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Jeff B. (Miltonian)
Member Username: Miltonian
Post Number: 622 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Sunday, October 05, 2003 - 11:30 pm: | |
He died Sunday. It's on the news. |
Paul Bianco (Paulie_b)
Member Username: Paulie_b
Post Number: 936 Registered: 1-2003
| Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 12:49 pm: | |
its a 360 for sure. look at the remains of the interior. |
ryan (Ferrari_kid)
New member Username: Ferrari_kid
Post Number: 36 Registered: 7-2003
| Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 12:44 pm: | |
my engineering teacher used to do accident investigations. i forgot to bring this up to him when i heard about it. i'll mention it to him tomorrow. i wonder how they came up with 80mph? sounds like a cop on scene trying to sound like he knew what was happening. from the article i read the crash happened near some condos. luckily no one else was injured. ...and some people wonder why bmw, ferrari, etc. offer factory sponsored driving schools. |
Manu (Manu)
Member Username: Manu
Post Number: 849 Registered: 2-2002
| Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 9:48 am: | |
HELL I've just seen the picture of the wrecked 360 Spider! I've never ever thought that Ferrari were hot on passive safety - my worst fears confirmed... |
Dave Janes (Sparetireless)
Junior Member Username: Sparetireless
Post Number: 163 Registered: 1-2003
| Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 12:06 am: | |
Exactly, 80? When, probably slowed to 80 after it hit a few things and laid about 1000' of rubber and then it was down to 80. Just an opinion based on burnmarks from re-entry. |
Jason (Jason)
Junior Member Username: Jason
Post Number: 53 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 11:23 pm: | |
quote:The seats are still attached, and the car broke behind the seats. The seatbelts in this car attach to the rear bulkhead, which is gone.
Interesting point. Apparently neither was wearing their seatbelt, but what if they had been? Seatbelts firmly attached in the buckles, wrapped around driver and passenger then the rear bulkhead which harnesses the belts gets ripped off the car. That can't have a good outcome to the passengers. |
Tom Bakowsky (Tbakowsky)
Member Username: Tbakowsky
Post Number: 667 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 7:21 pm: | |
Wonder if the engine will fit in y 308 |
Chris Coffing (Valence)
Junior Member Username: Valence
Post Number: 171 Registered: 3-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 7:06 pm: | |
Important things, good and bad: The seats are still attached, and the car broke behind the seats. The seatbelts in this car attach to the rear bulkhead, which is gone. |
Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Intermediate Member Username: Amenasce
Post Number: 1454 Registered: 10-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 4:35 pm: | |
well they dont do things in half ! |
Mr. Doody (Doody)
Intermediate Member Username: Doody
Post Number: 1845 Registered: 11-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 4:34 pm: | |
other than the teeth embedded in the LCD i'm sure the radio's probably fine, dave ;-) doody. |
Dave Burch (Merlyn)
Junior Member Username: Merlyn
Post Number: 150 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 4:25 pm: | |
I could use a radio, wonder if..........
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Ryan Alexander (Ryalex)
Junior Member Username: Ryalex
Post Number: 119 Registered: 8-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 4:20 pm: | |
Mark, I think that the car breaking in two is part of the car's build - I'm not 100% sure about the 360 but I know some of the midengined cars are assembled with a frame around the cockpit and one around the engine bay - this car looks like it might have ripped at that 'seam.' That said, better the engine snap off sideways than crush the cabin. |
dave handa (Davehanda)
Intermediate Member Username: Davehanda
Post Number: 1937 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 4:14 pm: | |
When do we see this on Ebay? "Easy fix, already have estimates for parts needed to make complete..." |
Kds (Kds)
Junior Member Username: Kds
Post Number: 232 Registered: 5-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 4:12 pm: | |
Maybe some of the lawyers here who have done accident work before (if any here have done some for that matter) or anyone else who knows where to get info on skid and relative speeds could elaborate of what a "likely" speed prior to the accident may have been. I looked it up online and it's too much work to calculate. But....I did find this little tidbit....... The average human will be able to excrete 5 inches of stool per second in a highly excited or frightened state, e.g. "I'm gonna die." Divide the length of the "skid mark" by 5 inches and you know the time span between when the decedent was aware that he was about to die and the actual impact.
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Mr. Doody (Doody)
Intermediate Member Username: Doody
Post Number: 1843 Registered: 11-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 4:04 pm: | |
i hope they at least lose their licenses. this doesn't look like an 8-lane highway --- they deserve some severe legal punishment. that's quite irresponsible. doody. |
DES (Sickspeed)
Senior Member Username: Sickspeed
Post Number: 6781 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 3:37 pm: | |
The more details that come to light, the more is sounds like they were going closer to 180, rather than just 80... i hope they get well. |
Jerry W. (Tork1966)
Intermediate Member Username: Tork1966
Post Number: 1021 Registered: 7-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 3:37 pm: | |
What a waste of a beautiful machine! These frickin goons get a little cash in their pockets and they think that transforms them into some sort of invincible gods. Disrespect the car's limits and it's gonna bite back! |
Kds (Kds)
Junior Member Username: Kds
Post Number: 229 Registered: 5-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 3:21 pm: | |
I just read that there were skidmarks about 100 feet long "before" the area where they exited the road at an estimated 80 mph. Ergo.....slowing down from something much faster, intentionally or otherwise. Gawd.....I remember the day Tim Horton died in his Pantera back in 74. |
Mr. Doody (Doody)
Intermediate Member Username: Doody
Post Number: 1837 Registered: 11-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 10:58 am: | |
quote:I wonder how much better the coupe would have taken this crash
me too, mitch. as a 355 spider owner, i can tell you that wasn't a happy picture to see! eventually we'll find out more accurately how fast he was going when the police investigation gets leaked or released. i seriously doubt it was something around 80. doody. ps: you don't think that'll buff right out alan?  |
Mark Collins (Markcollins)
Member Username: Markcollins
Post Number: 361 Registered: 7-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 10:54 am: | |
That is a frightening picture to see the car just break in two irrespective of speed |
Ryan Sabga (Sherpa23)
Junior Member Username: Sherpa23
Post Number: 178 Registered: 5-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 10:12 am: | |
"Sounds like he will need the services of our own Franklin Parker." Yeah but Frank will confuse the hell out of people because he will keep referring to the car as a Dino. "the dino is question"... "the said dino"..."he was allegedly going over 80 in his dino" etc. |
Mitch Alsup (Mitch_alsup)
Intermediate Member Username: Mitch_alsup
Post Number: 1136 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 9:26 am: | |
I wonder how much better the coupe would have taken this crash????????? |
Nebula Class (Nebulaclass)
Member Username: Nebulaclass
Post Number: 532 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 9:21 am: | |
And I thought the Kings' injury list was bad. |
TomD (Tifosi)
Advanced Member Username: Tifosi
Post Number: 4365 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 8:33 am: | |
apparently he can go to jail for several years for this in GA. There is a law about serious motor vehical accidents where people are injured. Sounds like he will need the services of our own Franklin Parker. |
Mitchel DeFrancis (4re308)
Intermediate Member Username: 4re308
Post Number: 1073 Registered: 6-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 8:24 am: | |
I totally think he was going WELL over 100 to cause that catastrophic damage to a Ferrari. Ferraris are among the best made and strongest cars ever. 80 mph would not do that much damage to a brand new car. |
Alan Leach (Speedy308)
Junior Member Username: Speedy308
Post Number: 207 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 8:20 am: | |
I'm with Ron, that looks like more than 80 mph to me, but then I'm used to bending steel frames and panels. Any of you new car guys can comment on aluminum vs. steel? |
Alan Leach (Speedy308)
Junior Member Username: Speedy308
Post Number: 204 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 8:03 am: | |
Undergoing restoration! "A Ferrai owner is not always a Ferrari driver" MAYBE that's why Enzo was so careful. Now all it takes is $$$$$$$$. |
Mr. Doody (Doody)
Intermediate Member Username: Doody
Post Number: 1834 Registered: 11-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 7:57 am: | |
where's the other half of the car, praytell? doody. |
Guillaume (Vancooper)
Junior Member Username: Vancooper
Post Number: 108 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 3:37 am: | |
Being a hockey fan I watched the Sports news and this was one of the main subject on the sports chanels. It was a black 360 spider with modular wheels and fender shields.
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Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Moderator Username: Lwausbrooks
Post Number: 2621 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 5:57 pm: | |
It was a 360 Spyder. |
Ron (Easy_rider)
Member Username: Easy_rider
Post Number: 769 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 5:32 pm: | |
You can see the driver's side headlight is clear though, not a pop up from a 355. Also the inside has the aluminum trim pieces of a 360. I think these are the optional 360 wheels. |
Mike Charness (Mcharness)
Intermediate Member Username: Mcharness
Post Number: 1063 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 5:15 pm: | |
If you look at the wheels, they look to me more like 355 wheels. |
Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
Intermediate Member Username: Ronsupercar
Post Number: 1074 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 8:08 am: | |
Yeah ! I heard about this in a radio morning talk show.. I was just going to start a thread on this... I can't believe a car can split in half like that if they were "really" doing 80mph..... |
Jason (Jason)
Junior Member Username: Jason
Post Number: 51 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 7:30 am: | |
Looks like a 360 Spider http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/0903/30wreck.html
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