number of companies.
Good luck and good hunting! |
Randy (Schatten)
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2001 - 12:42 am: | |
40,800 miles - looks very clean. Just hope service records are all up to date. Right now, four days and a few hours left - at five bucks under 50K, the reserve is met. |
Dave Wapinski (Davewapinski)
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2001 - 12:06 am: | |
Normally I do not like interiors like this, but for some reason I am attracted to this one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=596873158&r=0&t=0
Is this a common interior to include the floor mats?
For better safety, is it practical to put a second side mirror on the right side?
Want the car mainly to drive, not to warehouse.
Thanks, dave |