| Author | Message | ||
| James Dixon (Omnadren250)
Junior Member Username: Omnadren250 Post Number: 89 Registered: 7-2001 |
Hey Wayne, I dont know if you remember me, but about 3 or 4 years ago a friend and I had a rental Sebring convertable and we were shamelessly taking photos of you and Doug on the PCH. We were 2 brown guys from Canada. You and Doug both pulled over and talked to us for a few minutes. Very cool. For those of you who dont know. Wayne drives a BADASS 944 turbo in various racing events. Perhaps he has some interesting comments on the Porsche vs Ferrari debate on here. James | ||
| Willis Huang (Willis360)
Member Username: Willis360 Post Number: 504 Registered: 8-2001 |
Welcome aboard, Wayne! If the car is well sorted and runs well, you should keep driving it regularly. The worst thing you could do is leaving a Ferrari in a garage for too long. How about posting some pictures and let us know what you think about the 360 Modena? | ||
| Randy (Schatten)
Junior Member Username: Schatten Post Number: 199 Registered: 4-2001 |
hey Wayne! welcome to the board! you should bring your partner in crime over too - Doug. I got to meet him at the S2000 gathering at Laguna Seca last month. | ||
| Tino (Bboxer)
New member Username: Bboxer Post Number: 39 Registered: 8-2001 |
Wayne, there's much more we'd like to hear from YOU ! With your track experience and your GTS as a "daily" driver, you have to share your opinion of the 360 ! For you guys who don't know Wayne, he's a great addition to the 360 fold. Check his "checkered" history on www.nsxfiles.com. Wayne can drive most socal's race tracks blindfolded, hell he'll even drive the Virginia City Hillclimb eating a sandwich ! | ||
| wayne mello (Phoneguys)
New member Username: Phoneguys Post Number: 1 Registered: 2-2002 |
just got my 1999 360 with 15k on it...it's a 6 speed...anything i should know? | ||
| Joe Park (36001)
New member Username: 36001 Post Number: 8 Registered: 1-2002 |
Just got the car back and runs smooth. Engine lights were due to error in the computer, cd was due to same as well as F-1 error light ,, all had to do with the code ,,, Burning smell was new paint ,, It took Ferrari of Long Island only one day to fix the problem. Ferrari delivered the car both way, Very pleased ,, I will put some photos of my Spider and Dablo here this weekend ,, Thank you all for kind words ,, I hope now to enjoy this ,, | ||
| Jason Fraser (Jfraser)
Junior Member Username: Jfraser Post Number: 87 Registered: 3-2001 |
Joe, I hope you get to the bottom of your 360 woes, mine has been a very good car so far....Hmmm, Ferrari to a Bentley......talk about out of the frying pan into the fire!!! My father has an Arnage Red Label, don't get me wrong it is an exquisite vehicle, but it has hardly been a picture of reliability!!! Don't buy one with a sun roof, unless you like howling wind noises above 70 (Bentley are working on a redesign)....Hope you have asbestos finger tips (CD player too hot to touch after a while...Bentley are working with their supplier to overcome this known issue)....and make sure you drive the thing (prone to slow draws on the battery) it'll die after a few days. Meanwhile, I never understood why people buy Bentleys off the lot....99% of the fun of that car is visiting the factory, choosing the hides to cover the interior (there's a dead herd inside it) and tailoring it to your own unique specs..... Joe, both the cars you mention are very low volume manufacturers.....just because they are extremely expensive doesn't mean they're going to be reliable, actually quite the opposite.....I think achieving 6 sigma quality goals are far more important to Ford than Ferrari......If you want ultimate reliability buy a Mercedes. | ||
| Joe Park (36001)
New member Username: 36001 Post Number: 8 Registered: 1-2002 |
As what I paid for my toys is all very relative, for I buy or change cars every six months. As the owner of tokyojoe.com I have no other responsibilities than to enjoy life. Which can be very short. Yes I drive my cars but being in Manhattan, I don't have to commute. Car is now at the Long Island Ferrari and they are looking into it. Will advise so others can learn from it. I am sure I am not only one with same problem. Met other Spider owner, who got fed up and traded it in for a Bentley. Thank you for many posts, but some one must post his/her bad luck with Ferrari. Perhaps these gripes can improve the bloody car. | ||
| Dave (Maranelloman)
New member Username: Maranelloman Post Number: 8 Registered: 1-2002 |
Many thanks! | ||
| Jason Fraser (Jfraser)
New member Username: Jfraser Post Number: 86 Registered: 3-2001 |
Dave That's a very cool picture in your profile | ||
| Dave (Maranelloman)
New member Username: Maranelloman Post Number: 6 Registered: 1-2002 |
To Joe Park, Have you checked to make certain that your gas cap is screwed VERY tightly on? A loose gas cap will cause loss of fuel system vacuum, and will trigger a Check Engine light, which, I believe, will make the engine ECU lower the power capabilities of the engine. FWIW. | ||
| Tino (Bboxer)
New member Username: Bboxer Post Number: 33 Registered: 8-2001 |
Frank, some (I hope most) of us buy and drive cars for what they are and what they can do for us personally. I did have a 288 and apart from admiring sessions in my garage and beauty contests on the grass, it was a not a nice car to drive on the street or on the track. My 360 is far more satisfying and exciting to drive, the best so far. Like the Old Man said: the best Ferrari is the next one ! Tino S. | ||
| Willis Huang (Willis360)
Member Username: Willis360 Post Number: 478 Registered: 8-2001 |
For that money I'd get the F40. I guess that's the going rate for a 360 spider in the secondary market. | ||
| Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
New member Username: Parkerfe Post Number: 9 Registered: 9-2001 |
$275k for a 360 spider ? You could have got a 288GTO or F40 for that. Good grief ! The MSRP on that car is way less than $200k. In a few years it will be a $100k used car. A fool and his money and all that. | ||
| Willis Huang (Willis360)
Member Username: Willis360 Post Number: 476 Registered: 8-2001 |
I'm sorry to hear that, Joe.  These things need to be driven regularly on the open road. | ||
| Joe Park (36001) New member Username: 36001 Post Number: 6 Registered: 1-2002 |
Willis, I use the car only on weekends, for golf etc. Probably 100 - 120 miles,, Will call the dealer tomorrow and have them pick up the car ,, to fix,, If this happens again ,, this Ferrari is going to the dog market ,, not worth 275K I paid with cash,, No more Lambos no more Ferraris ,, this is last chance I am giving these Italians ,, | ||
| Willis Huang (Willis360)
Member Username: Willis360 Post Number: 474 Registered: 8-2001 |
I'm nearing 7,000 miles and no problems like you're having, Joe. The car's been thoroghly enjoyable so far. | ||
| Willis Huang (Willis360)
Junior Member Username: Willis360 Post Number: 473 Registered: 8-2001 |
Joe, what did your dealer say when you mentioned the problems you're having? Were they able to trace the source of the problems? Also, how are you driving the car? Do you drive it for short trips? How often to you drive the Ferrari? Does it stay in the garage for long periods? That burning smell might be your clutch. | ||
| Joe Park (36001) New member Username: 36001 Post Number: 5 Registered: 1-2002 |
PS car runs well so far. Any one else having same problem? | ||
| Joe Park (36001) New member Username: 36001 Post Number: 4 Registered: 1-2002 |
Series of bad luck. Had 2001 360 Modena for 3 mos, when I came back from a rwo week vacation, engine check light cameon and ground was screwed up. Car would not go over 30 MPH. Traded in for a 2001 spider, less than 4 weeks ago. Now I have engine check light on again constantly and F-1 transmission light would come on when I slow down from 3 to 1 in a hurry and will remain in for a while. I also smll a burning smell time to time. Got the car with 27 miles on it, it now has 700 miles. Also lost TP , my cd players will not kick in says No TP or CD found. Only radio works. Getting sick of this... | ||
| martin J weiner,M.D. (Mw360)
New member Username: Mw360 Post Number: 320 Registered: 5-2001 |
Mechanically have had zero problems in 8k mi.All the problems that came on delivery (Amerispec car) have been fixed and I love this machine to drive and just to look at. | ||
| 89MondialCab (Jmg)
New member Username: Jmg Post Number: 121 Registered: 9-2001 |
4 cars, 3+ years, nothing but success with Stongard. | ||
| Jason Fraser (Jfraser)
New member Username: Jfraser Post Number: 84 Registered: 3-2001 |
Frank, I'm sorry, but that just isn't my experience with the product...it didn't yellow, it was on for over 18 month's before the dealer damage, and the paint underneath was as good as the day the stoneguard went on....Folks, don't take my word for it...head over to 3M's website...the product is called scotchcal (stoneguard/armourfend are brandnames for it....there is a bunch of test data from various labs relating to the product.....Frank, I think you may be referring to the helicopter tape Ferrari ship the car with (which is as awfull as you state in the thread.) | ||
| Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
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I would stay away from the Stoneguard or any other of the stick-on films. Get a SpeedLingerie bra or just repaint the front spoiler every few years or so. I've yet to see a car with the film that does not yellow and/or peel the paint after a few years. A friend of mine who owns a Ferrari body shop said he loves it though, because he gets to repaint the cars from all the damage he has seen the film cause. He claims that not only does it trap heat between the film and the paint , but the film expands and contracts at a different rate than the car which causes chaffing and dulls the paint over time. | ||
| david schirmer (David)
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One note on the Stonegard. I have it on a silver car. It looks like it is just starting to yellow a bit. I had it put on in Jan. of 2000. Other than that it looks like it is doing its job. | ||
| Jason Fraser (Jfraser)
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Willis, very glad to hear you are getting the front challenge grills.....they really do look better than the tic-tac-toe front grills ....Stoneguard does not harm the paint...just before Xmas, my car was in for new tyres, and by accident one of the mechanics scraped a trolley jack across the front bumper....Firstly, the stoneguard is unbeliveably strong...it got totally chewed up by the jack but still protected the paint...the dealer said that taking the stoneguard off was a messy job, but the paintwork was fine....Obviously the dealer paid for a new application of Stoneguard..... The quality of a Stoneguard application is totally determined by the expertise of the installer.....A 360 nose is a very, very tough install (due to the curves and intakes, it's easy to overstretch, which results in a very unsatisfactory silvering effect. Points to watch out for....don't go right to the edge of the intakes, as the stoneguard will lift...Also right where the license tag goes is a lip....they have to cut the stoneguard here aswell otherwise it will also lift) I really would leave it up to the professionals (it's really important to find someone who has applied it to a 360 nose before) I have stoneguard on the bumper, side sills (looks much better than the Ferrari helicopter tape), wheel arches and headlights....I didn't go for the wing mirrors (didn't think it was needed)...and I didn't go for the hood (not stealthy enough.) I haven't had any stone chips on my front bumper...the stuff is first class Oh yes I also have the fuel guage issue....only fault I have had with the car was a sheared door hinge pin....Vanny, was that you who posted the fuel guage problem on the owners website? | ||
| Viken Bedrossian (Vikenb)
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No, there is no problem with filling gas in a 360. In fact, the '99 models are just fine. However, from 2000-on, the US government mandated a device that would prevent overfilling. Whatever device Ferrari used is not reliable and seems to interfere with the gauge's proper readout. No other automobile manufacturer I know of has this problem. | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
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True, I guess our cars are cousins of F1, now I just need a gas nozzle that outputs 5 gallons a second. | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
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Rob, thats intended, F1 cars fill in 5 seconds  | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
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You mean after 3 generations between the 328 and 360, they still haven't fixed the gas fill clicking off every 5 seconds. I dread filling up the gas, because it takes all day to feather it in. | ||
| Viken Bedrossian (Vikenb)
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On the gas gauge issue, I really don't think that Ferrari is doing anything to fix the problem on existing 2000-on cars. I heard that the redesigned the gauge with thicker bars so that it reads full. I wonder if we would need a whole new cluster to get this new gauge. My 2000 360 F1 has no problems and is going stronger by the day. | ||
| Willis Huang (Willis360)
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Stonegard is best left for the pros in terms of installation. Right now, I have Stonegard on the headlight lenses. They're pretty thick and will absorb a pretty good impact. They look a little funny but it's better than cracked lenses. The issues with Stonegard over time are yellowing and waxy buildup on edges. Dave, I just give it my best estimate at the gas pump. By the time it's reading nearly 1/4 tank, I put in $20 worth and come up pretty close to full tank. The pump usually click before I get to $20. I developed a feel of how much to gas to fill up. One caution. Do not put in more gas once the pump clicks. | ||
| Bill Michaels (Billm)
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Todd, I agree, definitely not a D-I-Y project, even though the mfg claims it is. I know I wouldn't attempt it. | ||
| Todd Chen (Tec)
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Dave, it's my understanding that the installer makes makes all the difference in the world when it comes to the product being virtually invisible once applied. I wouldn't recommend doing it yourself, and if possible, find an installer that's done 360's or similar cars many times. | ||
| Dave Mills (360dave)
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Ditto on the rock chips on the nose. After about 400 miles in my 360, I've got several, and am looking into Stongard. Nearest place to install is down in the Bay Area, and I'm in Sacramento CA, so I'm noodling on how to do that. Anyone installed this themselves? I'm actually rather bright, maybe I could do it? I had a heck of a time pumping gas into the car, and yes, it never showed "full." But the pump kept clicking off, and it took me forever. Any tricks? Pump it into an external tank and pour it in? Love the car, no other issues yet.... Dave | ||
| Bill Michaels (Billm)
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Same here with gas gauge, Ferrari hasn't figured that one out yet. Also been considering protection from stone chips. My dealer is trying to sell me on INVINCA-SHIELD, says they would apply on bumper, trunk lid, side mirrors and wheel wells for around $750.00. I've heard these treatments could harm the paint after time. My dealer says it wouldn't. I guess it couldn't be any worse than the chips. | ||
| Willis Huang (Willis360)
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Only one minor problem. The fuel gauge will not read full tank. The problem is well known but so far Ferrari doesn't have a solution for it yet. Anyone got this fixed? Otherwise, the car is running great. I'm ordering the Challenge front grills to replace the stock ones. I think this will take care of the road debris problem. Repaint the front bumper (too many stonechips now) and apply Stonegard to it. | ||
| Bill Michaels (Billm)
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Absolutely no problems! Drive it almost everyday. 6-speed. Love it! | ||
| Ernesto Sgroi (T88power)
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No problems whatsoever on the 1.5 years of ownership of my 2000 360 F1. Have seen a couple of broken 6-speeds at the dealer, though... | ||
| van mollenberg (Vanny)
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any problems with your car that you would like to share-been running well -comments on f1 vs. manual-problems with service?-modifications etc. |