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Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Senior Member
Username: Miami348ts

Post Number: 6326
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Sunday, October 05, 2003 - 5:55 am:   

Ultimate is a good dealer.
I may also hook you up with a couple of leads if you give me a bid better idea. My mechanic is a Lambo factory trained mechanic and has always customers that are selling.
Send me an e-mail, I will be in touch Monday/Tuesday.

Doody,
trust me, even if you have to go through the civil process, you can jank their license. All you have to do is coplain to the DMV who is in oversight of the dealers. They get several complains and the license is janked. it is just not done automatically. This is why the "New Auto Toy Store is always right, they are always NEW :-)
L. (Testaroja)
Junior Member
Username: Testaroja

Post Number: 175
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Friday, October 03, 2003 - 10:35 pm:   

Ultimate motor works in longwood florida its the oldest lambo dealer in the U.S. and I know them since '85 and they are not greedy people, very down to earth.
Ali Haas (Aehaas)
Junior Member
Username: Aehaas

Post Number: 117
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 2:43 pm:   

I have heard several people talk about Ultimate Motorworks in Longwood, FL, Lamborghini Orlando. They seem like a good dealership. I would call their service department excellent.

Even though I ordered a new Murcielago from Lamborghini of Atlanta because of a good price, I will not hesitate to have service in Orlando.

aehaas

I may add that I would not hesitate to have service in
Atlanta either, very good mechanic, dedicated.
Troy Watts (Troy_watts)
New member
Username: Troy_watts

Post Number: 22
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 1:23 pm:   

Frank,

After what I heard I'll never call them again!
Frank K Lipinski (Kaz)
Member
Username: Kaz

Post Number: 339
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 1:20 pm:   

Troy - Run - Don't Walk from them. Do a search on this site and read the news article how they were raided by the Feds...

If your dead set on them I'll go and check out the car for you.... I'm 15 minute away...
Troy Watts (Troy_watts)
New member
Username: Troy_watts

Post Number: 21
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 1:19 pm:   

Gentlemen,

Thanks for the heads up on Auto Toy store.
allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member
Username: Allanlambo

Post Number: 1106
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 1:08 pm:   

There is a silver Sv in Hawaii that can be had for 118,000. Higher miles, 30,000, but a very good strong running car. I know you can find 98 Sv's for 125-135,000.
Troy Watts (Troy_watts)
New member
Username: Troy_watts

Post Number: 20
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 1:06 pm:   

Allan,

I said I wanted to spend up to 150k. I know the 91-94 can be had for less than that. Most of the
SV's I have come across are in the 165-180k range.
Eric Eiland (Eric308gtsiqv)
Member
Username: Eric308gtsiqv

Post Number: 983
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 10:09 am:   

Troy...Ultimate Motorworks in Longwood, FL (next to Orlando) had an electric blue w/ acorn interior mid-90's Diablo Roadster (that was previously owned by some baseball star) for $150k. I looked at it back in July while in the area, and spoke with the owner of the dealership (can't recall his name) about the car. It was in excellent condition visually. Don't know if they still have it in stock or not.

Unfortunately, I don't know much about their reputation either other than the owner was very accommodating (gave us a full tour of the facility), the salesman was nice (but enjoyed poking fun at Ferraris), and the facility was very nice (but small). They also had a Murci, a couple of Urracos, a Silhouette, and a Jalpa in stock -- in addition to all the Bentleys. Their website is www.ultimatemotors.com

They specialize in restorations (had a Murci, an LP400 CT, and a rare vintage Ferrari undergoing restoration / rebuild). Apparently, the owner is very active in the concours scene.
Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Member
Username: Ralfabco

Post Number: 852
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 9:22 am:   

Mr. Doody.

Can you give me the # of the F dealer in MA ?
I want to order the 360 the way you described it.


... and some thought Lamborghinis were flashy !
LOL

Troy spend a lot of time with research on the
cars. You have to learn all the pros and cons
of all the models you are interested in. Don't
grab the first car you see.
Mr. Doody (Doody)
Intermediate Member
Username: Doody

Post Number: 1828
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 9:12 am:   

the way the laws work in FL, they can take a deposit from you and if they fail to return the deposit to you it is NOT a criminal offense. their license to deal cars is apparently never in jeopardy. it is a civil offense and you have to go to court to get your money back.

not all FL dealers are shysters, but one might assume that because of this insane laws, a lot of shyster car dealers locate in FL.

most states have strict rules about deposits. here in MA, dealers have to keep separate, non-interest-bearing accounts that are highly regulated. one screwup and the state can pull your license. the dealers don't screw up. in fact, the laws are so consumer friendly in MA (perhaps too much so) that you could order a bright pink 360 with custom fluorescent green interior and paintings of bunny rabbits on the fenders and if you choose not to buy the car once it shows, they still technically have to give you your deposit back (that's excessive, but apparently i'ts the rule).

before i knew better, i gave $10K to a FL dealer on a car that went into PPI and was substantially not as advertised. they gave me my deposit back, but i counted my blessings once i learned about the inane laws.

personally, regardless of their reputation (well, excepting Martin or anyone else i know or feel i know personally and would trust), i would not give any FL independent exotics dealer a deposit of any sort and would tell them this is because of the unacceptable laws in their state. if they won't deal without a deposit, then no deal. maybe the authorized F dealers, since they to some extent have to answer to FNA at the end of the day. perhaps there's some escrow configuration, but it probably just isn't worth it. it's not like FL is the epicenter of cars by any stretch.

doody.
Mark (Study)
Member
Username: Study

Post Number: 876
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 9:08 am:   

"buy cars wrecked, water damage etc, clean the titles, fix them up and sell them. They do a huge amount of Lambo business."


I always see beat-up looking trashed Lambos in the back. Then you see shinny clean looking Lambos in the fancy showroom. They really do a great job polishing cars :-)

Sales guys I've talked to all have one line- "this car is perfect."
allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member
Username: Allanlambo

Post Number: 1089
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 8:56 am:   

Not only do they not deliver cars, but i have seen the cars they sell in their ORIGINAL state when they buy them. They are hooked up with every insurance company, buy cars wrecked, water damage etc, clean the titles, fix them up and sell them. They do a huge amount of Lambo business.
allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member
Username: Allanlambo

Post Number: 1088
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 8:54 am:   

Troy, do not buy anything from the New Auto Toystore. Tell me exactly what you want, and ill help you find it. Why are you set on 91-94 if you want to spend 150,000?
Robin Overcash (Robin)
Junior Member
Username: Robin

Post Number: 243
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 8:54 am:   

Steer waaay clear of these guys Troy! I'm sure a dozen people will pop in with horror stories they've experienced or heard about them. If I recall, they take deposits on cars, then don't deliver. Good luck getting the deposit back... It changed management a while back and was involved in some fed raids if I'm not mistaken.

-R
Troy Watts (Troy_watts)
New member
Username: Troy_watts

Post Number: 19
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 8:10 am:   

Frank,

The new Auto Toy store.
Troy Watts (Troy_watts)
New member
Username: Troy_watts

Post Number: 18
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 8:09 am:   

Patrick,

I am Interested in a 1991-1994 Diablo.
Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
Intermediate Member
Username: Ronsupercar

Post Number: 1073
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 8:03 am:   

Maybe the seller is looking to see if you are for real about buying the car.. Their way of separating the dreamers from the purchasers..

I don't think it uncommon with high end purchases.
Frank K Lipinski (Kaz)
Member
Username: Kaz

Post Number: 335
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 8:01 am:   

Troy -
I'm in FL. Who's the dealer?
Patrick Denonville (Arizonaguy)
Member
Username: Arizonaguy

Post Number: 691
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 8:00 am:   

Don't take them off your list, just make sure the dealer isn't a flake, and have someone that you can trust look at the car. What model are you looking for?
Troy Watts (Troy_watts)
New member
Username: Troy_watts

Post Number: 16
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 7:58 am:   

Can someone explain to me what the situation is
with giving a deposit on a car located in the state of Florida. I was recently talking to a dealer in that state about a particular car. Should I take Florida cars off my wish list.
(I am looking for a Lamborghini, There happens to be alot of them in Florida)

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