| Author | Message | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1136 Registered: 6-2002 |
Very true James. I love the Pagani also. | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Advanced Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 2677 Registered: 10-2002 |
Taek Crazy is the word. BMW hoped to sell 1000 new RR's this year. They are only going to sell 500 but VW's Bentley (New Coupe) looks like it's going to sell very well and Adam really liked the convertable version. That's the point. There are a lot of very interesting cars out and coming out and the competition will be good for everyone including Ferrari. Allan It's funny in a way there will soon be million $ Lambo's. The Bugatti will have the same parent and many of the same engineer's will be involved in developing it. None of this is about who's car is better. These are all great cars. Some appeal to some, some appeal to others. Look at Pagoni. He came from Lambo and set off to do his own thing. His cars aren't my taste but anyone who dismisses them is IMHO an idiot. | ||
| Rikky Alessi (Ralessi)
Member Username: Ralessi Post Number: 372 Registered: 5-2002 |
These arguments that reappear every week or so really make me laugh, thanks. Anyway, I am glad, whether these times are reliable or not, that there are manufacturers out there that are trying to compete with Ferrari. This will only lead to better cars all across the board. How can one go wrong with that? | ||
| Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Intermediate Member Username: Stickanddice Post Number: 2161 Registered: 11-2002 |
Jim, I'm very anxious to see how Ford's GT will fare. Definitely not to be trifled with. Its crazy how many capable cars are going to surface within the next few years. I hope they don't try to cap it like they did in the 70s and kill the sports car market again. Johnny, As for the picture. Tasteless to say the least. I've volunteered in a few Special Olympics in CT, MA, and CA. They don't deserve stupid jokes like that. Cheers | ||
| Sunny Garofalo (Jaguarxj6)
Member Username: Jaguarxj6 Post Number: 935 Registered: 2-2003 |
Its funny that lap times are posted for different tracks, where some cars are better equipped for that track than another. These times prove what separates an exotic from a super exotic from a super car when it comes to real world performance. Regardless of a $100k price difference or a $10k price difference. What car (or cars) will consistantly turn in some of the best numbers at A N Y given track? Is it any surprise its a toss up between the Zonda and Murci? Heritage doesn't guarantee you performance and neither does a huge price tag. | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1134 Registered: 6-2002 |
You guys are going to have to resort back to the " there are million dollar Ferraris out there, but not any million dollar Lamborghinis" comments soon! | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1133 Registered: 6-2002 |
Awesome James, even more cars for Ferraris to be beaten by! | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Advanced Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 2675 Registered: 10-2002 |
One lap time I find interesting is that the new Ford GT is 5 seconds a lap faster than a 360 at Luguna. If that is true (It is from a reliable source but we all know how that goes) for approx 135K it will be a lot of car for the $. Another one that will be interesting is the 610hp Audi LeMans being built on the Gallardo chassis. As it weighs 3300lbs (same as Gallardo/ 492HP) it should be cool as well. I do think the Gallardo is better looking than the Audi LeMans. | ||
| Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
Advanced Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 3068 Registered: 4-2002 |
ACTUALLY ERNESTO , THAT IS MR LAMBS EARLY CHILDHOOD PICTURE BEFORE HE BOUGHT HIS WIG ( I AM NOT MAKING FUN OF HANDICAPPED PEOPLE SO DONT BASH ME)............... | ||
| spanky mcdoogle (Spanker)
New member Username: Spanker Post Number: 20 Registered: 9-2003 |
Allan, Allan, Allan, Are you still braging about how fast you Lambogini is? Maybe if it was a "Type R", you'd have something meaningful to say? Real men know that it's the driver that make the difference...and ultimately wins races. Contrary to popular misconception, big wings, test pipes, K&N filters and loud exhausts don't necessarily translate into faster cars. There are alot of limp-dicks on this board and the Bimbo board that you frequent that are too busy trying to find away to "get more horsepower", instead of learning how to drive. Real men know that the driving skill is the best investment one can make in order to get better track times... Keep it in your shorts, Allan. Some day, even you too will learn how to drive. Regards, The Spanker | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Intermediate Member Username: T88power Post Number: 1759 Registered: 2-2001 |
Johnny, is that a present day photo of Allan? Is that the point of the photo? Otherwise, very tasteless. Ernesto | ||
| Johnny Bravo (Ben) (Johnny_bravo)
Junior Member Username: Johnny_bravo Post Number: 85 Registered: 7-2003 |
Survey says...who cares which car is the fastest! They're all nice cars most of us on the board would love to own and some do own several of them. I doubt few of us here will ever get much chance to put those numbers to the test anyway. Useful info no doubt, but the constant bitching about it is pointless.  Yeah I know it's a bit tasteless, but gets the point across  | ||
| Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Member Username: Ralfabco Post Number: 858 Registered: 3-2002 |
Dan the later SV's have far superior brakes. The 99 SV also boasts 530 BHP. The car has improved considerably over the years. Driver skills on the track should be based on how the professionals perform. Obviously an ameteur running around in the latest and greatest cannot keep up with a pro running the track in a mid 80's GT. This is why the track time comparisons give an accurate indicator of how capable the cars are. | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1132 Registered: 6-2002 |
lol, Bruce you for one know about that! | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Intermediate Member Username: T88power Post Number: 1758 Registered: 2-2001 |
Allan, you little genius PROVE THEM BOTH: "i can obliterate a Ferrari in a straightline, and just barely beat one at the track." Ernesto | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1131 Registered: 6-2002 |
Ah, the gay Sonny Crockett enters the room. | ||
| Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
Advanced Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 3065 Registered: 4-2002 |
SORRY..IM TOO LATE HOW ABOUT THAT WIGS WORK WELL WITH CRAZY GLUE | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1130 Registered: 6-2002 |
I have already proven the straighline performance many a time. What have you proven? Dan, i have only found a time from a 87 Testarossa, which was 9.16 with a high speed of 135kmh. To show how the Nurburgring is really not a test of power, a 2002 Honda Civic Type R, turned a 8.47, with a high speed of 141kmh. | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Intermediate Member Username: T88power Post Number: 1757 Registered: 2-2001 |
Bruce, that was proven a long time ago. Ernesto | ||
| Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
Advanced Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 3064 Registered: 4-2002 |
HEY ERNESTO I CAN PROVE THAT HE IS A PUTZ......... BRUCE | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Intermediate Member Username: T88power Post Number: 1756 Registered: 2-2001 |
"i can obliterate a Ferrari in a straightline, and just barely beat one at the track." You can? Prove it please. | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1129 Registered: 6-2002 |
No you think its only .1 second faster. Either way, it counters every stupid arguement placed here. That the Diablo is way to heavy, that it cant brake due to its weight, the car is not setup as a trackcar, etc etc. It must do something right to overcompensate for the fact that it is too heavy, and still beat the finely tuned, race bred Maranello masterpiece, on a track where power is not as important as other features. I can live with the fact that i can obliterate a Ferrari in a straightline, and just barely beat one at the track. Im sure Murcielago owners can live with the fact that they can obliterate the Ferrari in any situation, as you can surely see, it obliterates it, on track and off. | ||
| Dan Gordon (Ferruccio)
Junior Member Username: Ferruccio Post Number: 231 Registered: 2-2003 |
Sorry to stop the fight but :Allen do you have any lap times for Countachs or early Diablos? Do you think early Diablos would be that far off the SV? If so why? | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Intermediate Member Username: T88power Post Number: 1755 Registered: 2-2001 |
Yes, Allan. Your dad's mightly V12 powered Diablo SV (well, one like it to be precise) is less than .1 secs faster than a lowly underpowered V8 Ferrari around the Ring. Impressive. Ernesto | ||
| Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Intermediate Member Username: Stickanddice Post Number: 2160 Registered: 11-2002 |
Andrew, As much as I love the Murcielago, calling it a supercar is a bit of a stretch. That level of play is better left to the Enzos and Veyrons. The Murcielago is a GT car. The concept was initiated as a celebration of the 350 GT. Lamborghini themselves call it their GT car. It is near inevitable to have car marques release new products at different times, so although the Gallardo may have the upper hand right now, it is comparable. Not only that. When Gallardo has come into this site, the 360 was constantly mentioned as the car that would best it. I do agree that they are not exactly comparable cars, but I think they are inevitable coupled due to the price range and their sporting qualities. I personally feel that the Murcielago is head and shoulders a better car than the Maranello, and my only basis for this is personal experience. I don't need track times or magazine reviews to tell me what I like or don't like to drive or what I feel. As for the Gallardo. It's being coupled with the 360 CS, not the normal 360. Even though I don't think it a fair comparison given their sporting qualities as well. One has dual climate control while the other is barely a street legal road scalpel. My take on those? Don't know until I drive them. I've driven a 360 but not a Gallardo, let alone a 360 CS. Cheers | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1128 Registered: 6-2002 |
It maybe a different style, but it was Ferraris answer to the Diablo, and now the Murcielago. | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1127 Registered: 6-2002 |
No Ernesto, you are wrong. I got involved here after seeing the limitless posts on Lambo vs Ferrari. Upon seeing the bullcrap being posted, i decided to show otherwise. Where are your math skills? Heres your math quiz: If track #1 is over a 1/10th of a mile shorter than another, two cars cross the finish line on each track in exactly the same time, what would happen if you reversed the scenario? Yes the car on the shorter track would now post a slower time. Whether it be by a 1/10 or 5/10ths. Ferrari does not win F1 by being 1/10 of a second behind does it? Moron. | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Intermediate Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 1451 Registered: 10-2001 |
Yes its the direct competitor in the market but not on the track.Different style , different philosophy. Get it ? | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1126 Registered: 6-2002 |
The 575 is the evolution of the Testarossa, which was in turn the direct competitor for the Countach and Diablo. In turn the Murcielago is the replacement for the Diablo. The 575 IS the direct competitor for the Murcielago. No ifs, ands or butts. | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Intermediate Member Username: T88power Post Number: 1754 Registered: 2-2001 |
Allan, little boy... YOU are the one constantly posting lap times, magazine articles, links, etc etc - proclaiming Lambos to be faster. YOU are the one with something to prove, with your inferiority complex. YOU are the one who seems to feel that you have to convince everyone that your daddy's Diablo is really really fast. So, for a person who is constantly talking about speed, lap times, etc, you certainly cant back it up cant you? Its all talk, isnt it? When it comes down to it, you want fast cars to just be able to talk about them, right? Pathetic... By the way, we already established that the short track is about on tenth of a mile shorter(you took math in high school before you dropped out, right?), a VERY NEGLIGIBLE length considering the Ring's total length. You say your is faster because it has bigger brakes, etc? Fine, prove it. Beat a 355 (there are plenty here on FChat), then you can brag. I track my 360 just about every two months, and although I admit I am no Schumy, I dont constantly BRAG or BOAST about it either, like you. Ernesto | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Intermediate Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 1449 Registered: 10-2001 |
The point is that there are no comparable Ferrari-Lambo right now. The 575 is a GT, The Murci is a Supercar The 360 is 4 years old , the Gallardo is brand new. End of story . I want to see lap times by a 512 TR vs a 92 Diablo.Or 308 vs Jalpa ..Even F40 vs Diablo GT. Compare what is comparable , not just bcause 2 cars are worth 250 000$+ . Whats next ? a Maybach vs Murcielago ? | ||
| Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Intermediate Member Username: Stickanddice Post Number: 2159 Registered: 11-2002 |
I don't understand. Allan says Lamborghinis are awesome. So the response is that they are overpriced and can't drive worth a damn. Allan then says that he has smoked his fair share of cars in his Diablo. So the response first claims that he doesn't even have a Diablo. Allan posts a copy of his title. So the response is to laugh at him calling him insecure and also claiming either way Lamborghinis can't turn worth a damn, let alone make it's way around a track. Allan posts pictures of lap times in various race tracks that are well known in the motoring community. So now the resonse is that the lap times weren't achieved by him? This is a bit ridiculous. Can't we all just come to the conclusion that Lamborghinis are very capable cars? He might be preaching they're better than anything else, but at least he substantiates his claims. Also, I don't think he ever claimed that he could drive in a track. I mean, really, guys. As a Lamborghini fan I've either contributed or witnessed just about every argument addressed or myth uncovered. Reliability. Everyday driving. Fit and finish. Maintenance. Resale value. History. Even alliances with Nazis! I think that's enough reaching. [flame suit on] Cheers | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1123 Registered: 6-2002 |
Actually the 80's designed Honda is faster than the Ferraris, not the Lambos. Well Ernesto, where are your laptimes? I love how you still point that the 360 can run with a Diablo Sv, when its already been shown, that it ran a shorter track, immediately giving the Diablo the win, and the Diablo used was a early model, not late model, like mine is? So i guess you think winning and saying i was very close behind are one in the same!lol Id take the Diablo in pink with blue pooka dots over a banana 360. | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Intermediate Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 1446 Registered: 10-2001 |
Allan , the 550/575 arent really track cars as a 360 or as a Diablo GT They perform quite well on the track but they were developped as GT . | ||
| Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
Intermediate Member Username: Hugh Post Number: 1478 Registered: 1-2002 |
Yah, but allan, the honda (that was designed in the 80's) is faster than them all... do you see how pointless all this bickering is? | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Intermediate Member Username: T88power Post Number: 1753 Registered: 2-2001 |
Yeah, Allan. Keep yelling out to the world �Lambos are Faster!!� Sad part is, when somebody actually calls your up on it and challenges you to an actual race, all you can tell him is �Well� ummm�. Here�s Car and Driver, and Road & Track, LOOK! I am faster� That�s all you can do, because you know if you actually take it out at the track, you will be embarrassed! Pathetic... The bottom line is that the 360 IS JUST AS FAST as your (should I say, your dad's) super duper Diablo SV with sexy chrome wheels, full of scoops, wings, and spoilers, with letters are over the sides. Very Racy! LOL� Your own N-Ring stats prove it. Whats the point of saying a car is faster, if YOU cant make it go faster? Just to be able to brag? P-O-S-E-R I'll make it wasy on you: Take your sex machine out, beat an F355, then come back and brag. Ernesto | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1121 Registered: 6-2002 |
Well Ernesto, boxed into a hole, and now to try and dig yourself out, you put personal driving skill as an issue. The arguement has never been driver A vs driver B, but indeed has always been Lamborghini v Ferrari. From the beginning it was always lamborghinis are fast only in a straightline, they have horrible brakes, they always break. Now its come to Allan cant drive on a race track.lol Im sure Ernesto that your just a regular Mario Andretti playing with your Tyco racetrack. | ||
| Augustine J. Staino (Azzuro328)
Member Username: Azzuro328 Post Number: 490 Registered: 4-2003 |
I like to think of my car's hue as Francis Albert Sinatra Blue. | ||
| Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
Intermediate Member Username: Hugh Post Number: 1477 Registered: 1-2002 |
Wooooooooooooohoooooooooooooooo A hon-DUH at the top of the charts. Neato. I'm actually really happy, and not b/c it's a Honda, per se, but b/c it empirically proves the old adage of "weight is the enemy." And, it goes further to prove that all the previous arguments on hp/0-60, max power, etc were , as I said then, innane. Why? b/c the car with the LEAST power ranked third, and, even better it's a car who's negine has probably the lowest displacement (out of the n/a contingent and overall). Oh, and it's got the smallest brakes too! I'm over the moon. Go Honda (oh, yeah, this has nothing to do with anything...) | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Intermediate Member Username: T88power Post Number: 1752 Registered: 2-2001 |
Lambos are faster? Fine, maybe... But YOU are not. YOU are just hiding behind OTHER PEOPLE'S lap times, magazine tests, etc. Ultimate poseur! Whats the point if a kid in a Civic can probably outlap you? What good are your magazines then? LOL... Ernesto PS... Yes, you ARE old... | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1118 Registered: 6-2002 |
Baby Blue 328, im 33. I know, i know, getting old! | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1117 Registered: 6-2002 |
Whats the matter, 2 well known racetracks, and it seems that the Lambos, are faster than the Ferraris. Im confused, i thought Lambos cant handle or brake, and are only good in a straight line? | ||
| Augustine J. Staino (Azzuro328)
Member Username: Azzuro328 Post Number: 489 Registered: 4-2003 |
Allan, Why are you skirting the question? | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1116 Registered: 6-2002 |
Haha now here comes Ernesto! When all other arguements fail, bring on the bullcrap! Why dont you take your little girlie banana 360 and try it, you big bad race car driver! Watchout for those Nsx's! | ||
| Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
Advanced Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 3062 Registered: 4-2002 |
ACTUALLY LAMBO MAN..IM WRONG, ITS NOT YOUR AGE, ITS YOUR I.Q. | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Intermediate Member Username: T88power Post Number: 1751 Registered: 2-2001 |
Allan, here's an idea. Take YOUR fully riced out, chrome wheeled, decaled out, NOS Diablo and try to run a 1:25 at that track, then you can brag. Ernesto | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1115 Registered: 6-2002 |
Bruce, is that how many times youve given oral sex to a male since yesterday? | ||
| Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
Advanced Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 3060 Registered: 4-2002 |
13 | ||
| Augustine J. Staino (Azzuro328)
Member Username: Azzuro328 Post Number: 488 Registered: 4-2003 |
Allan, Speaking of numbers, exactly how old are you? Seriously? | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1113 Registered: 6-2002 |
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!  | ||
| Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Member Username: Ralfabco Post Number: 857 Registered: 3-2002 |
Did you hear a pin drop ? | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1112 Registered: 6-2002 |
Funny how when numbers are posted everyone get real quiet! | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1107 Registered: 6-2002 |
Well Mitch, maybe the track is much more about handling than power? Maybe you should ask yourself those same questions about the Nsx-R when comparing your beloved F1 inspired, race bred Ferrari's. Why do the Ferrari 575M,550 and 360 make soo much more power than the Nsx and LOSE TO IT? The Lamborghini atleast beats it, and runs hand in hand with cars such as the Pagani Zonda. As for the Diablo and Murcielago, id guess the biggest difference in handling is due to the Murcielagos 4 wheel drive. | ||
| Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Intermediate Member Username: Stickanddice Post Number: 2156 Registered: 11-2002 |
Jon, From what the salesguy told me. The Murcielago does have a reworked suspension and also a much stiffer chassis. Having driven the cars it is a noticeable stiff vs. loose feeling. If I can feel this as an average Joe I'm sure someone of your qualifications could definitely tell the difference. I remember seeing these. They are based on the same distance circuit. I thought I posted them in a previous thread, and recently refered to them and requested an inquirer to run a search. Cheers | ||
| Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Intermediate Member Username: Stickanddice Post Number: 2155 Registered: 11-2002 |
Mitch, Take it easy man. As for all those questions...Personally, my goal is not to purchase a car that is fastest by being lightest, with the least horsepower, with the smallest price tag. I think threads like these are overdue given how much bashing Lamborghinis have taken as crappy track cars that can only go in a straight line. Allan posted these without any negative tones or insulting tones. Although it wouldn't surprise me if he comes out lashing after responses like these. Cheers | ||
| Jon P. Kofod (95f355c)
Intermediate Member Username: 95f355c Post Number: 1083 Registered: 8-2001 |
Allan, At this years Tuner Fest the Gemballa/Porsche GTR600 driven by Klaus Kaufman did a 1.09 flat on street tires. An EVO VII did just over 1:14. The Murci in your post did a very fast a respectable time but the others are doing average times. A modified VW Jetta (Called a Bora over there) did a low 1:16. Hockenheim is not just about power (though that helps) it's also about handling. The Techart 996 Twin Turbo driven by professional Touring car ace Roalnd Ash I believe was at least 70 hp up on the GT600 but still coulnd't win the battle. Also don't forget that the Hockenheim circuit has changed somehwat over the past three years so make sure you are using lap times from the same years. Why is the Murci so much better balanced than the Diablo. Didn't know that they had made such a suspension leap over the Diablos. Regards, Jon P. Kofod 1995 F355 Challenge #23 www.flatoutracing.net | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Intermediate Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 1434 Registered: 10-2001 |
Taek , i love the Diablo GT , its one of my fav but it should be faster than that ! Its supposed to be a lightweight 580hp Diablo ! How come its just a tad faster than a 360 ? The NSX-R is a mistery ! | ||
| Mitch Alsup (Mitch_alsup)
Intermediate Member Username: Mitch_alsup Post Number: 1127 Registered: 4-2002 |
The Diabolo has 100 HP more than the 360 and runs 0.5 sec faster--woop-de-friggen-do! The NSX-R has a 200 HP less then a Diabolo and runs 0.2 seconds slower than the Diabolo--woop-de-friggen-do! Question, why does the Diabolo require so much HP to stay ahead of the NSX-R? Question: What kind of tires were allowed/used on these runs? Question: What would a 360 CS do? | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
Advanced Member Username: Timn88 Post Number: 3439 Registered: 6-2001 |
yeah i know, i just wanted an excuse to use that pic before dave finds it and posts it in every thread along with the rest of the pics which he stole when none of them have anything to do whatsoever with the topic at hand, and which serve no purpose except to waste bandwidth and prove that he is too unoriginal to make his own images at least some of the time. | ||
| Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Intermediate Member Username: Stickanddice Post Number: 2154 Registered: 11-2002 |
Any times for the Diablo GT-R? They are certainly faster than the GT. Andrew, Why was the GT a disappointment? I think they're pretty cool. Cheers | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Intermediate Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 1433 Registered: 10-2001 |
The Diablo GT is a real disappointment. I wonder how fast the CS will be. | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1104 Registered: 6-2002 |
Not from Magazine. | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
Advanced Member Username: Timn88 Post Number: 3438 Registered: 6-2001 |
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| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 1100 Registered: 6-2002 |
Found some more laptimes for street cars. Lambo Murcielago- 1.12 Lambo Diablo Gt- 1.14.4 Ferrari 575M 1.14.7 Ferrari 550 1.16.1 Ferrari 360 1.15.1 Lotus Esprit 1.15.3 Acura Nsx-R 1.14.6 Pagani Zonda C12S 1.11.8 Techart GT3(one of the fastest cars at the Ring with a 7.43) 1.12.3 Also lists acceleration where it was interesting to see the Lotus was almost 1 second faster than the 360 in 0-200kmh. |