| Author | Message | ||
| Richelson (Richelson)
Member Username: Richelson Post Number: 729 Registered: 12-2001 |
That is very true Tim. I agree. The service shop will be more than happy to repair it for $$$. | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
Intermediate Member Username: Timn88 Post Number: 1009 Registered: 6-2001 |
Do it if you want to, but dont be too suprised if you break something. Im sure your local ferrari servicer can give you alot of tips on how to do burnouts. | ||
| Richelson (Richelson)
Member Username: Richelson Post Number: 727 Registered: 12-2001 |
Simple, Don't DO IT!!!!! Save your clutch and about $2K at least!!!! | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
Intermediate Member Username: Timn88 Post Number: 1004 Registered: 6-2001 |
Anyone ever seen "Ferris Beuler's Day Off?? | ||
| Jack (Gilles27)
Member Username: Gilles27 Post Number: 345 Registered: 3-2002 |
Yeah, that brings back memories of looking out my old apartment window and watching the restaurant valets park cars. | ||
| bruno bandaras (Originalsinner)
New member Username: Originalsinner Post Number: 16 Registered: 5-2002 |
When I see this and I see the surronding buildings with garge doors etc. an obvious commercial building area. I wonder if you dont own a repair or body shop or tire shop etc. and if that isnt maybe a customers car.Every Ferrari owners worse nightmare. Without really knowing you and seeing the pics it was the first thing through my mind. I | ||
| Jim E (Jimpo1)
Member Username: Jimpo1 Post Number: 462 Registered: 7-2001 |
I watched all 3, kept thinking "watch out for the WALL!" | ||
| Cmparrf40 (Cmparrf40)
Member Username: Cmparrf40 Post Number: 268 Registered: 3-2002 |
That is so bad........... I am still laughing........... | ||
| joe saldana (Ironjoe)
Junior Member Username: Ironjoe Post Number: 75 Registered: 12-2001 |
F---ING KILLER...... | ||
| Robert McNair (Rrm)
New member Username: Rrm Post Number: 16 Registered: 5-2002 |
Smoke em' if ya got em'!! | ||
| Dave Wapinski (Davewapinski)
Junior Member Username: Davewapinski Post Number: 189 Registered: 8-2001 |
When I grow up, I want to be a big kid. | ||
| Modified348ts (Modman)
Junior Member Username: Modman Post Number: 224 Registered: 11-2001 |
Glad ya liked it Terry, of course I don't do this all the time, it was just for kicks and we had the video to this. The tires melted a little but were still good, it was melted down almost as equivalent to a full day at the track and probably 7 burnouts like that the tires would need to be replaced but hell was worth capturing on tape ya know! enjoy. | ||
| Jack (Gilles27)
Member Username: Gilles27 Post Number: 329 Registered: 3-2002 |
Pretty cool. Kind of tight quarters--glad you knew what you were doing! | ||
| Terry Springer (Tspringer)
Junior Member Username: Tspringer Post Number: 77 Registered: 4-2002 |
LOL Now THOSE are some burnouts! Bye-Bye Tires! Looks like fun, I love how the smoke is so thick its pouring out of the engine cover louvers as well. | ||
| Demetri Javier (Modmanscodriver)
New member Username: Modmanscodriver Post Number: 1 Registered: 5-2002 |
Here's some of Modman's burnouts in his 348 http://207.212.78.115/eclipse/modman1.wmv http://207.212.78.115/eclipse/modman2.wmv http://207.212.78.115/eclipse/modman3.wmv | ||
| joe saldana (Ironjoe)
Junior Member Username: Ironjoe Post Number: 71 Registered: 12-2001 |
Terry,so true about the 911,about 3 911s ago I had a 450 hp 930 slopenose this is the only bull that came out of the pen rippin... | ||
| Terry Springer (Tspringer)
Junior Member Username: Tspringer Post Number: 76 Registered: 4-2002 |
Wow! Im really surprised some guys think doing a burnout every now and then is so horrible. Nothing wrong with a little good, clean American fun! Next thing you guys will be saying that handbrake turns are a no-no as well. I had a series of early RX-7's and for sheer driving fun they were a blast. The only time I ever destroyed a clutch was when trying to prove to someone that you could not blowup the motor. I shifted into second gear at about 90mph... zinged the engine to well over 12,000 rpm (the needle wrapped back around past 8k to 3K again). The engine didnt seem to mind, but the clutch immediatly exploded! Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu The RX7 would not rev over about 9,000 when accelerating in any gear, I think it ran out of fuel and just would not rev any higher. Didnt much matter as the power curve tapered off over 7K anyhow. Those cars were a blast. Doing burnouts in a 911 is damn near impossible. They either hook up for a hard launch or you get wheel hop. | ||
| Modified348ts (Modman)
Junior Member Username: Modman Post Number: 221 Registered: 11-2001 |
Suspension makes a big difference especially doing burnouts and driving the direction you want to go. In one of my video pics I have a comparison to the 3rd generation RX7 turbo which had a hard time to even complete a full circle burning out. I could sit and spin 360's infinately and drive out of it and go the opposite way without any loss of control, all this in a very tight lot in between buildings. On a straight line pretty much any car can do a burnout- no big deal, I just like the fact that if my wheels spin and break loose on a fast sharp turn I can still hold the car without spinning out. I love doing sideway drifts on the 348 when entering a loop of the freeway, of course only when there are no cars around me. Sounds nuts but somebodys got to do it, and yes I am a very carefull driver but somewhat insane when traffic is clear and yet to hit anything or spun out on the 348, knock on wood but I know my limits through practice. Now fellas don't try this at home, he he, practice on a open track with no wall barriers. | ||
| joe saldana (Ironjoe)
Junior Member Username: Ironjoe Post Number: 70 Registered: 12-2001 |
Your missing half a car over two wide meats,an average of 1300 lbs on 2 tire patches about 3 inches by 8 inches,any rookie should start out on wet ashphalt,get the feel,start feathering your way to tire smoldering cement.Done wrong any stock F-car,P-car,(911) etc will grenade something..... | ||
| Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
Junior Member Username: Ronsupercar Post Number: 94 Registered: 5-2002 |
Let me ask you guys a question. Is it really that much different to burn out in a Ferrari then it is to burnout in a regular car.... I used to have a 83 rx-7 (in my younger years, fun car) and would burn that baby from 1st gear all the way to 4th.. I was always under the impression that more HP = easier burnout.. What am I missing? | ||
| Marcus Mayeux (Mmayeux73)
Junior Member Username: Mmayeux73 Post Number: 220 Registered: 4-2002 |
That's right, the VT's are AWD...thanks for the info Tim. James, Your friend has a sweet Rod!...I wonder if that engine is big enough though;) | ||
| Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
Junior Member Username: Ronsupercar Post Number: 91 Registered: 5-2002 |
Marcus and Tim, It is harder to burn out in the Lambo because all of the 94 and up are 4WD.. I think I read somewhere that the offical Lambo test driver in Italy know how to get the tires burning for a short time, and that's with practice on a car that doesn't belong to him....... | ||
| James Dixon (Omnadren250)
Junior Member Username: Omnadren250 Post Number: 209 Registered: 7-2001 |
Here is some footage of my buddy, Vince, doing a little, puny burnout in his Challenger with over 1100hp. The other video is of my friends mustang. This is the same car that I filmed racing the Porsche that many of you saw when Tim put up a bunch of videos last month. www.ranger1.org/madman/vince.mpg www.ranger1.org/madman/chris.mpg It's pretty useless to do burnouts unless you race in the 1/4. These guys were simply practicing their burnouts for the track. I always thought it was the rock'n roll headbangers that did burnouts!!! | ||
| Jay P. Ross (Eilig)
New member Username: Eilig Post Number: 36 Registered: 8-2001 |
With my rental 360 6-speed last year on the Autobahn, the last day before I returned the car, I too was curious about the burnout. So I found a deserted highway stretch in the rural parts outside of Munich, and here is what I learned. Obviously in order to do a burnout, you have to dump the clutch. I found that when I dumped the clutch below 6,000 rpm, the tires hooked immediately, it bogged for a second or two, and just launched hard. If in a race, this is ideal! But if the revs were over 6,000 to 6,500, it would burn the tires for split second before hooking up, bogging for a second, then launching hard again. The only way to keep the tires spinning is to keep the revs up there, in which case it just wants to pull all the way to 8,500 and you'll hit the rev limiter. So it seems in the mid-engined 360, there's a fine line between doing a burnout and just a hard launch. Get the revs low enough and you'll launch. Get the revs high enough, and you'll bounce off the rev limiter. Well, YOU ASKED... :-) | ||
| Marcus Mayeux (Mmayeux73)
Junior Member Username: Mmayeux73 Post Number: 218 Registered: 4-2002 |
Tim, that's it, I was a little fuzzy on the details...that would be great to post a pic. Thanks! | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
Member Username: Timn88 Post Number: 982 Registered: 6-2001 |
Marcus, i read that article, i have it in my room somewhere, i can dig it out and scan it for you. With the diablo a little bit of wheelspin was required to get the best launch and not kill the clutch. I think it said something like 3 wrong launches ant you needed a 9 grand clutch replacement. | ||
| Tenney (Tenney)
Junior Member Username: Tenney Post Number: 151 Registered: 2-2001 |
Hardly the first time a kid has laid the wood to Daddy's car. Difference in Tommy Boy's case is Daddy's car is an F-Car. | ||
| Marcus Mayeux (Mmayeux73)
Junior Member Username: Mmayeux73 Post Number: 215 Registered: 4-2002 |
I read an article in some car magazine(can't remember)one of the staff of the mag. was test driving a Diablo and wanted to do a burn out. The Italian driver said you will probably burn the clutch, but go ahead and try, never-the-less the test driver tried and failed @ a cost of $7500 to replace the clutch. The Italian gentlemen did it on a different Diablo with ease. I guess it all comes down with is experience and a big wallet! | ||
| Marcus Mayeux (Mmayeux73)
Junior Member Username: Mmayeux73 Post Number: 214 Registered: 4-2002 |
You guys are hilarious!  "The best way to burn out a Ferrari is to burn out a Ferrari."-BobD-Too Funny | ||
| Marcus Mayeux (Mmayeux73)
Junior Member Username: Mmayeux73 Post Number: 213 Registered: 4-2002 |
LOL!!! | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Member Username: T88power Post Number: 409 Registered: 2-2001 |
OH MY GOD!! How DARE you perform a burn out in a SPORTS CAR? Next thing you know, you will actually be going over the speed limit or accellerating quickly. Everybody knows sports cars, ESPECIALLY Ferraris, are only meant to go cruising, to auto shows, and to clubs/restaurants. Ernesto | ||
| Mark Eberhardt (Me_k)
New member Username: Me_k Post Number: 15 Registered: 5-2002 |
Alright, it's a little childish, but what's the point buy a toy if you're not going to play with it? They are still sports car aren't they? | ||
| Lawrence Coppari (Lawrence)
New member Username: Lawrence Post Number: 24 Registered: 4-2002 |
Anyone here over 16 years old? | ||
| Peter B. (Gts308qv)
Junior Member Username: Gts308qv Post Number: 196 Registered: 5-2001 |
It's been a while since I had a look at "FerrariChat". Now I know why! | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
Member Username: Timn88 Post Number: 981 Registered: 6-2001 |
Magoo, tire tread is way overrated. Andrew, 6k from a set of rears isnt bad at all! | ||
| Andrew (Mrrou)
Member Username: Mrrou Post Number: 335 Registered: 3-2002 |
last time i checked tranny's arent cheap ...when the rear tires needed replacing after 6000 miles he got the idea.. but he says if i brake the tranny i buy it... | ||
| Modified348ts (Modman)
Junior Member Username: Modman Post Number: 217 Registered: 11-2001 |
Gimme your email and I will gladly show you a video pic of me in my 348 roasting the tires till the cars disappears in the clouds. | ||
| Dave328GTB (Hardtop)
Junior Member Username: Hardtop Post Number: 157 Registered: 1-2002 |
Andrew, You better hope your daddy doesn't read this. Maybe if he makes you pay for a clutch or tranny, you won't be burning out anymore. Dave | ||
| Robert McNair (Rrm)
New member Username: Rrm Post Number: 6 Registered: 5-2002 |
Magoo, my excuse is I am new! | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 2788 Registered: 2-2001 |
I know I can leave this thread, And I will, But why is anyone with any intelligence posting on this subject? | ||
| BobD (Bobd)
Member Username: Bobd Post Number: 438 Registered: 3-2001 |
The best way to burn out a Ferrari is to burn out a Ferrari. | ||
| Robert McNair (Rrm)
New member Username: Rrm Post Number: 5 Registered: 5-2002 |
If it is a 308 bring her right up to 7700 rpm! | ||
| bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 275 Registered: 4-2002 |
BEST WAY TO DO A BURNOUT.. TAKE YOUR FRIENDS F-CAR, TAKE IT TO 6500 OR 6800 RPM, FLOOR IT IN 1ST GEAR, LET THE CLUTCH UP FAST, AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS BRUCE | ||
| Robert McNair (Rrm)
New member Username: Rrm Post Number: 4 Registered: 5-2002 |
I remember seeing kits you could install on your car which enabled you to hit a switch in the car and that would activate a trigger which would spray bleach on your rear tire which would enable you to smoke the tires. Pretty cheesy. | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
Member Username: Timn88 Post Number: 980 Registered: 6-2001 |
The best way to do burnouts is get a muscle car. They can take it all day and night and not miss a beat. | ||
| Mitch Alsup (Mitch_alsup)
Junior Member Username: Mitch_alsup Post Number: 53 Registered: 4-2002 |
Sounds sacreligious | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 2787 Registered: 2-2001 |
UNBELIEVABLE!! | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
Member Username: Timn88 Post Number: 976 Registered: 6-2001 |
i know a way that wont be hard on your clutch. Just go in a parking lot, idle along in 1st gear, cut the wheel and floor it. If you want to do a reral burnout, and possibly break your car heres what you do: put the left side of your foot on the brake, depressing it ~1/2 way, puth the right side on the gas pedal getting it as far down as possible, now with the engine at redline just pop the clutch. The car should sit in place and smoke them. An easier way would be to pop the clutch with the brake off, then hop on it when the tires start spinning. Brakestands will probably break your car though. | ||
| Mark Eberhardt (Me_k)
New member Username: Me_k Post Number: 12 Registered: 5-2002 |
The clutch slip method always results in buying a new clutch. My standard autocross launch (in a hot 308)does a fine job. You point the car straight (very important!!), put it in 1st, bring the engine to 4500 rpm, let go of the clutch(no slipping!) and push the throtle to the floor at the same time. You will have to try it a few times to find the rpm that works best, too low it lugs, to high it will sit and spin, usually there is about a 500 rpm window that works well. Cement tends to be a little slick, drop 500 rpm. Have fun, but please be careful! | ||
| Marcus Adolfsson (Marcusadolfsson)
Junior Member Username: Marcusadolfsson Post Number: 77 Registered: 10-2001 |
Hm... I practiced this two months ago. Just replaced my clurch (the throw out bearing went bad and other parts were worn) for the tune of $4500. Won't do that again. | ||
| Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
Junior Member Username: Hugh Post Number: 106 Registered: 1-2002 |
Sure, let me show you. | ||
| Andrew (Mrrou)
Member Username: Mrrou Post Number: 333 Registered: 3-2002 |
What I do is usually put it in first and really punch it..i floored it once but the car took contorl then...wont try that again... any ideas on doing a better one using a 6 speed and the clutch? |