| Author | Message | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 1686 Registered: 12-2000 |
A good article about these teams in this issue of Forza. They make a good point how the American Le Mans series and the 24 Hours of Le Mans are much more competitive than the FIA Sports Car series. When Ferrari starts winning ALMS, then all will be good again. | ||
| Willis Huang (Willis360)
Member Username: Willis360 Post Number: 735 Registered: 8-2001 |
Ferrari privateers have successes recently too. The 360 Modena was the N-GT champion last year. They're still very competitive this year. Porsche, Audi, BMW, and Corvette all have huge factory support behind them. It will be interesting to see how the Ferrari privateers fare at Le Mans this year. | ||
| Mark (Study)
Member Username: Study Post Number: 255 Registered: 10-2001 |
Jack- Ferrari is a very smart company. By keeping all its cars racing against each other in the Ferrari Chalenge.... you are always going to have a 1st, 2nd, 3rd Ferrari sweep. Never have to worry about a silly Vette or Audi beating a Ferrari. | ||
| bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 322 Registered: 4-2002 |
I SAW THIS THREAD AND HAD TO ADD MY 2 CENTS..HAVING OWNED CORVETTES FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS INCLUDING A CALLOWAY 1988 AND A 1994 ZR1, THERE IS NO COMPARISON TO MY 88 TR WHEN IT COMES TO CRUISING AT HIGH SPEEDS..I TURN OFF THE RADIO AND JUST LISTEN TO THOSE 12 CYLINDERS SING TO ME.THE ZO6 IS A BEAUTIFUL CAR IN LOOKS AND POWER,SO MAYBE I WILL ADD IT TO MY STABLE IF I CAN WITHOUT GETTING A DIVORCE.. | ||
| Jack (Gilles27)
Member Username: Gilles27 Post Number: 376 Registered: 3-2002 |
Mark, I thought the same thing. Outside of F1, Ferrari is curiously absent from every-day racing, which is their roots. | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
Intermediate Member Username: Timn88 Post Number: 1031 Registered: 6-2001 |
Kevin, i know its no comparison, but how does the Z06 compare to the two Ferraris? | ||
| Vince (Manatee)
New member Username: Manatee Post Number: 1 Registered: 6-2002 |
Racer, it just shows that both Ferrari and Z06 owners have a lot of class and respect for fine automobiles. | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 1673 Registered: 12-2000 |
That NSX is driven by Peter Cuningham, who had to have the rules changed that allow him to turbo charge it for it to be competitive in the Speed GT class. The usual favorite in the class is the Audi's, but the Z06's have been doing really well. SCCA T-1 racing is in a more stock form than those Speed GT cars. | ||
| Racer 001 (Mr_0011)
New member Username: Mr_0011 Post Number: 49 Registered: 3-2002 |
Wow. I had no idea you Ferrari freaks liked Vettes. That's pretty cool.  Usually Euro car fans have their heads up their ass and hate anything made in America, let alone Japan... Glad to see it's different here. | ||
| Jim E (Jimpo1)
Member Username: Jimpo1 Post Number: 481 Registered: 7-2001 |
I drove my first Z06 last week, and all I can say is HOLY SH1T!. That thing was FAST. Quite possibly the fastest car I've ever driven. I don't want one, but I now have respect for them. | ||
| Mark (Study)
Member Username: Study Post Number: 254 Registered: 10-2001 |
On Vaction in Florida last weekend I caught some Speed Vision. The Z06 flew past the 911's and then caught and passed the lead NSX (when it got slammed by a rookie back-marker..that cut him off). The NSX was all over the Z06 for the last 3 laps but couldn't get the pass ( extra 200lbs the NSX was carring didn't help. Penality for winning a few races already). I wish Ferrari would show its face in these races. Pretty cool! ZO6 was impressive. | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 1670 Registered: 12-2000 |
In a racing situation, the Z06 dominates the 355 C in SCCA Club Racing. The Z06 over the past year has also started beating up on the Viper. Roval type courses with long straights the Viper HP usually prevails, but true road courses the Z06 is just plain dominant right now in T-1. We have a user on here somewhere that was racing a 355 C in T-1 and switched to the Z06 this year. Are you around? Is it Art Chambers, or do you just track your 355 C? | ||
| Racer 001 (Mr_0011)
New member Username: Mr_0011 Post Number: 47 Registered: 3-2002 |
Kevin, congrats. You'll have some awesome memories I'm sure. Visit zo6vette.com too. | ||
| Kevin Marcus (Rumordude)
New member Username: Rumordude Post Number: 27 Registered: 9-2001 |
Well, for me, it all comes down to character, balance, and overall driving fun. For cars i have driven, I think I would rate the f50 at the top, followed by the f355c and then the z06. But, of those, you could drive the '06 every day... Mark: i have heard the '01s burned oil like mad, so that'd be in line. And *all* the corvette people wave when you drive... I'll also through out there I am a bit disappointed at the hp/liter from the '06. 5.7l is huge. considering the 355c puts out 375 horses from 3.5l, you get into the viper addage: "anyone can burn a lot of gas and get a lot of power". | ||
| Floyd Lawson (Floyd8686)
New member Username: Floyd8686 Post Number: 15 Registered: 5-2002 |
Harlan, I still have under 400 miles on it, so I'm still in break-in mode. I will start a new thread for you | ||
| Harlan Mott (Hmott3)
Junior Member Username: Hmott3 Post Number: 131 Registered: 12-2001 |
Floyd, Can you please post some driving impressions of the 575M in a new tread (as to not hijack this one). I would love to hear about it, and I'm sure others here would as well. The longer the better! Thanks | ||
| Floyd Lawson (Floyd8686)
New member Username: Floyd8686 Post Number: 14 Registered: 5-2002 |
I currently have both a 575M and a 2001 Z06. Can not compare the two cars. The Vette has a lot of low end torque, so it is great off the line. The Maranello has an enormous amount of power. SOTP the 575M Maranello will move away from my Vette once the two are moving. Even though it has launch control, I would never consider a standing start in the 575M, much like I never did in any of my previous Ferraris. By no means do I have the skill of a race car driver, so the F1 transmission in the Ferrari is a big benefit to me in making repetitive, flawless gearshifts at speed. With a gear lever, I'm always careful (read slower) to make sure I don't miss a shift. The Z06 is a terrific car. Consider Corvettes and Ferraris like different flavors of ice cream. Both taste great, it just depends upon which mood you're in. For a lot more info on the Z06, check out www.z06vette.com | ||
| Roger Arlen (Rogera)
New member Username: Rogera Post Number: 2 Registered: 5-2002 |
Mark, the early 2001 Z06s were diagnosed with a significant oil consumption problem that was later cured with a modification to the rings. As for a Challenge car vs. the Z06 on the track, wouldn't you have to compare the Challenge car to the C5-R race car? I believe these cars regularly compete in the ALMS. | ||
| Frederick Thomas (Fred)
Member Username: Fred Post Number: 504 Registered: 2-2001 |
Greg, How about shifting to 3rd and 4th at 7700rpms! | ||
| Mark Izzo (Tdf355)
New member Username: Tdf355 Post Number: 39 Registered: 3-2002 |
I had a 2001 Z06. It burnt 10 quarts of oil in the first 1000 miles I owned it. A very fun car to beat the livin hell out of. I guess it couldnt handle my daily redline thrashing. Fun car to thrash on but a much different kind of power. Good for the stoplight wars of America but there is nothing like hearing and feeling my 355 at full song. I treat my 355 with respect. | ||
| Kenny Herman (Kennyh)
Member Username: Kennyh Post Number: 276 Registered: 8-2001 |
Greg, I don't think Kevin is looking for a car becuase of its rarity.. He has quite a stable. Kevin, Sounds like you are looking for a fast track car to through around. From what I understand, its a helluva lot of fun to drive, and relatively cheap to maintain. | ||
| Greg Owens (Owens84qv)
Member Username: Owens84qv Post Number: 398 Registered: 10-2001 |
For me, it's the rarity of the Ferrari that moves me. On the road to work every morning, you'll see 8-10 of the new style corvettes...as my dad says, they are belly button cars,..."it seems like everyone has one...". Get the F-car...redline @ 6500?...how about shifting into 3rd and 4th at 6500! | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 1668 Registered: 12-2000 |
On a track, the Z06 edges the 355, 360, and Viper. However, I think a Challenge would slap it back to Detriot. | ||
| Willis Huang (Willis360)
Member Username: Willis360 Post Number: 732 Registered: 8-2001 |
Driving a Z06, Kevin? Isn't it a bit of a let down for you? | ||
| F-J'87EuroTR (Ferrarijoe)
Junior Member Username: Ferrarijoe Post Number: 190 Registered: 5-2001 |
Kevin, One thing for sure separates the Ferrari from a Corvette of any year model and that is the options available for after market upgrades. I just recently got a catalog from Corvette Central. I could not believe the add-ons of power that are available. It is amazing! But to compare the two cars is not fair. They are from two different planets and to have either a Ferrari or a Corvette (some have both) is not so bad I think. I have told myself if I did not have a TR, I would definitely have a C5 or ZO6. You cannot beat the bang for the buck with one of those. Joe | ||
| arthur chambers (Art355)
Member Username: Art355 Post Number: 435 Registered: 6-2001 |
Kevin: 3k is too small a power band? A TZ250 Yamaha has about 1500 to 2000 power band width, with a 5 speed (new ones are 6 speed. If you are leaned over when they come on the power, you'll either slide or high-side. No room for error there. They have no torque, just gobs of power when they come on the pipe. My 355 has good power from about 4k to 8k, a much different proposition. | ||
| Arnaldo Torres (Caribe)
Member Username: Caribe Post Number: 345 Registered: 2-2001 |
There is an article on the latest Road & Track magazine in which they compare several high performance cars among which are the Z06, and 360. I haven't read the article yet, but I read conclusions, and the Modena came out on top. Anyway, I thought you might want read it too. | ||
| Roger Arlen (Rogera)
New member Username: Rogera Post Number: 1 Registered: 5-2002 |
I own a 360 Modena F1 and a 2002 Z06. The stock Z06 (5.7 litre) has 405 HP, 400 LB/FT, and pulls 1G on the skid pad on stock tires. I use the Z06 on road course race-tracks and the car is phenomenal. The combination of grip, brute power, strong brakes and very sophisticated active handling and traction control systems make the car an absolute thrill on the track. Add in a booming and angry exhaust note and it�s as close as you get to a real race car in something you drive off the showroom floor. For me the car is faster around the track than the 360 Modena, in part because it�s price makes me more comfortable pushing it and in part because, well, it�s just plain faster than the Modena. The massive torque of the Z06 makes it really easy to recover from a slightly missed apex or early/late turn in because the car pulls so strongly from very low rev points. I wouldn�t call either car easy to drive for the less advanced driver, with the Modena a bit twitchy as speeds rise, and the Z06 always capable of getting you in BIG trouble if you�re too liberal with power application at the exit. For me, the Z06 is only a car to take to the track. While the Vette�s have come a long way, the build quality and the quality of the materials in the car aren�t even in the ballpark of the Ferrari. The Z06 has a few nice styling elements, but I don�t really care for the aesthetics of the car, especially the big fat billboard like rear end. The car is very juvenile when compared to the gorgeous elegance of the 360 Modena. For me the 360 is well worth the big price premium over the Z06. It combines style, performance sound and exclusivity in a way that the Vette can�t touch. I feel very fortunate to be able to enjoy both. I hope this helps. | ||
| Steve (Steve)
Junior Member Username: Steve Post Number: 160 Registered: 2-2001 |
Kevin get a horse (Cavallino) , you'll like it. | ||
| Kevin Marcus (Rumordude)
New member Username: Rumordude Post Number: 26 Registered: 9-2001 |
If any of your have followed my posts through time, you-all know that i really dig ferrari's. However, today I received a z06 which I got to play with for a bit, and let me tell you: I am impressed. It's fast, it's quick, and the brakes are nice. Plus, I think with that body-side-molding, they kind of have a hint o' ferraristi design, but I know I will suffer for that comment. Anyway, I'm just saying that I am throughly impressed. My biggest grief is the same issue i have with porsches: the power band is too short. It seems to kick in good around 3500 rpm, with redline at 6500, for a total of 3k rpm's. Most ferrari's seem to kick in around 4k rpms and go up to 8k or 8.5k for a much longer time with the pedal down. does anyone else own a z06 and ferrari? what do you think? |