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William H (Countachxx)
Advanced Member
Username: Countachxx
Post Number: 3278
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, October 05, 2003 - 5:14 pm: | |
Fangio only raced 1 season with Ferrari, rest of the time he was with MB or Maserati |
Warren Balla (West662)
Junior Member
Username: West662
Post Number: 51
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, October 05, 2003 - 4:40 pm: | |
I do too Dr.Cosgrove. He deserves it. Ferrari deserves it. I just have a question though. MS has tied the world record with Fangio at 5 championships right? How many of Fangios championships were with Ferrari? |
William H (Countachxx)
Advanced Member
Username: Countachxx
Post Number: 3276
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, October 05, 2003 - 2:46 pm: | |
a yellow flag means that you cannot pass once you pass that flag station because there is something going on on the road ahead. if 1 car began overtaking the other before the flag station he can go ahead & continue the pass as long as he is aware that there is something up ahead that requires his attention. It may not be safe to stop mid pass once you are committed at speed |
Niels Schouten (250lm)
Junior Member
Username: 250lm
Post Number: 52
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, October 05, 2003 - 2:40 pm: | |
JPM lost his race in my opinion in his pitstop. Although he already know he had to go for the stop&Go he kept driving, coming in for his penalty (still on dry tyres) when he HAD to (within three laps). Would this have been done earlier the he didn't have to drive a complete lap in the pourring rain. That is why he couldn't catch Nick Heidfeld in my opinion! |
ryan (Ferrari_kid)
New member
Username: Ferrari_kid
Post Number: 43
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2003 - 9:11 pm: | |
they had a few threads about this in the F1 section. but summed up they said that the yellow flag was for rubens spin in the 2nd turn but the nearest flag station was at the first turn. so really even if he passed at that turn it would still be legal. but as the case has it, he passed along the straight making it legal anyway. |
Dr Tommy Cosgrove (Vwalfa4re)
Intermediate Member
Username: Vwalfa4re
Post Number: 1304
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, September 29, 2003 - 3:56 pm: | |
I REALLY hope he gets that 6th championship |
Mark Collins (Markcollins)
Member
Username: Markcollins
Post Number: 360
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Monday, September 29, 2003 - 3:47 pm: | |
Mark
yes he did need one more place but he was some 70 seconds behind Heidfeld at the end, his drive through cost him around 25 secs so he still wouldn't have made it, even if the fuel rig hadn;t have failed he still wouldn't have bee nclose enough so the thing that lst him the championship was Michelins lack of a decent intermediate tire |
Mark (Study)
Member
Username: Study
Post Number: 875
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Monday, September 29, 2003 - 3:41 pm: | |
JPM was given a stop-start penalty. Didn't JPM need one more points position to still be in the championship?
I hate when race officials decide championships on slight racing mishaps. |
Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Intermediate Member
Username: Amenasce
Post Number: 1419
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Monday, September 29, 2003 - 3:33 pm: | |
yes you missed the fact that MS passed Panis BEFORE THE YELLOW FLAG ZONE. |
Paul Bianco (Paulie_b)
Member
Username: Paulie_b
Post Number: 897
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Monday, September 29, 2003 - 3:08 pm: | |
we are obviously big MS fans! but these are the rules anyway. |
Paul Bianco (Paulie_b)
Member
Username: Paulie_b
Post Number: 896
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Monday, September 29, 2003 - 3:07 pm: | |
I cannot answer for Montoya's bump to Ruben. Those things happen and I was surprised to see that he got a penalty. As for MS, and as far as I understand, he passed the other car on the straightaway and right before turn 1 and the yellow flag. I could be wrong but that is what I understood. |
Robin Overcash (Robin)
Junior Member
Username: Robin
Post Number: 242
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Monday, September 29, 2003 - 3:05 pm: | |
Yes, he was already a nose past on the straight. The flag only applies to the corner...
-R
edit: looks like several people already piped in before I hit the 'post message button'.. sorry for the repeat. |
Thomas I (Wax)
Member
Username: Wax
Post Number: 418
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Monday, September 29, 2003 - 3:05 pm: | |
MS was passing before yellow flag. |
S. Brent Cardani (Brentc)
Junior Member
Username: Brentc
Post Number: 58
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Monday, September 29, 2003 - 3:04 pm: | |
There was some speculation that if he was passing on the strait, and the yellow flag was in the corner, it was a legal pass.
Mansour Ojjeh of TAG/McLaren apparently commented that they noticed this as well and were debating filing a complaint. |
Kurt White (Ferraribooks)
Junior Member
Username: Ferraribooks
Post Number: 114
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Monday, September 29, 2003 - 3:02 pm: | |
Ok,
So i'm watching the race on Telly over the weekend & witness the "bump" that JPM caused to Rubens car, and for this, he was given a stop start penalty, then not long after, MS passes on the yellow flag been waved on turn 1, yet nothing ocmes of it.
Did i miss something? |