| Author | Message | ||
| bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 318 Registered: 4-2002 |
art we all know about arthur andersen and his staff | ||
| arthur chambers (Art355)
Member Username: Art355 Post Number: 437 Registered: 6-2001 |
James: I had an undergraduate degree when I started law school. I had gotten out of HS at 16. What I didn't tell you is that it took me 7 years to get out of Law School. It all worked out for the best, I got to go into the Army and get some experience in accounting (Arthur Andersen Audit Staff in SF), before I became a lawyer. Art | ||
| Jack (Gilles27)
Member Username: Gilles27 Post Number: 377 Registered: 3-2002 |
Really, Tim. The "manuel" obviously refers to the models produced at the Mexican plant. How else will Ferrari increase producton numbers?! | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
Intermediate Member Username: Timn88 Post Number: 1030 Registered: 6-2001 |
I personally would never let my 20 year old son drive my Ferrari with out me if i had a son or a ferrari. Im 18 and i know that i am capable of doing really stupid, irresponsible things. The funny thing id if my dad owned a ferrari i would constantly ask him to drive it (and he would constantly turn me down, unless he was present in the car.) Im sure andrew is telling the truth. The only thing is he complete lack of spelling ability. I didnt know Ferrari made a F355 with the "manuel" transmission. dont take it personally andrew, im sure your a great nice kid. Honestly, i'll be the first to tell you im a sarcastic •••••••. | ||
| RM Valher (Rmv)
New member Username: Rmv Post Number: 49 Registered: 4-2002 |
For what it's worth, in Australia, one can enter the Melbourne University Law School straight from high school (usually at 18 years of age) if one obtains an 'ENTER' (a score from which one is ranked for entrance to tertiary institutions) of at least 99.0 (99.5 being the maximun score possible). Needless to say it's a similar story for entry into Medicine, Dentistry, except with those degrees, one must pass an aptitute test also. Entrance to the Law degree depends entirely on academic record. BTW, excuse my ignorance, but how are GPA's calculated?? Remember, I'm an Australian! | ||
| James Dixon (Omnadren250)
Junior Member Username: Omnadren250 Post Number: 213 Registered: 7-2001 |
Art, I can appreciate that. I have a friend who is 19 and just got accepted to med school. Very bright kid who works very, very hard. It seems you can get into law or med school in either the U.S or Canada without having a 4 year undergraduate degree. The really smart students get in after 1-2 years of university and a high LSAT/MCAT score (although they only take a handfull of students after such a short time). The rest of the students get a degree first and then apply and have a greater chance of getting in. However, in almost all of the universities in Canada, you must have a 4 year under-grad degree before you can apply to any sort of graduate school (to do any Masters degree etc...) How does this system work in the U.S?? To make it even more complicated, my father received an engineering degree from Cambridge University in England. He said that students graduating from Cambridge were able to pay roughly 10 dollars, and then they also received a Masters degree!!!! | ||
| arthur chambers (Art355)
Member Username: Art355 Post Number: 433 Registered: 6-2001 |
James: I was 19 when I started law school (UC Berkeley). There are some talented people on this site. Art | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 2832 Registered: 2-2001 |
Hey Bill, I don't think any of the guys here are blowhards or neccessarily feel that their opinion is the only way to go. I think a frenzy was born in this thread as it progressed. I personally feel that Andrew is in a fantasy land. This is the opinion I have gotten from his posts here and elsewhere on the F.C.. Now I can't prove that, it is just my impression so I just won't reply to his posts. We can't "Blackball" the guy so I guess if we dissagree with him or don't believe him we don't feed his fantasy. If he is for real, I think he has cried wolf too many times making it unbelievable. JMO...Regards, | ||
| Bill Steele (Glassman)
New member Username: Glassman Post Number: 25 Registered: 4-2002 |
Magoo, The problem is that we are all opinionated jackasses that think our stupid ideas are the only way to go. My wife refers to people like us as the Ferrari Blowhards, she may be right. | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 2829 Registered: 2-2001 |
Now that everyone has psycho analyzed Andrew, pro or con, he still exists here on the site and still claims what he claimed in the beginning. Will you ever know the truth and do we really care? Think about it. Regards, | ||
| Bill Sawyer (Wsawyer)
Junior Member Username: Wsawyer Post Number: 243 Registered: 2-2002 |
No, Ken, it didn't. We had three Cortina's, one plain Jane and two GT's. Also a Prefect, which was a 4-door Anglia. A few years later I bought my first car--a 1965 Lotus Elan Series 1 with a tweeked twin cam. 140 hp pushing 1400 lbs. Ooh baby!!! | ||
| Ken (Allyn)
Member Username: Allyn Post Number: 442 Registered: 10-2001 |
Bill: Did that Cortina have a Lotus Twin Cam engine?? Do you know what one is worth today? I do!! About the same as a pretty good 308! | ||
| Andrew (Mrrou)
Member Username: Mrrou Post Number: 354 Registered: 3-2002 |
a picture has been on my profile for awhile FYI  | ||
| Ryanab (Ryanab)
Junior Member Username: Ryanab Post Number: 76 Registered: 3-2002 |
I want some pictures of this 355. | ||
| Andrew (Mrrou)
Member Username: Mrrou Post Number: 352 Registered: 3-2002 |
I want everyone to ask themselves a question: If you were 20 years old and you could drive (and afford to pay for) a 355 would you turn it down? If you answer "no" to this question, buy a honda, because you are not a ferrari enthuist. To quote a member: "ANDREW MRROU IS A TROUBLEMAKER,CATALYST,AND LIVING IN A FANTASY.I BELIEVE THERE IS NO SUCH FERRARI HIS FATHERS LETS HIM DRIVE , NOR A COLLEGE STUDENT.HE LIVES IN THE BASEMENT OF MOMMYS/DADDYS HOUSE AND SLEEPS ALL DAY AND RIGGS EVERYONES PATIENCE AT NIGHT ON F-C. I RESPECT NOTHING HE SAYS NOR BELIEVE ANY OF HIS FANTASY'S OR STORIES" I take offence to this message. If someone here does not like me or tolerate anything that I post, they can simply not respond to my messages, simple as that. Also, I wonder why someone would want, (or even need) to picture me to be this lazy demon who feeds on the misery of others. I do not know anyone here personally, but I can say that I have respect for every member here, which im sure is more then what some people feel towards me. We all love ferrari's. Afterall that is why we post on this board. After this thread started, I have posted every message in a mature fashion, and I would like to ask that people do the same. Some members are so focused on my conduct that they do not consider their own; there inlies a problem some people here have to deal with. I respect the fact that members here had to work hard to achieve their ferrari, and frankly I think owning a ferrari is a very good goal to have. But just because you own a ferrari, it doesnt give you the right to criticize me for not owning one. Let me everyone a question: would your posts my any different towards me if I was 40 and owned a 355, or even a 308? I have a feeling they would be. Simply put: Because of my age and driving privilages, I have been labeled as a snob; A rich kid who drives "daddys" expensive car, and frankly I think that I am resented for it. Why I am resented is not my business, but I would like to ask that members of this board rethink their viewpoints towards me, and focus their stareotypes elsewhere. The enjoyment of this thread diminished a long time ago, and I know others feel the same way. This is a thread that we all should just leave "as-is" and move on. | ||
| James Dixon (Omnadren250)
Junior Member Username: Omnadren250 Post Number: 212 Registered: 7-2001 |
Andrew, I just want to know how you can be 20 years old and be in graduate school. Seriously. Did you finish high school at 16 and then do a 4 year degree?? or finish high school at 17 and then do a 4 year degree in 3 years (doing spring/summer classes, perhaps)? Did you only do a 3 year degree and then apply to grad school?? Most students are at least 22 before they even consider applying to grad schools in Canada. PS, I am not going to enter into an argument with you about showing respect, as I don't want to upset Richelson anymore than I already have. PPS, Bruce.... I am with you on this one. I think his Dads car is about as real as the Easter Bunny. James | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Junior Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 84 Registered: 10-2001 |
So it seems that what bothers most of you is that he is fortunate enough to have a Father who owns a Ferrari. So when you will have a child you will sell your Fcar ? Or will you tell him look but dont touch ? Well the day i will have my Ferrari i will be more than happy to share this passion with my own son if he's a car nut of course , and i will let him drive it . At first with me by his side and when he will haveenough experience ,on his own . | ||
| bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 306 Registered: 4-2002 |
bill -- actually you can take it up to 6800, before it red-lines...im fully insured for + value also i grew up with dads mercury zephyer and mom had a electra 225... regards, bruce | ||
| Bill Sawyer (Wsawyer)
Junior Member Username: Wsawyer Post Number: 238 Registered: 2-2002 |
Bruce: I won't dispute that. He's driven me crazy more than once, and I've done a bit of Andrew bashing myself. Yes, some of his posts are inane, but I'm sure I have my detractors as well. I tend to just ignore him. My dad had a Ford Cortina, if you can believe that. We were the only furrin car family I knew of in Dearborn, Michigan, but it fueled my appreciation for imported machinery. Of course, I don't need to borrow my dad's car because you're going to let me take the Testarossa up to 6,000 rpm, right? | ||
| David A. Spear (Detailman)
New member Username: Detailman Post Number: 1 Registered: 5-2002 |
Mark,you seem to have your head on straight. | ||
| bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 303 Registered: 4-2002 |
bill your wording is kinder than mine, but the meaning is the same..its just gets to me everytime there is a post from him,its gets everyone going..i am also 2x his age and wasnt fortunate to have a daddy who has a f-car(if its true)like him..i have a t.r and worked my tail off without any help and im sure you did too. regards, bruce | ||
| Bill Sawyer (Wsawyer)
Junior Member Username: Wsawyer Post Number: 237 Registered: 2-2002 |
Andrew reminds me of a kid I met years ago. I was invited to a 'private showing' of Ferrari's that a local broker had in his garage. Star of the show was one of the last F-1 cars from the Turbo era. There were about 6 or 7 of us there, including a K-Mart Vice President and his 13 year old son. All of the other attendees were adults. This kid was obviously spoiled rotten in the best Bloomfield Hills tradition; he was extremely opinionated, and yes, he got on my nerves. Nothing was good enough for this kid, Ferrari's were everything,and he loudly proclaimed that anything other than an F-car was beneath him. I constantly reminded myself that he would learn his lesson when he went out into the world on his own and had to make a living without his dad's help. Today, K-Mart is in trouble and his Dad is probably out of a job (unless he took one of those non-repayable million dollar loans upper management stole before bailing). Who knows, maybe he IS Andrew. He'd be about 20 by now. When I look back at that kid I realize that he wasn't that much different than I was at 13 and just learning about cars, or than my 9 yr. old son the Ferrari Freak is today. The realization that there is something beautiful and exciting that touches our soul can turn us into raving idiots. Heck, I'm over twice Andrew's age and I haven't fully recovered yet. Andrew is extremely fortunate to have the opportunity to experience a Ferrari at a young age. I also detect, between the lines, that he realizes that he is fortunate and that he will have to work very hard to live the life he aspires to. We have an opportunity to help guide him in his enthusiasm, or we can scare him away and snuff out the flame in him forever by being rude. | ||
| bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 302 Registered: 4-2002 |
why is it when andrew mrrou posts, there is always fuel and fire.IMHO, ANDREW MRROU IS A TROUBLEMAKER,CATALYST,AND LIVING IN A FANTASY.I BELIEVE THERE IS NO SUCH FERRARI HIS FATHERS LETS HIM DRIVE , NOR A COLLEGE STUDENT.HE LIVES IN THE BASEMENT OF MOMMYS/DADDYS HOUSE AND SLEEPS ALL DAY AND RIGGS EVERYONES PATIENCE AT NIGHT ON F-C. I RESPECT NOTHING HE SAYS NOR BELIEVE ANY OF HIS FANTASY'S OR STORIES..MAYBE SOMEONE OUT THERE ON F-CHAT WOULD AGREE..ANDREW..TAKE YOUR STORIES AND BECOME A WRITER, YOU WOULD BE GOOD FOR A FICTION PLAY OR STORY.. | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Junior Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 82 Registered: 10-2001 |
Craig i agree with you . thats what i think Fchat is about but some pple here dont think so and prefer to insult non owners even though they are Ferrari enthusiasts. | ||
| Craig Williams (Craigw)
New member Username: Craigw Post Number: 5 Registered: 4-2002 |
Chill out guys! I'm sure if your respective fathers had offered you a Ferrari to drive when you were younger you wouldn't have turned the opportunity down. Andrew is clearly enjoying himself and the car. I'm a relative newcomer here but surely the point is that like minded people get together and share information, experiences and their love of the marque whether they are owners or not? Is that not what Andrew is doing ? | ||
| Bill Sawyer (Wsawyer)
Junior Member Username: Wsawyer Post Number: 236 Registered: 2-2002 |
Typos are a fact of life on the Internet, but sometimes they can lead to disaster. Imagine the problems that would arise if President Bush received a communication about the upcoming war between Indiana and Pakistan. | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Junior Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 81 Registered: 10-2001 |
What is negligent about letting his son drive a ferrari ? Im pretty sure he's aware ( as i am ) that the car isnt his and that if he will have to pay for his own .As i said i have driven Ferraris in the past but im totally aware that they werent mine . My dreams are stil the same , right now its owning a 355 Spider before i turn 30 . Just because i drove Feraris that are better and pricier than this one doesnt mean that i wont be dreaming of a 355 anymore . I totally agree with Mark . some of you sound like jealous non owners . And i dont understand why ? As long as his father is aware that he takes the 355 where is the problem ? Maybe he should go live in south central until he can pay his own home ? Total nonsense | ||
| Mark Lambert (Mlambert890)
New member Username: Mlambert890 Post Number: 19 Registered: 4-2002 |
OK, well the person with the car loan can just check back in after a few years and then criticize the guy driving "daddy's car", right? I mean come on, that's a totally specious argument. The bank owns less of the car with every payment and car loans go by pretty quick. Plus, the money you are paying is still plenty green and you are still earning it. Loans are a basic fact of life for cars and houses. Nothing to be ashamed of having to take a loan for a huge purchase. Paying cash is overrated anyway. If I had $1M, I'd rather keep that liquid and let it work for me while making payments on a $750k house and $100k car than reduce my liquid assets to $150k. | ||
| Bill Steele (Glassman)
New member Username: Glassman Post Number: 22 Registered: 4-2002 |
Boozy, Thanks for your input. I do have problems with spelling and grammer because, as I mentioned before, I am computer ignorant. However that does not have any affect on my real work, as I am a laboring kind of guy. But that is not important. Andrew, You are exacly correct about really owning your car or other stuff. If it ain't paid for in cash, it ain't yours. ( Please check my grammer and spelling Boozey ) While my income isn't that great, I don't owe a stinking cent to anyone. | ||
| Mark Izzo (Tdf355)
New member Username: Tdf355 Post Number: 32 Registered: 3-2002 |
Let the kid enjoy the Ferrari. You guys sound like the same envious people who want to own F cars. And you guys do own them. Im confused. | ||
| Chris Richardson (Boozy)
Junior Member Username: Boozy Post Number: 163 Registered: 11-2001 |
I think some of you have spent very little time on the internet if you are not accustomed to seeing bad spelling and grammar. A perfect example of someone insulting someone else's spelling in his messages yet misspelling words and using inappropriate punctuation is Glassman. Examples: A snot faced brat driving his negligent dads Ferrari around. --Try "dad's." Also see your usage of the word "key's." Also take a look at your () usage, spacing, ending a question with a "." instead of a "?" Just an example of people living in glass houses throwing some poorly spelled stones. Nobody cares how someone spells on the internet. | ||
| Andrew (Mrrou)
Member Username: Mrrou Post Number: 351 Registered: 3-2002 |
Thankyou Bill for you criticism. I have taken more time to correct my spelling. Also my dream is to buy my own Ferrari. I do not plan to lease one or finance one, but to outright buy it. While it may take some time and patience, it will give me more satisfaction as an enthusiast. Also Chris made a very good point about people leasing or financing their Ferrari�s. If the bank owns your ferrari, your Ferrari is no more yours then the ferrari I drive is mine. People tend to forget these things when criticizing others. While people�s financial information is none of my business, I doubt that all people here own their ferrari. Because of this, some comments made on this board seem hypocritical to me. Andrew | ||
| Bill Steele (Glassman)
New member Username: Glassman Post Number: 21 Registered: 4-2002 |
Boozy, That is exactly what I picture. A snot faced brat driving his negligent dads Ferrari around. | ||
| Andrew (Mrrou)
Member Username: Mrrou Post Number: 350 Registered: 3-2002 |
Thankyou Andrew. It is good to find someone who shares my opinions on how ferrari's should be used. I expect respect when I post on this message board and for the most part I get it. While I understand peoples reactions to my posts and respect them, people like James Dixon take it to the next level by insulting things like my grammer. If I get criticism on this board, I expect it to be in a more mature fashion then that. | ||
| Chris Richardson (Boozy)
Junior Member Username: Boozy Post Number: 161 Registered: 11-2001 |
While some of you picture a snot nosed brat bragging about driving Daddy's Ferrari, all I can think about is some withered old codgers who have nothing better to do with their time than to furrow their brows and shake their rickety fists at some young whippersnapper who doesn't appreciate how hard life was growing up picking turnips after the big one. I guess Andrew didn't read the Law that states that you can't enjoy a Ferrari if you didn't pay for it. I think Andrew should stop driving the 355 or even looking at it or thinking about it so that Kenny and Marcus will be happy. Who needs to get the life? The person who is out there enjoying a Ferrari, however acquired, or the people who are spending their lives insulting that person yet who do not even own a Ferrari themselves? Am I better than everyone who is financing or leasing their Ferrari because I own mine? The bank owns theirs, did they really earn it? I find it sad to see someone abused for being young and fortunate. | ||
| Bill Steele (Glassman)
New member Username: Glassman Post Number: 20 Registered: 4-2002 |
Andrew, I have a couple of problems here. First is that your spelling really bad. I don't know if you can do spell check at this site or not. ( My computer skills are limited )But you really should try to improve those skills. Also, if your dad does let you drive his Ferrari, I think that is very negligent on his part. Driving a Ferrari is not something that should be taken for granted. If it is, where does it end. What are your dreams anyway? Most of mine evolved around owning these cars. Something I have only realized in the last ten years. ( In case you are wondering I do work my ass off, and I do make more than 100 thousand a year, and I do have to make it the hard way ) My step son who is 17, knows more about vintage Ferrari's than most owners do.He knows it is certain death to touch one of my cars! I think it is time for daddy to take the key's to the T Bird away. | ||
| Jack (Gilles27)
Member Username: Gilles27 Post Number: 348 Registered: 3-2002 |
That's good advice if you're pulled over, but don't say your brother/friend is a cop unless it's true. Most likely they'll ask about it, and if it's not true, they'll think you were trying to weasel out. It's very smart to announce your movements in the car. I know police appreciate when the driver understands that. | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Junior Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 80 Registered: 10-2001 |
Wow some of you take the ferrari owning experience much too seriously . I love Ferraris , they are my Number one goal in life . i dont own one yet , im still studying but im very fortunate to have a father who is an owner and he also let me drive them when i visit him . And well i respect them because i love them , because they are beautiful and yes because they arent mine . But i also respect my cars that i paid for . And i dont see what is disrespectful in going 96 mph in a 355 on a 65 mph ..ok its illegal but does the 355 care ? i think not . What is disrespectful to the marque is being so touchy about it . I guess thats why there's a lot of undriven Ferrari in the US because some owners dont understant what a ferrari is about . You dont need to worship the car to respect it . So just because you own a ferrari doesnt make you a better person and insutling someone actually makes you someone who doesnt deserve respect . | ||
| Michael Yip (Mightyslash)
Junior Member Username: Mightyslash Post Number: 61 Registered: 4-2002 |
Good point James. | ||
| James Dixon (Omnadren250)
Junior Member Username: Omnadren250 Post Number: 211 Registered: 7-2001 |
I would like to know how Andrew can be 21 years old, be in university graduate school and use the word "drived". How easy is it to get into graduate school in the States????? | ||
| bruno bandaras (Originalsinner)
New member Username: Originalsinner Post Number: 18 Registered: 5-2002 |
There isnt much fun in pulling over mini vans and volvo's now is there. | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
Intermediate Member Username: Timn88 Post Number: 1012 Registered: 6-2001 |
RM, good point. I dont own a Ferrari now, but i will in the future. Since im not an owner does this mean i cant post on this site? I dont think so, but i think some people might. Robert, that makes sense. Whenever my friend gets pulled over and the cop askes for his license he always says its in his pocket and he has to get it out. A cop could think you are reaching for a gun. It may sound wierd but does anyone remeber what happened to that immigrant living in NYC? He pulled out a wallett and got shot 43 (?) times by 4 cops. I heard that you are supposed to take the keys out and put them on the roof. When the cop asks you why you did that say your brother or cousin is a cop and he told you thats what you should do if you get pulled over. I think this works best if you actually have a relative in law enforcement. I was also told to ask if the officer can "extend any courtesis." And when he asks to who you mention the name of the relative. | ||
| Robert McNair (Rrm)
New member Username: Rrm Post Number: 22 Registered: 5-2002 |
I recieved some good advice which I would like to share regarding what to do when you are pulled over at night. Pull over immediately turn your interior light on turn your wheels fully to the shoulder pull out ign. key and put both hands on top of steering wheel. Cops don't know what situation they are walking up to when they pull you over. | ||
| RM Valher (Rmv)
New member Username: Rmv Post Number: 48 Registered: 4-2002 |
Richelson: What is your contention? Do you dislike threads like 'How do I thrash dad's Ferrari?' or do you simply dislike those of us here that do not own a Ferrari; are Ferrari enthusiasts; and will most probably own one in the future? I think you confuse geniune enthusiasts such as myself (and Marcus et al) and those 'lurkers' whom occasionally post about their Supras, and who do stir up trouble. There is a difference between the two, you know. Oh, and I did not realise that it was a prerequisite to own a Ferrari before joining this site. I thought being a genuine enthusiast was enough. Silly me. | ||
| Frederick Thomas (Fred)
Member Username: Fred Post Number: 500 Registered: 2-2001 |
The bigger the site gets the more people will argue about little things. More people, more views and opinions on different subjects. They are always fighting about something over on the S2000 board. Just because a thread is started doesn't mean you have to look at it. And who ever said you had to have purchased your own Ferrari or even own one for that matter to post on this board? | ||
| Horsefly (Arlie)
New member Username: Arlie Post Number: 6 Registered: 5-2002 |
People willfully speeding down the road in their bright red sports cars well in excess of the speed limit and getting pulled over by the cops. And then we all complain about high insurance rates because the insurance companies put our cars in a higher risk catagory. Nothing makes my day better than when I have to pay higher premiums based NOT on my driving record, but because my car has been placed in a higher risk category because of the lousy driving habits of others. And I don't even own a Ferrari,...yet. | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
Intermediate Member Username: Timn88 Post Number: 1010 Registered: 6-2001 |
Im trying to say that if they would leave because of someone saying their supra is nice, thats kind of a dumb reason to leave. While this is a Ferrari site, its also a car site. Most guys here love anything that goes fast, and some things that dont. Im not afraid to say i like supras, are you? Anyway, i dont want adive from someone who's to proud to post on a site that talks about anything than Ferraris. | ||
| Richelson (Richelson)
Member Username: Richelson Post Number: 728 Registered: 12-2001 |
This is my point. Why wouldn't you? If they are an Ferrari owner and they work on their own car they have lots of info that I would think would be nice to read. IMO it is nice to know something about your car and how to fix it. | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
Intermediate Member Username: Timn88 Post Number: 1008 Registered: 6-2001 |
If someone would leave because of that nonsense do i really want their advice? | ||
| Richelson (Richelson)
Member Username: Richelson Post Number: 723 Registered: 12-2001 |
Tim, if you ever purchase a Ferrari I think you will wish they were around for info. I also think you wouldn't want to hear about *^(& like this after you worked hard for one unless you have an endless income to pay someone else to fix your cars problems. | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
Intermediate Member Username: Timn88 Post Number: 1007 Registered: 6-2001 |
Who left? and if they left because of that crap thats pretty stupid. this kind of stuff never gets into the tech forum. | ||
| Richelson (Richelson)
Member Username: Richelson Post Number: 720 Registered: 12-2001 |
The sad part of all of this is that this site is losing some of its best contributors due to topics like this. Most of our most technical contributors have left because of many posts by non-Ferrari owners and others who brag about a Damn Toyota. IMO if this keeps this up we will be on the end of what was once a good thing. Personally I think this kind of ridiculous attitude shows no respect for the marque or being as fortunate as getting to enjoy the 355. I have been on this site for quite a while and many are new comers. This is fine and the site should grow but the site went from engine rebuilds to burnouts, hondas, etc. I can think of 4 major tech. contributors that have stopped coming on here for the most part due to some individuals inferiority complexes. Rant Off! | ||
| Dane Sander (Dane_sander)
New member Username: Dane_sander Post Number: 35 Registered: 4-2002 |
Just commenting on the beef with the adolescent. I was two months from graduating high school some 12 years ago. My dad, knowing how much it would mean to me, let me drive HIS 911 for those last couple of months. Yes, it was great but there was never any confusion with my friends or anyone who queried about the car; I made it clear that it was a loaner from the guy who worked hard for it. I enjoyed the car but did NOT boast about it as I did not want to come off as the little, snot-nose and silver-spooned kid. Plus, these cars are to be enjoyed and not used as some placement tool in society. I just loved cars more than my friends did and that's why they were happy for me. The lesson from my folks was (1)work hard, (2) save and (3) buy one of your own. I did and now am a very proud owner of 77 GTB; no, not the high dollar Ferrari of today but I love that car and am damn glad I followed their advice and stayed true to the dream... | ||
| Matt Sullivan (Matt456)
New member Username: Matt456 Post Number: 24 Registered: 5-2002 |
I drove my dad's minivan when I was Andrew's age but you can't blame him for getting lucky and having a father who owns a Ferrari. I'm just surprised that he can drive it as much as he wants. Andrew, your friends must love you! Matt | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
Intermediate Member Username: Timn88 Post Number: 1002 Registered: 6-2001 |
While i somewhat agree with kenny and marcus, i disagree too. You do seem to be irresponsible in your fathers car, what would he do if he knewe you did burnouts, etc. Andrew should not be starting threads about the fact that the only car he had was the F355, but it sort of helps explain why he had it out. He should have said that he was driving in the rain and wanted tire opions or something. You definately dont have to have paid for, or even owned something to respect it. I dont even own, nor does a family member own, an F355 but i have alot of respect for them and wish my dad owned one that he let me drive. I just think that if he paid for it he wouldnt be asking "the best way to do burnouts in a ferrari." If you were wealthy enough to buy one on ur own you should know how to do burnouts . I guess its better to ask than do something stupid and mess the car up though. Just for the record, nothing against you andrew, i just find your posts arrogant and "attention getting", while i never found Tim G's or anyone elses that way at all. Andrew, please keep posting, you clearly share the passion of ferrari, but try not to post things like this, word them differently. Obviously if you are doing 96 in a 65 the cop wont be too happy. The fastest over i've gone was i think 62 in a 45 and i was nice to the cop, i still got the ticket for speeding, but he let me go on the expired insurance card (i was still insured, the card was at my house, i didnt get a chance to put it in the car). | ||
| Ryanab (Ryanab)
Junior Member Username: Ryanab Post Number: 73 Registered: 3-2002 |
Andrew - I want to see pics of this car you have... RMK | ||
| Jack (Gilles27)
Member Username: Gilles27 Post Number: 341 Registered: 3-2002 |
I think any negative feelings I have are really just the jealousy of someone young having a father with a Ferrari, and being able to drive it no less! That was my dream when I was a kid, but my father just wasn't a "car" guy. He was also pretty stingy with his Oldsmobile. I can see why some people are put off with Andrew's postings, but having seen really bratty, spoiled and unappreciative kids while growing up, he seems to be doing OK. Andrew, your approach with the police begs for some lessons in tact, but that comes with age and experience ;). Basically, you've been fortunate to get a head start on your Ferrari dreams. Just remember that one day soon, you'll have to perpetuate that dream on your own dime! | ||
| Mark Eberhardt (Me_k)
New member Username: Me_k Post Number: 29 Registered: 5-2002 |
Hey Andrew, I think Chris called it pretty well. I usually go with "I'm so sorry, I only took my eyes off the speedometer for a second... I had no idea". I like the first time in the car part, I've used that successfully in the past. Personally, I like some of your posts. Asking for advise on handling a sports car in the rain, how to launch it safely, or handle the police seem like perfectly reasonable thing to ask. | ||
| Marcus Mayeux (Mmayeux73)
Junior Member Username: Mmayeux73 Post Number: 227 Registered: 4-2002 |
What I am saying is this...When you worked hard for something (for anything) you know that it came out of your own pocket and you went through all the sweat and tears to reach your goal. If someone just handed me a car or anything with such value I would not appreciate it as much as earning it, trust me there is a difference of someone giving and earning. When my father past away, I was left things of value and I do respect them, but when I earn my own way and buy it myself the level of respect and appreciation is much greater. I have nothing against Andrew, I just do not think he understands one bit about earning his way (in this aspect). Anyone can be left something, it is how you get it on your own which makes that item extra special. -IMO | ||
| Kenny Herman (Kennyh)
Member Username: Kennyh Post Number: 270 Registered: 8-2001 |
Cmparrf40, Don't get me wrong, I would take the F50 in a secnod (then sell it for an F40, a 355 and a Shelby Cobra ), but he constantly posts about dumb stuff that definetly isn't necessary. He likes to draw attention to the fact that his dad has a 355. I bet you don't know that my parents collect british cars- but I don't need to brag about it- I don't need the attention. | ||
| Michael Yip (Mightyslash)
Junior Member Username: Mightyslash Post Number: 60 Registered: 4-2002 |
Also, you confuse people by saying "My Ferrari" all the time, that aint cool. Like Kenny said, stop telling us "Daddy's little boy's stories". Nobody wants to hear a spoiled kid's story. | ||
| Michael Yip (Mightyslash)
Junior Member Username: Mightyslash Post Number: 59 Registered: 4-2002 |
Andrew, it seems to me that you're bragging about driving your Dad's Ferrari. You already made a few threads about this and that and what happened when you were in the Ferrari. It's not even your own car, why the hell are you bothering us with what you did in your Dad's Ferrari? | ||
| chris (Wrench_turner)
New member Username: Wrench_turner Post Number: 10 Registered: 5-2002 |
"when i was pulled over by a statie for doing 96mph in a 65 zone..the statie asked me if i always drived this fast and i pleaded the fifth." Dude - how do you expect a cop to act in that situation? Why not just get it over with and give him the finger? If you want any sympathy from the police when you get pulled over [not likely when you are (a) very young (b) driving a Ferrari and (c) obviously guilty] you should be polite, curteous, and apologetic. Something like, "I'm so sorry, it's my first time out in this car alone and I'm just not used to it, it'll never happen again Sir, I swear." At least then if the trooper is a Ferrari fan you MIGHT have a chance at a reduced ticket or maybe even being let go. Humility can go a long way. The number of times I've been pulled over in my life when I was guilty is at least three times the number of tickets I've gotten. | ||
| Cmparrf40 (Cmparrf40)
Member Username: Cmparrf40 Post Number: 270 Registered: 3-2002 |
Guys, what difference does it make if he paid for the car or not? If he loves a Ferrari enough to drive it and post stories about, that should be enough... Kenny, Marcus, can a person not respect something they did not pay for? So, if your father passed away and you inherited a F50, you can't have it or respect it because you did not pay for it? Andrew, keep on posting, making payments does not earn you respect. Kenny, Marcus I do not believe calling someone names is going to earn you the respect you feel you have earned by buying your Ferrari. Maybe you should set the example as an "adult" rather than commenting on this little "boy". Just my opinion.... | ||
| Ken (Allyn)
Member Username: Allyn Post Number: 438 Registered: 10-2001 |
96 in a 65 zone under the right conditions (deserted highway) is NOT that bad....we've all driven that at some point. I did that in my Honda driving home from the Indy 500 and that's like 150 for a Ferrari. He wasn't drinking...and 28 in a 35 zone is just a cop yanking his chain. Every time Andrew posts he gets insults and frankly I think it's uncalled for. | ||
| Kenny Herman (Kennyh)
Member Username: Kennyh Post Number: 269 Registered: 8-2001 |
Marcus, He doesn't respect it- thats the sad thing. | ||
| Marcus Mayeux (Mmayeux73)
Junior Member Username: Mmayeux73 Post Number: 226 Registered: 4-2002 |
...no sh*T! I agree with Kenny! How can you respect a car like that when you did not even earn it? | ||
| Kenny Herman (Kennyh)
Member Username: Kennyh Post Number: 267 Registered: 8-2001 |
Thats not really a funny story. I don't mean to start a flame, but you seem extremely irrespsonsible with your daddys car- and you are a spoiled little boy. "So i had to take out my Ferrari in the rain because there were no other cars"- get a life. | ||
| Andrew (Mrrou)
Member Username: Mrrou Post Number: 347 Registered: 3-2002 |
I was driving home last night after seeing the movie (unfaithful) which was a great movie..when i gunned it on the highway (since it was 1AM and completly deserted), when i was pulled over by a statie for doing 96mph in a 65 zone..the statie asked me if i always drived this fast and i pleaded the fifth. He told me that he was disgusted and if i was going any faster he would have me arrested for reckless endangerment and have the car towed...oops..the ticket was $285..the evening got even better when i was driving on a deserted road near my house, and while looking for CD in the glovebox, i was pulled over a second time for not speeding, but for driving the car at a whole 28mph in a 35mph zone..the officer asked to see my liscence and registration, and then asked me to breath into his hand (i didnt have anything to drink that day) and then apologized and explained how he was looking for drunks on the road and how drunk drivers sometimes drive below the limit when they know they're drunk...both offices made no comments on the car, although the statie was obviously disgusted with it.. anyways that was my night..anyone have similar experiences? |