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BretM (Bretm)
| Posted on Friday, February 01, 2002 - 2:25 pm: | |
I don't even think we do that much in our region Adam in the FCA, or at least when compared to others. Most of our stuff is in Pennsylvania. I guess if you put together Empire and New England you could have a pretty good schedule that we could go to. |
TomD (Tifosi)
| Posted on Friday, February 01, 2002 - 11:03 am: | |
I think FOC depends on the strong regional guys which is why the northwest, cal and florida does well. There is a New york/Northeast region but I can never access the website for them |
Adam Goldman '86 TR (Icnsltmfg)
| Posted on Friday, February 01, 2002 - 10:49 am: | |
I am actualy getting real tired of the FOC or better known as Ferrari club of California. Everything in the newsletter and all events are geared to the west coast. The only reason I will stay is for those extra track day's, but I am not happy with them. FCA seems to be better balanced. |
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
| Posted on Friday, February 01, 2002 - 9:01 am: | |
I recommend FCA because it has more events all over the U.S.. The FOC seems to concentrate more in Florida and the west coast. |
Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
| Posted on Friday, February 01, 2002 - 8:39 am: | |
With that question you may be interested in the thread under "Regional Events/Info" and then "USA - South". |
Brian stewart (Eurocardoc)
| Posted on Friday, February 01, 2002 - 5:41 am: | |
I was interested to ask the FC board which they would recommend, FCA or FOC. Maybe we can find out? |
Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
| Posted on Thursday, January 31, 2002 - 12:53 pm: | |
That's a great idea. |
Mr. Doody (Doody)
| Posted on Thursday, January 31, 2002 - 12:36 pm: | |
Rob - have you contacted FNA to solicit advertising from them? The challenge is that they already own all of us, so it's not like they'll be necessarily closing new customers. We're the hardcore psychopaths. Maybe you should be soliciting Porsche NA instead ;-) doody. |
TomD (Tifosi)
| Posted on Thursday, January 31, 2002 - 10:13 am: | |
Yeah Rob We can form a F-chat union and boycott the site until they help out. They probably don't care |
Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
| Posted on Thursday, January 31, 2002 - 10:09 am: | |
I have registered several times and have never received anything. Oh and Manilo, want to have Ferrari cut me off a check or maybe a new 360 for your free advertising. How much does Ferrari make a year and I'm just trying to break even with $500 a month costs. |
Neville Pugh (Nevpugh68)
| Posted on Thursday, January 31, 2002 - 10:03 am: | |
Well Manlio, I've tried to register 3 times now with the owners site (using 3 different email addresses). The first and third times I had absolutely no response at all. The second time I did get a "welcome" email, but the details provided did not work (it just keeps saying "invalid username or password"). I even sent an email saying "help!" to Tiziana Mecozzi, but I never got a reply. Maybe you just dont like me :'-( {sob}{sob} :-) |
manlio (Manlio_Accardo)
| Posted on Thursday, January 31, 2002 - 9:09 am: | |
dear all, here is me again willing to give you fresh information about the Ferrari Owners' Site. I have to apologize for the log-in problems that some of you have had. our log-in procedure was complex but it was necessary to keep the Owners' Site restricted to owners. The PIN number that some of you received was given only to who has registered BEFORE the website went live. who has received the PIN number can go online, clik on "I have a PIN", choose username and password and he is in. AFTER the website went online there was no need for PIN numbers and the registration now is very easy. You only need to insert your personal information, your car's information and you can choose a username and password. Than you need to wait about 24/48 hours in order to give us the time to verify the information and activate your username and password. the good news are that 3 forums are now open. we have the CAR form, the MOTORSPORT forum and the VINTAGE form. through the forum and the CONTACT US you will have the chance to ask questions directly to us, here in maranello. moreover we are organizing to get our technitians at the forum page. so stay tuned if you don't want to miss them. You all know that on february 6th the new version of the 550 Maranello will be presented to the press. Well, the owners' site will give exclusive preview of the car one day in advance. It's the first time a car is shown to clients before it's shown to the press. February 5th is also the day of our first owners' site newsletter. Many other features will follow. visit us at www.owners.ferrari.com |
William Badurski (Billb)
| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2001 - 3:15 pm: | |
Some tips on locating serial numbers for the Daytona. Block, right bank at bell housing interface. Transaxle, on rear cover, easily seen from under car. Chassis, on frame rail going over left front shock. |
'75 308 GT4 (Peter)
| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2001 - 1:33 pm: | |
No rear axle number for mid-engined cars eh? I found this number on my differential cover (which makes sense as this part of the car is the rear axle):
Anyways, I got all of my pics and numbers, just waiting for my PW/PIN. |
William H (Countachxx)
| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2001 - 10:00 am: | |
No forum, whats up with that ? How about a forum & a place to contact Ferrari Spa? |
Chuck Rine (Chuck348ts)
| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2001 - 9:12 am: | |
Peter, Unfortunately, the Build Sheet request form does not give any guidance on where the chassis punch mark is found. Here is what the "Help" section says: "To obtain a copy of your car�s build sheet, just insert the VIN, the type and number of the engine, the type and number of the gearbox, the type and number of the rear axle, together with digital photos (jpg format) of the punch marks, and click Enter. Read the indications below to help find the relevant numbers on the car. The availability of your build sheet will be notified to you subsequently by an alert on your page. Engine number: The majority of front-engined Ferraris up until the 365 GTB4 have the engine punch mark on the crankcase on the right-hand side of the engine (ie. passenger side for lhd models, drivers� side for rhd models) near the clutch bell-housing. The most recent front-engined cars (456 and 550 series) have the number at the front of the block on the right-hand side. The boxer-engined models (365 BB, 512 BB, 512 BBi, Testarossa, 512 TR and M) have the engine punch mark on the top of the right-hand cylinder block at the rear. 8-cylinder models built from 1974 (starting from the 308 GT4) to 1989 (328 and 3.2 Mondial) have the number on top of the crankcase in the middle of the vee, at the front of the engine behind the water pump. Later V8 models (348s, F355s and 360s) have the number on the crankcase next to the oil filter. Gearbox number: Front-engined GTs built up until the early 1960s (eg. the 250 series) have the gearbox number on top of the gearbox housing where it may be necessary to remove the central tunnel to see it. The alternative is to put the car on a hoist and use a mirror to see the top of the gearbox and read the number. On both the 456 and 550 series (transaxle layout), as well as being stamped on top of the gearbox housing, the number is also stamped underneath, almost in line with the half-shafts, so that it is visible from under the car. BBs and Testarossas have the number stamped on the rear side of the gearbox housing. On the mid-engined V8 models the gearbox number can only be found by putting the car on a hoist. The number is generally on the bottom of the gearbox housing (see illustrations for the most popular models). Rear axle: All the front-engined models (including the latest 456 and 550 series) have the axle number stamped on the rear plate behind the axle, and the number can be read fairly easily by looking under the tail of the car once its up on a hoist. The mid-engined models do not have a rear axle number." |
Chuck Rine (Chuck348ts)
| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2001 - 9:06 am: | |
You have to be logged in to get to the "vintage" site. |
William Badurski (Billb)
| Posted on Sunday, December 23, 2001 - 12:09 pm: | |
How do you reach the "vintage section"? I tried going through the "owner's site" but could not proceed even with login and password. Is this vintage section beyond the owner's site screen? |
david schirmer (David)
| Posted on Saturday, December 22, 2001 - 11:38 am: | |
I don't know what the difference between the PIN and the password is. I haven't tried recently, but so far I have been unable to access the site. I agree that with the holiday season upon us that I will probably have to wait until next year. |
Neil Green (Neilg)
| Posted on Saturday, December 22, 2001 - 9:42 am: | |
Curious as to what is the difference between having a password vs a PIN? I received my email back confirming my registration to the website was complete (with my chosen password), but checking out the site further I see a PIN appears to get you into other features within the Owner's Site? Any information on how to obtain one (and what the difference is)would be appreciated.... |
Neil Green (Neilg)
| Posted on Saturday, December 22, 2001 - 8:32 am: | |
Chuck, thanks for ther detailed information on how to order build sheets. I never looked under Vintage....this process is going to force me to purchase a digital camera (or ask for one for Christmas)! |
Craig Hess (Crag)
| Posted on Saturday, December 22, 2001 - 7:06 am: | |
David, I registered on 12/17 and haven't gotten a PIN either. I emailed Manlio Accardo on 12/19 and in his response he indicated that the server was down and that my user name was approved and a PIN number had been assigned and that an email would follow as soon as the server was up. The site was up this morning, but I still don't have a PIN. Considering the timing with Christmas and New Year, I don't expect to hear much until after the Jan 1. |
'75 308 GT4 (Peter)
| Posted on Saturday, December 22, 2001 - 3:40 am: | |
With my recent engine rebuild, I took photos of all of these numbers. Cool! P.S.: For chassis number... "Punch mark present on car" Does that mean the one stamped on the frame tube by the rear shock absorber? |
Chuck Rine (Chuck348ts)
| Posted on Friday, December 21, 2001 - 12:39 pm: | |
Neil, Regarding you question to Manlio re: Build Sheets, here's what I found after logging in to the owners site: To order a build sheet, you have to go to the "Vintage" section, choose "Historic archive" and then choose "Build Sheet." An order form will come up asking for the following information: Registration number (VIN) Type and number of engine Type and number of gearbox Type and number of rear axle (if applicable). You also have to supply (upload) the following digital photos: Photo of car exterior Photo of engine number Photo of gearbox number Photo of chassis number (punch mark present on the car) Photo of rear axle number Clicking on "More Info" will tell you where to find all of the necessary numbers on the car. I haven't ordered a build sheet yet, but plan to take the photos this weekend and complete the online form. |
david schirmer (David)
| Posted on Friday, December 21, 2001 - 11:45 am: | |
I still haven't gotten my PIN. How long did it take for you guys to get yours? |
Neil Green (Neilg)
| Posted on Friday, December 21, 2001 - 11:36 am: | |
Manlio, a great website being provided by Ferrari. Have since registered my '77 308GTB. Am very interested in obtaining a build sheet of my car. Is this feature available on the website for 308's at this time? Curious as to whether any FerrariChat members have come across the link on the Ferrari Owner's Site on how to order these? Thanks in advance. |
1989 328 GTS (Vilamoura2002)
| Posted on Thursday, December 20, 2001 - 4:31 am: | |
I sent 2 e-mails already to [email protected] asking information about the Ferrari driving courses. They answered me with the same information that you can see on Owners Ferrari Page which is almost nothing.On the end of these e-mails, they suggest me to get in touch with my official Ferrari dealer, which I did. Do you know what they told me? "We have been trying since the beggining of those courses to subscribe a lot of Portuguese Ferrari owners and it has been always full. No one could get in till now" My question is, if they can't subscribe any one 1 - why are they making advertisement about the courses on the page? 2 - why are they asking me to contact my Ferrari dealer knowing that they can not give an answer? 3 - why are they not giving directly the correct answers to the questions? |
Jason Fraser (Jfraser)
| Posted on Monday, December 17, 2001 - 5:38 pm: | |
Hi Manlio, I spent most of the weekend playing on the new website....It's a great concept, and I think that the idea has a lot of potential. Whilst there are a few bugs that need to be worked out, I am glad to tell everyone here that the backup response is very good....I have already ordered a couple of products off the site, and there was some problem with the credit card processing at the bank....I asked to be contacted in order to sort out the issue, within a couple of hours I had been contacted by both phone & email and the problem was resolved. In terms of future site enhancements, I think it would be great to have my cars' service history available online in the 'garage section'....I also think this would be a good area for customer/dealer interaction (maybe get service reminders from them etc) or notify us of any service campaigns for the car.....I am sure you have lots of plans for the future...good luck Jason Fraser (p.s. in the garage section under the car specs for a Modena 360 you state that the front tyres are 275/40 ZR18.....I think that it should be 215/45 ZR18 :-) |
manlio (Manlio_Accardo)
| Posted on Monday, December 17, 2001 - 5:00 pm: | |
dear all, It has been very cool for me to discover your chat line. i'll give an eye to it in these days and i'm sure i'll find many usefull information about different aspects of my work and passion for ferrari. Original build sheets are already available for many models. we will have all the models covered before spring. coming up next is the Q&A section where you'll be able to ask technical questions directly to the engeneers here in maranello. we have many other ideas. you'll see them. |
1989 328 GTS (Vilamoura2002)
| Posted on Monday, December 17, 2001 - 4:30 pm: | |
manlio, nice to hear from you and happy to know that you are one of our FerrariChat.com family. Merry Christmas from Portugal |
Martin (Miami348ts)
| Posted on Monday, December 17, 2001 - 2:58 pm: | |
Manlio; thanks for stopping by. Thanks for taking the task of the owners site. I am sure once everything is working okay this will be a much used tool for Ferrari owners. I have heard already some great things that are supposed to happen on the site, spec sheet similar to the "built-sheets" will be a great addition. Maybe you should have a discussion with Rob about link exchanges on both of these great sites. They are so much related to each other and both made for true Ferraristi. Thanks again for being here. |
Ben Lobenstein 90 TR (Benjet)
| Posted on Monday, December 17, 2001 - 2:20 pm: | |
Hi Manlio, Welcome to the discussion! I'm sure all the troubles will get worked out in time. Thanks for finding us and please keep us up to date on changes/updates to the owners site. As well please contribute in other areas, we all have the same passion, and everyone on this site has the same Ferrari Red blood in their veins. Glad to have you around! -Ben |
Bill Sebestyen (Bill308)
| Posted on Monday, December 17, 2001 - 2:18 pm: | |
Manlio, Welcome to this very special site. Please visit us and contribute as often as possible. I look forward to registering with www.owners.ferrari.com Rob, I think adding a link, to the above site, would be helpful. Bill |
manlio (Manlio_Accardo)
| Posted on Monday, December 17, 2001 - 11:56 am: | |
Dear All, I'm Manlio Accardo, the Marketing Manager of Ferrari Owenrs' Site. It happened to me so visit this web site and I have been very happy to find a discussion about our new website. I just want to clarify some points with you since I have seen that there is quite a big interest, but unfortunately, some troubles in the use of the web site. 1)the web site database is stored in our secure server here in Maranello. No data will be ever given to third parties, if not for proceeding some business practices (i.e. bank payments). 2)through the web site it will be possible to "search for an owner". No member names will be given but only nicknames. most of all you'll be asked for permission before we furnish your nickname. 3)If you have received the email with the PIN number please click on "I have a PIN". once you have filled the field you can compleate your registration choosing a username and password. 4)after you have completed your registration it will take few minutes for your member name and password to be active and you can log yourself in. 5)if you do not have registered already, you can register by clicking on "register online here". we will need to check your data before giving you access to the web site (only clients can access the site and we want to be sure. we want to keep the web site very exclusive). You will be receiving an email which confirms your username and password. (this process can last for max. 48 hours) 6)we apologize for some technical problems that have happened in this first few days. the site has been tested for long time but some problems have appared in the last days. we are actually working 24/7 to fix everything. registration processes should be ok now. 7) As you correctly pointed out the Dino 308 GT4 is not listed on the web site. tomorrow it will be present, no warries. sorry about that. 8)I'm actually working to understand whichn is the problem with the 348TS which turns out to be 348 TS Europa. 9)the ferrari world club site does not have anything to do with the owners' site. the FWC site was developed for fans (basically F1 fans).- our web site is thought for owners and it offers informations, services and products which are highly related to ferrari ownership. 10)Web site offers information and historic original document of every historic car ever produced by ferrari. from january historic spare parts and form will ba available. sorry for being so long. please contact me should you need any additional information. |
Martin (Miami348ts)
| Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2001 - 11:34 am: | |
Thank, I did find the Dino 208. Was looking at 208 and 308 not Dino. One of the confusions is that if you upload your other car your get a red message back saying you have entered the data correctly, Ferrari will verify them. I am so used to red messaged that say incorrectly that I input it over and over. It also does not appear immediately on your profile. Here is another confusing thing: My 348Ts comes back as a 348TS Europa. I know my car ia a US car not a Euro car. Not that I care but it is just not the case. Any other 348 owners having the same problems ? Hey Peter, the 308 is not a Ferrari but my 208 is. The 2.0L engine is a true Ferrari engine...just joking around |
'75 308 GT4 (Peter)
| Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2001 - 1:17 am: | |
I just sent them an email concerning the absense of the 308 GT4 on their list. I'd be VERY pissed off if they consider my car NOT to be a Ferrari. |
Viken Bedrossian (Vikenb)
| Posted on Saturday, December 15, 2001 - 11:44 am: | |
Sounds a lot like the Ferrari World Club I joined a couple of years ago. Only that one costs money and is open to anyone (owners or fans). Not much substance there either. For those of you who do not know FWC, here's a link that tells it all. Or, should I say, tells little. :-) http://www.ferrari.com/cgi-bin/fworld.dll/ferrariworld/scripts/yourf1/you_ferrari.jsp |
Alex Vivaldi (Vivaldi)
| Posted on Saturday, December 15, 2001 - 11:08 am: | |
I had some trouble logging in first time as well, getting the "the operation was not performed" notice. I got past it by re-entering every field in the form. Couldn't just correct or modify an erroneous field. Real problem is lack of anything of substance (yet - I hope). No spare parts, no forum, no technical info on older models, no service hints, no ability to ask a technical question... Haven't found much of a reason to get back to it. |
Adam Goldman '86 TR (Icnsltmfg)
| Posted on Friday, December 14, 2001 - 4:54 pm: | |
Cannot even get the log-in page to open. They should have stress tested the site prior to launch, as I insist all my clients do. Will try again over the weekend once they recycle the servers. Tisk Tisk |
1989 328 GTS (Vilamoura2002)
| Posted on Friday, December 14, 2001 - 4:29 pm: | |
I have had no difficulties on logging in |
1989 328 GTS (Vilamoura2002)
| Posted on Friday, December 14, 2001 - 4:28 pm: | |
Martin, I am sorry to tell you but that information is not correct. Have a look down where all Dinos are. 208GT4 is there but the fact is that I did not see 308GT4 |
david handa (Davehanda)
| Posted on Friday, December 14, 2001 - 4:25 pm: | |
Never been able to log into the site since first joining. Not sure what the problem is but they better fix it before everyone loses interest.... |
Eric Eiland (Eric308gtsiqv)
| Posted on Friday, December 14, 2001 - 4:07 pm: | |
Gave the owners' site a try -- here's my thoughts at present... The registration process is confusing, misleading, and needs to be revamped. I ended up with two username profiles as a result. The site is sloooooooow. Reminds me of the old 56k days -- I gave up after finally successfully logging in -- not enough hours in the day to browse that website. Tried to login again later, using the valid member name / password, and my access was denied! Go figure. Maybe the site is slammed, or I'm just having one of those days.  |
Viken Bedrossian (Vikenb)
| Posted on Friday, December 14, 2001 - 4:06 pm: | |
Ben, Thank you! I've tried to sign-up three times without success. At the end and after I enter the passwords, a message appears in red saying "the operation was not performed." It doesn't give me any reason either. So, at this point, I am going to abandon the idea of joining. Thanks again |
Ben Lobenstein 90 TR (Benjet)
| Posted on Friday, December 14, 2001 - 3:57 pm: | |
Viken - Not that I've discovered, alot of the concern was exactly to this effect. That now Ferrari can know where all their cars reside, and if some one that wasn't so trustworty got ahold of that info, it would make a great car theft ring. This is why I posted their code of conduct. I cannot speak on their behalf. -Ben |
Martin (Miami348ts)
| Posted on Friday, December 14, 2001 - 3:22 pm: | |
They send me mine as well. I wanted to add my 208GT4 and guess what...they will not allow Dino Ferraris to be entered. Guys with 308GT4 will have the same problem. The car is not even on the list. |
1989 328 GTS (Vilamoura2002)
| Posted on Friday, December 14, 2001 - 12:34 pm: | |
Jim E, Click on "have already a PIN' and type in the PIN number - click ENTER Then fill the window with name, nick and pass That's it! |
Viken Bedrossian (Vikenb)
| Posted on Friday, December 14, 2001 - 12:17 pm: | |
Ben, Does this site make public its members' names and/or other info? TIA |
Ben Lobenstein 90 TR (Benjet)
| Posted on Friday, December 14, 2001 - 12:16 pm: | |
I should clarify my post - I normally don't post links to other Ferrari Content Sites. -Ben Jimpo1- In the email sent to me, below my PIN was (maybe an email to this guy will help straighten you out): We look forward to welcoming you on the web site. Should you need any additional information, please do not hesitate to contact me by e-mail. Yours sincerely, Manlio Accardo Marketing Manager Ferrari Owners' Site [email protected] |
Jim E (Jimpo1)
| Posted on Friday, December 14, 2001 - 11:58 am: | |
I got my email today with my PIN, but it won't let me in. Tells me it needs more info, even though I've filled out everything they asked for. Very frustrating. |
1989 328 GTS (Vilamoura2002)
| Posted on Friday, December 14, 2001 - 11:28 am: | |
I am also a member of Ferrari Owners Site. Great site |
Ben Lobenstein 90 TR (Benjet)
| Posted on Friday, December 14, 2001 - 10:47 am: | |
While I rarely blatently post a link to another site, this time I feel it's warranted. Seems I got my entry ticket emailed to me for the site, so I've taken just a few mintues to test drive it. It's quite nice! It's kinda of e-zine, and store in one, with pics and stories of all aspects of Ferrari. Along with the ablitiy to order your very own 360 luggage, not that I have a 360 to fit it in. Anyway there is alot more to explore than I have time for at the moment. Just wanted to give folks an update that the e-post-man should soon deliver everyone's personal ticket into the site (as long as you have registered). Something nice to get before the holidays. I recall some hestitation regarding giving our personal info about what cars we own, etc. so I grabbed the Code of Conduct and posted it here...take it for what it's worth. -Ben from: http://www.owners.ferrari.com Dear Ferrari enthusiasts, Nothing can change the passion that, for over 50 years now, has motivated the people who work for Ferrari, as well as the enthusiasts and owners of the cars that wear the Prancing Horse badge. The world around us, however, is in constant evolution, opening up new opportunities for the factory to keep constantly in contact with clients. And today, the Ferrari Owners Site offers a revolutionary way to stay in touch with the Ferrari world. The Ferrari Owners Site was, in fact, set up with the idea of providing owners with in-depth content, services and information about products that give you an even better understanding of the marque and its cars. In the five areas in the site, you will find a compendium of many of the most distinguishing Ferrari features: sportiness, technology, craftsmanship, luxury. The Ferrari Owners Site was created above all as a service for clients. As such it is the nucleus of a programme that is destined to expand continuously to cover all areas of interest and provide additional benefits. Some of these services, like the Personal Address Book and the Forums, give you the chance to find other Ferrari enthusiasts with similar interests, and, if you wish, you can correspond with them, and join them in taking part in events, meetings and races. The Ferrari Owners Site gives you the chance to learn about and access all the activities organised for Ferrari owners throughout the world by importers, dealers and Owners Clubs. Like the services, the products in the Ferrari Limited Edition section are also part of a new exclusive line dedicated to Ferrari owners and available only through the Owners Site. The products will be made in limited editions directly by Ferrari or in partnership with brand leaders in the areas concerned. The Ferrari Owners Site also opens the doors to Ferrari itself through the Internet. We know that giving fast, adequate replies to your queries will be a difficult challenge, requiring considerable attention. And that is why we have an expert team based in Maranello, as well as in our major markets, whose task is to ensure that this new channel of communication responds to your needs and expectations. Your support and feedback are essential to us in successfully establishing this new line of communication. And it is for this reason that we would appreciate getting your input in two specific areas of this new initiative: In updating your personal data, your preferences and the cars you own, to help us offer tailor-made content and services. In informing us of any problems, or just simply providing suggestions you wish to make, by using the Contact Us section. On its own part, Ferrari pledges: To store and protect your personal data and not to use it in any manner that could compromise your privacy (e.g. by sending you material you have not requested) and to reserve access to the site and its services exclusively to Ferrari owners. To give a rapid and effective answer to any criticisms or any suggestions you may raise. To ensure maximum transparency with regards to levels of service and to everything you can and should expect from the site. We believe this initiative will write a new chapter in the story of our customer relations and make the ownership experience even more rewarding and exhilarating than in the past. |
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