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| magoo (Magoo)
Intermediate Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 1932 Registered: 2-2001 |
My son and I share a common bond as well with cars. When I am too old to get in and out of my Ferrari, I can't see that happening, then I will pass that toy on to him. He has other toys and so do I in my collection. What's the old saying, "We aint the richest people in the world but ain't we havin' fun?" | ||
| Martin (Miami348ts)
Intermediate Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 1473 Registered: 5-2001 |
Nika, I have still not received the tickets you promissed for the trip  Who else can hold your hand on this long journey? Perky will be so lonely...LOL | ||
| arthur chambers (Art355)
New member Username: Art355 Post Number: 113 Registered: 6-2001 |
Nika: Have a nice trip. Art | ||
| Magoo (Magoo)
New member Username: Magoo Post Number: 2 Registered: 2-2002 |
Nika, there's no doubt that you are Enzos' daughter. Have a nice safe trip | ||
| Nika (Racernika)
New member Username: Racernika Post Number: 310 Registered: 12-2001 |
Like I've said before - what's the point of having the bread if you don't have the "teeth" - I think I speak for all of us when I say we love our toys - but we respect them and we've worked hard for them. I know I'll only live once -so I might as well do it right with Ferraris  I'm off to Italy in a week - just to make sure I really am Enzo's long lost daughter Nika | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
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Thanks guys for your participation of comments on this post. It really was getting a little heavy but maybe sometime we need a reality check. Just a thought that came up. | ||
| Chris_N_Chicago (Chris_N_Chicago)
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"I will find the real killers. " OJ Simpson | ||
| Mark (Study)
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Martin- "Have you ever seen a Millionair robbing or even shooting somebody...?" Yes I have. Ever see a James Bond Movie? | ||
| arthur chambers (Art355)
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Ed: Does the name Wynona Ryder mean anything. I think she is rich, and she was caught shoplifting. Art | ||
| Edward Gault (Irfgt)
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I do see the rich shoplifting though. Duh! | ||
| Martin (Miami348ts)
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Let me make my point clear here: I value my wife and my friends and family a whole lot. I would not sell them for money. To give you an example of what I mean. Just yesterday we were skiing and we always sit in the same chair up the mountain. One run we got seperated and on the 5 minutes up all I could think of was how much I missed her sitting next to me. How happy we are, how lucky we are and how great it is to have a feeling of a loss being seperated for 5 minutes. ...but the other side of the coin is, we are on a 8 day vacation that has not been cheap, one that the average person could likely not afford. It is away from the daily life when your eyes open up and all of a sudden you see how much a person means to you and how blessed you are. All I am saying is that I do not see it as quality time with our spouce sitting around the kitchen table and sorting out bills, which ones to pay and which ones to wait for the final notice. It truely is the lack of money that is evil or creates evil. Have you ever seen a Millionair robbing or even shooting somebody on the street for the 20 bucks in his valet? Money is the root of all evil is a sentence that was created to keep the masses under control. Same if you listen to some preachings of various institutions (and I will not get into another discussion here..). Listen to Bob Marley> Get up stand up! | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
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Chris, I have it. In fact I have all of his greats. | ||
| Chris_N_Chicago (Chris_N_Chicago)
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To get that tape you'll most likely have to buy it. Hope you have enough money..... | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
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Yeah Timn, That reminds me of George Carlens tape on "STUFF". If you ever get a chance to see it take it you'll love it. | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
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If you have stuff you might as well enjoy it as long as you remeber how lucky you are appriciate what you have. | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
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Timn, Your comments make sense to me. I think moderation keeps us more in line and lets us see the other side. Excess brings out the "greed" as you said and makes us more selfish. I guess we should not beat ourselves up for enjoying the good things, such as our Ferrari, a home etc.. It's when we have an obsession about getting things,toys, and we never see any of the good things in life. | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
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The only reason people (including us) is because we were brought up in a materialistic society. People are also naturally greedy (for the most part) and are only concerned with self preservation. I know its kind of off topic, but if u think about it, people are so greedy. For example, the only reason people help other people is because it makes them feel better about themselves (i know its kind of depressing). I agree with Bret, there is nothing beter than friends and family. I just started to realize that they are all that matters. There is nothing better than having dinner with my family and then drinking some beers with my best friends in the woods in front of a warm fire just talking about any topic that comes up. I better stop taking my life, youth, friends and family for granted because its not going to last forever. | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
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A good example of this is when someone we love is taken sick or has a medical problem which could be terminal our thoughts leave anything related to the materialistic things that we have. After everything is ok and the diagnosis is not terminal we really know how much we love that person and that is what counts. After a while things get back to the everyday bore and we need to start collecting toys again. Why do we slip back into the ,"Gotta have things," mode? Then we go until there is another crises and once again we do another reality check. Why? | ||
| Edward Gault (Irfgt)
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Whoever said money can't buy happiness, dosen't know where to shop. | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
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I think Hutchison has hit it on the head. If we got rid of my sister think of all the things I could get... | ||
| DHutchison (Hutch308)
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The real winners are the people who INHERIT the dead person's toys. My brothers and I joke about what we'll do with the extra cash if one of us bites the dust. I tell them that I'll miss either of them dearly. But a 355 GTS will help get me through!! Make your happiness by doing whatever floats your boat. Enjoy every day and live life to its fullest. You don't get a second chance, and you can't take it with you. Martin is right, poverty does suck!! BTW - My brothers and I have a close relationship and I value that above all else. No sum of money or toy could ever the fill the void of either of them passing. It is just brotherly love. | ||
| Tyler (Bahiaau)
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Ken, I agree with you. That qoute never made sense to me either. I think just the opposte is true. LACK of money is the root of all evil. | ||
| Willis Huang (Willis360)
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Money give you more life choices. Like it was said before, it is only a tool. | ||
| Ken (Allyn)
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Rich people have as many problems as poor people; it's just that money isn't one of them. Money gives you more opportunity in life. You can choose how to live as opposed to having lifestyle choices limited by lack of money. The quote "The love of money is the root of all evil" never made sense to me. Can't ambitious people be good, and lazy people be evil? | ||
| Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
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I agree. while money can not buy happiness, it makes misery easier to live with. I too have been poor and now have enough money to live well. But, it is my wife and family that brings me the most joy and happiness. | ||
| martin J weiner,M.D. (Mw360)
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I think we confuse happiness with hedonistic pleasure.Happiness is the by-product of a "good" life.It cannot be obtained by seeking it out but rather it comes to us by helping others,getting involved in volunteer work-essentially giving back. | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
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As much as it doesn't buy happiness, having a little money does help as you guys have said. I think it's good to have enough that you can be comfortable, but other than that it often causes problems. Granted there are a lot of definitions for comfort so I guess it's a very individualistic definition here. I have noticed that the people that are obsessed with money are usually the ones that have the least fun. The girls that in college are worried about marrying a guy that can make a lot of money are usually the ones that have the most problems. The ones that just chill and have fun are probably the ones that are actually going to meet a guy that they really like. | ||
| Chris Richardson (Boozy)
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Life is not about money, it's about being happy. Some can be happy with or without money. I understand that many things that make me happy require money so I worked hard to get it. Now that I have it I work much less and find being happy much easier. You must arrange your life so that you spend the most time possible being happy. Easier said than done, but gathering up a little cash sure helps. | ||
| arthur chambers (Art355)
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Guys: All this complaining about working: I like my job. I'm so obnoxious that if I wanted to work with people, they wouldn't let me. However trial work suits me just fine: I get to take out my aggressions and they pay me money. Great job. The money is just your grade. Do a good enough job, and you get more money. It doesn't hurt that I feel strongly about what I do, and think it is the moral thing to do. I have no complaints about working: I started from a middle class family who provided me with a strong work ethic. For me the toys are the results of doing my job well, since I've never been a good investor, and because most of those toys are things that go fast, another way to get an adrenline rush. Of course comadrie is great, and having friends is another benefit of life, but the material things we achieve are a reflection of how good a job we have done with life, or how good a job we did in parental selection. Art | ||
| J. Grande (Jay)
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Unfortunately today, many must work 12 or more hours away from home. The bond between husbands and wives and children is weak at best. How can you build a strong relationship with someone if you only see them for 2 hours each night? And we wonder why 50% of marriages end in divorce? No there is nothing wrong with money, we all need it to survive. But the system is set up so that we need more and more of it for basic necessities, spending more and more time away from what truly makes us happy...our friends and family. Just my .02 | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
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Martin I wish I could stop working today and enjoy the fruits of my labor but I ain't in that catagory damn. soon I hope | ||
| Michael A. Niles (Man90tr)
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Martin, we are talking about different very things here. Many poor people still have friends and still enjoying getting together to eat whatever they have. You may have been unhappy being poor because of the things you wanted and did not have. What this conversation was about was a lot deeper -- it is about human connections and sincere exchange of ideas between rational beings -- those have nothing to do with the amount of money you have. Michael | ||
| Martin (Miami348ts)
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Gosh, that is all woozy talk! quote from Homer: "Money is the reason and solution for all your prolems"m ah no that was alcohol but it fits money just as good. You all have not found the right cars yet LOL Okay, that was just a joke! Now Money is not the problem but the person having or not having it. I have been bitterly poor at one point in life and the stress that this is placing on you is just overwhelming. Friends don't help there and neither does a good burger becasue you can not pay for it. Striving for money is not bad, nor is money evil as some people want to tell you (no not you Magoo). Money is a result of action taken. Money is a barometer for how well you have done a job. Money does not buy happiness, but true happiness can not be achived without. You still need to eat and drink and a vacation every once in a while is needed as well. If you need a job to pay for these basic needs you are dependent and can not achieve full happiness. Most of you have the financial backing that you could stop working today and live of the fuits you have planted over the years. Just this feeling will allow one to experience the world differently. It is not he toys but it is not the friends either. Money is the key. I love going out for a burger with true friends, I love to sit and have a beer or two or three or fooooouurr but at the end of the evening you will need money to pay for the tab. | ||
| Michael (Mtabije)
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Steve, that was just too funny!!! I like that! | ||
| Tyler (Bahiaau)
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Money is a tool, that is all. I have been poor and I have been rich. No question, having money makes certain aspects of life more enjoyable, but having quality friends and family is priceless. I agree with Bret that too many people are obessed with money these days, but if it weren't money, they'd be obsessed with something else. Money, is a magnifier. Give a person large amounts of money and you will see their core character traits emerge. People who are greedy and selfish become more so when they aquire wealth and people who are kind and generous become more so as well. | ||
| Steven Pham (Stevendp)
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MONEY It can buy a House But not a Home It can buy a Bed But not Sleep It can buy a Clock But not Time It can buy you a Book But not Knowledge It can buy you a Position But not Respect It can buy you Medicine But not Health It can buy you Blood But not Life It can buy you Sex But not Love So you see money isn`t everything. And it often causes pain and suffering. I tell you all this because I am your Friend, and as your Friend I want to take away your pain and suffering ... So send me all your money and I will suffer for you. I accept cash, money orders, personal checks, cashiers checks, bags of gold, bars of platinum, grade 5 plutonium, deeds, cars, airplanes, bank notes, real property, boats, jewelry, Ferraris and anything else that can be converted to quick cash. No children please. They will be returned. I`m only thinking of you! | ||
| wm hart (Whart)
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And, remember, happiness cannot buy you money. | ||
| John Ames (Ameshouse)
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A person who dies with the most toys is still, nonetheless, dead. | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
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Nice thought Michael. Magoo | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
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Bret, You got my vote. When you look around and see what really is important you see the people who love and support you. This is where the secret lies, moderation, not being greedy. I have noticed how your Dad helps you with your car. To him he wants to see you happy. It really is good to have some of the good life but take it as it comes. Why race to the end with the most toys? Just a thought. What say you other guys???? | ||
| Michael A. Niles (Man90tr)
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Bret does have a point. I have been fortunate to be given lots of toys (cars, airplanes etc.) and none of them are as much fun as going out with a fun friend and having beers and burgers. We are human (ie. rational beings) and intellectual exchange is a big part/key to our existence. Cars, money etc are fun but I'll take an exellent wine and intelligent conversation over those any day. it is nice though to have both. | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
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I personally think money and toys are nothing compared to people that you like. I also think that way too many people are obsessed with money nowadays. When did it become uncool to be an average, everyday good guy? | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
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What's it all about Alfie? Is this what life is? Do we pass the important things such as those people who really love us, for toys so that we can say we won at the end? Not to say we shouldn't strive for the good things of life, but the struggle to have it all and do anything to say I have had the most toys. Just a crazy thought. If it moves you think about it and comment. I often wonder about it. |