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1989 328 GTS (Vilamoura2002)
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2001 - 2:34 am:   

I absolutly abree with Russ Moore, but to have the complete set I would have side by side ...308 GTB(vetro)...328GTS...512TR...512BB.
This is my dream.I hope I will have this set in a couple of years.
Modified348ts (Modman)
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2001 - 12:39 am:   

From what I have seen, the 328 holds their value very well and it has the ferrari lines of what people recognizes it to be. If I had one I wouldn't sell it for at least 2 decades. I remember several years ago there was a time when 308's went up in prices more than what they sold for new. You have to research the market carefully and it can change from year to year. You would have to ask yourself weather you want to collect or go for something with more power and modern features with luxury. For the most part money does come to play..
Michael A. Niles (Man90tr)
Posted on Monday, December 03, 2001 - 10:27 pm:   

Great advice William.
Russ Moore (Rem9)
Posted on Monday, December 03, 2001 - 8:49 pm:   

I suggest you get the 512 and keep the 328 if at all possible. Each has it's attractions and both will be appreciated as the mood strikes. I have an 87 328S and an 86 TR. Very different cars with the ability to satisfy a multiple number of senses. Looking at the pair side by side is pleasing in itself.
Russ
William H (Countachxx)
Posted on Monday, December 03, 2001 - 7:45 pm:   

LOL :) Make sure u r pointed in a straight line when u stomp the gas on a 512TR
Michael A. Niles (Man90tr)
Posted on Monday, December 03, 2001 - 4:12 pm:   

Personally, I think there is nothing like the smoothness and torque of the F-12. Given a choice I would have both the 328 and 512. The 355 is a little too refined for me. I recommend you drive the 355 stomp on the gas and then do the same in the 512 -- then take your decision.
1989 328 GTS (Vilamoura2002)
Posted on Monday, December 03, 2001 - 3:39 pm:   

Steve, I think you have done the most inteligent choice.
If one day you want to sell your 328 just buy a 355.
But if you want a 512 or a TR keep your 328 as well.
This is my personal opinion :-)
Stephen Wheeler (Smij328gts)
Posted on Monday, December 03, 2001 - 2:32 pm:   

HI,

Thankyou all very much for your very imformative posts - my car was titled (registered) in 1990 but in fact it is a late 1989 car when production ceased. The 512 TR is up for £64K (sterling) from a large UK Ferrari dealer (the same one that I brought my 328 so I possibly could do a deal) - but after reading all your posts it sounds to me that the maintenance costs will be too much for me :-(

Anyway I love my 328 & maybe one day I will make that step to the F V12 world.

All the very best

Steve
William H (Countachxx)
Posted on Monday, December 03, 2001 - 12:27 pm:   

Stephen, I have an 84 308QV & a 93 512TR. The power of the flat 12 is intoxicating, so is the sound once u install a tubi :) That said it wont handle or brake as well as your 328.
I spend at least $10k a year in maintenance on my 512TR. The power is addictive but it also east tires quickly & u have to be careful about the transmission cus if the first owner did burnouts in the car it could easily have damaged the trans.
As with any car my advice is to have an independent mechanic check it out & look over the service records. If the car has not had its 15,000 mile/3 year service it will be due now, no matter the milage & b prepared to spend at least $10k US for that. Good Luck
Martin (Miami348ts)
Posted on Monday, December 03, 2001 - 12:27 pm:   

Steve;
the 328 was stopped all over the world at the same time. That is to my knowledge. The 348 replacement was first delivered in Europe and a few months later came to the US. So in theory the 328 1990 should be a US car if at all.
I think though why he is writing 1990. In Europe it is not the production year or model year that really counts but when the car was titled. So the car could be a late 1989 but was titld in 1990, which makes it for the Euro Market a 1990.

Yes, the question is HOW MUCH MORE!
Steve Magnusson (91tr)
Posted on Monday, December 03, 2001 - 11:50 am:   

Martin -- Stephen's 328 is not a US version so 1990s may exist -- same thing on 308 GTB/S where there are 1980 Standard (Euro) 308 GTB/S, but in US version all the 1980's are 308GTBi/Si.

Stephen -- I'd agree with Willis and Frank that even with only 5K kilometers, a 7-year-old is due for a major refresh, and that a 512TR has more room to come down than a low-mile 328 (also there are many more potential buyers for a low-mile 328 compared to any 12-cyl car so the 12-cyl prices always get pushed down a little just for this). Still, as I've said before, IMHO any F can be a good value -- all depends on the price. Your message implied a "trade", but don't you mean "trade + cash"? -- if so, how much cash?
Martin (Miami348ts)
Posted on Monday, December 03, 2001 - 11:33 am:   

In general I would go for the 512. It is a great car and great fun to drive. So much different than a 328.
I would not pay a premium for low miles though. Keep Willis thoughts in mind.
A 512 can be bought for mid 80s if in nice condition. Some are still dreaming about $ 120K, no way...

Value, I'd say the 512 is going to stop falling at about that $80K. I was offered a red one for $ 78K but needed 30K inspect.

You need to get the car inspected. Make sure someone checks the engine and belts and pullys.

12 is more money than 8 but if maintained right you should have no worries just as with the 8. drive drive drive
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Posted on Monday, December 03, 2001 - 11:27 am:   

I would keep the 328. While the 512TR is faster, it will be MUCH MORE expensive to maintain. And, contrary to previous posts, the 512TR is likely to depreciate more than the 328. For some reasons the TR and 512TR line has not maintained value very well with no end in sight.
Martin (Miami348ts)
Posted on Monday, December 03, 2001 - 11:26 am:   

How can you have a 1990 328GTS when they only made them till 1989?
Willis Huang (Willis360)
Posted on Monday, December 03, 2001 - 11:11 am:   

Hmmm...low mileage and 7 year old 512TR (I've got more miles than that in my 7 months old 360!). I wonder if it already had the 30k mile service and all the belts changed? That service alone will set you back a pretty penny because it's an engine out deal. Since it wasn't driven often, other things might go wrong too. You'll be better off with a 512TR that was driven often and already had the big service done.
BretM (Bretm)
Posted on Monday, December 03, 2001 - 10:55 am:   

The 12 cylinder cars hold their value significantly better (after the inital depreciation of a new model coming out), but the 328s have depreciated quite a bit already, so how much lower they'll go is questionable. In the long run though, a 12 is a better "investment" regarding that.
The 328 is easier to maintain (driveway diy) than the 512TR and the 328 is significantly less expensive for services. But the younger 512TR might have less problems than a car that is 7 or 8 years older. The 512TR is a computerized car whereas the 328 is all mechanical.
I like the 512TR a lot, if I was going to buy a 12 cylinder car right now, that would be my choice hands down.
Stephen Wheeler (Smij328gts)
Posted on Monday, December 03, 2001 - 4:41 am:   

Hi,

I�m thinking about trading my red 328 GTS (20K miles - 1990) in for a Yellow 512TR can anyone advise me of what cost differences there are in terms of general maintenance to keep it in tip top condition. The car has only done 5K and is a 94 car.

Which model out of the two do you think will retain or even gain in value over the future years ?

Thankyou in advance for all your help.

Steve
United Kingdom

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