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BretM (Bretm)
Intermediate Member
Username: Bretm
Post Number: 1640
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, February 17, 2002 - 9:39 am: | |
Yesterday I ran over to WWoC to get some prices and two customer's had 550s there in the parking lot, a titanium one and a black one. I'll admit that they're quiet (need a Tubi or something) but still they sound and look beautiful. If I was to keep the 308 I would definitely get a 550 if I could. If I had to sell the 308 I would get the 360 (6spd). |
Jeffrey Robbins (Teachdna)
New member
Username: Teachdna
Post Number: 24
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, February 16, 2002 - 5:49 pm: | |
I had EXACTLY the same choice to make. Got extensive seat time in both and then went for the Maranello (kept my 996tt). The Maranello is truly the most elegant, most engaging car I've ever driven. It has tremendous potential to be anything you want. Want a quiet, long distance cruise? Then park it in 6th and cruise down the highway-you won't even hear the engine at 75-85 mph. Want a racer? Then keep it in 3rd and watch as you climb toward triple digits with the engine howling like only a 12 cylinder Ferrari can howl! It's the only car I've owned (including a 993tt) where you can chirp your wheels in third.
I loved the 360 (although I was not all that impressed with the F1) but I don't regret purchasing the Maranello for an instant. For me, it's the perfect car.
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Tenney (Tenney)
Junior Member
Username: Tenney
Post Number: 79
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, February 16, 2002 - 5:15 pm: | |
My take: The 360 is smaller, lighter, sounds better, and is overall a more visceral drive. The 550 has noticably more size, weight (though doesn't feel as large/heavy as it is, IM0) and bottom end (er, torque), needs Tubi, is a very forgiving handler, and is a more subtle and elegant design. Some money will probably be lost on either car. I'd pick the venue of most frequent and/or preferred use and then let a drive in both be the deciding factor. |
wm hart (Whart)
Junior Member
Username: Whart
Post Number: 54
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, February 16, 2002 - 11:56 am: | |
If the question is 360 coupe or 550 maranello for 160k, i'd say the correct answer depends on the kind of drive you want. The 550 is a big gt car, and is not easily tossable: you always know you are in a somewhat large, heavy car. The maranello prices have gone down, i'd say 25-30k in the past year or so, which makes it possible for you to consider both of these cars at the same price. The 550 is more car, but the tradeoff is weight and size. I don't know if 550 prices will plummet as an immediate result of the 575; look what happened to 355 prices, when the 360 first began to trickle in; the 355 went up! Also, keep in mind that even if you drive both, the immediate first impressions will not be entirely telling, since you need to know how to drive both cars. The 360 has nowhere near the torque of the 12, but you have to be pretty aggressive to drive a 550 properly, otherwise, it has enough pull to let you drive it easily, without really revealing its quickness. (it is particularly quick when you already have some revs, say at speeds slightly over the speed limit in Montana, and then you give it a real push. you will be surprised at how fast it takes off from high speed to real high speed). obviously, ownership, service history, condition, etc. are assumed to be of the first order for both cars. In terms of resale value, they are both probably in the same neighborhood now (360 coupe prices should continue downward, and the 550 is now getting some age as a design), so let's assume that is not a factor; it would not affect my decision about which car to buy, given the other, more profound differences between these cars. |
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Member
Username: Parkerfe
Post Number: 565
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, February 16, 2002 - 10:26 am: | |
A 360 has more torque than a 550 ? Not according to the cars' specifications nor acording to common sense that a larger displacement engine almost always have more torque than a smaller displacement one. |
martin J weiner,M.D. (Mw360)
Member
Username: Mw360
Post Number: 329
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, February 15, 2002 - 7:51 pm: | |
Have a 360 euro and switched driving with my friend who has a 550.The 360 is more fun,has a lighter clutch,and more low end torque.The v 12 of the 550 is a delight.Looks are obviously subjective.Resale value? Who knows-too many unknowns to prognosticate. |
Frederick Klorczyk (Fjk)
New member
Username: Fjk
Post Number: 17
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Friday, February 15, 2002 - 3:12 pm: | |
It is definitely not an investment but we'd all like to not take a financial bath.
Supposedly coupe production was nearly eliminated a year ago to allow Spider production to increase. Now a decrease. I suspect 9/11 and the world economy in general??? Who knows? Alot of Spiders in the secondary market and Euro coupes. I have a secondary market friend who has moved 18 Spiders at $259k - the real killing being made by the original owner not him.
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Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Member
Username: Parkerfe
Post Number: 561
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Friday, February 15, 2002 - 2:40 pm: | |
It's a no brainer. Get the 550. It's more car for the money. And, its a front engine V12 like Enzo would have made, |
Tino (Bboxer)
New member
Username: Bboxer
Post Number: 35
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Friday, February 15, 2002 - 1:51 pm: | |
I have heard from a dealership GM that the US might be getting about 200 fewer cars this year (because of the slowing economy!) The recent Automotive News figure show 90 cars (sold) last month compared to 98 in January 01. BTW, no 360 coupes at least at one dealership since the beginnig of the year, only spyders (about 3-4 cars per month). |
Willis Huang (Willis360)
Member
Username: Willis360
Post Number: 496
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Friday, February 15, 2002 - 1:03 pm: | |
The last thing I'd worry about is the future value of my Ferrari. It's a car not an investment. I thought the whole point is to drive these beautiful cars.
Wow, production was cut by 20%? Any reasons given? |
Frederick Klorczyk (Fjk)
New member
Username: Fjk
Post Number: 16
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Friday, February 15, 2002 - 12:51 pm: | |
The price is $160K, 5k miles on each.
FYI - I am on "The List" for a Spider. Was just told by my dealer that production was cut 20% for 2002 and getting "my" car in the spring of 2003 ain't gonna happen.
Like most of us, I worry about future value and the fact that the stickers on the cars were quite different when new and now they are the same confuses me a bit - of course, this economy confuses me too. Aren't there any Enron Ferraris being dumped down there?
The car in mind will be a replacement for a 996tt. |
Tino (Bboxer)
New member
Username: Bboxer
Post Number: 34
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Friday, February 15, 2002 - 12:37 pm: | |
I take issue with the only question Ferderick asks and that is about resale value.(Obviously right now, the 360 comes up first) but the real choice is not so easy. I drove 550's but own a 360F1. I don't regret my choice. For me, it's the car and what it does to me. IMO, for sheer "Driving" (and I'm not saying "driving pleasure" as in cruising or long distance trips), the 360F1 is much more alive, challenging and rewarding. On the road, it is the nearest I have ever come to driving a "race car". Everyone tells me that at 55, the 550 is The car for me. I disagree ....but I'm anxious to drive the 575M. |
Chris Richardson (Boozy)
New member
Username: Boozy
Post Number: 36
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Friday, February 15, 2002 - 12:16 pm: | |
I've been thinking about getting on the list for a new 360 Spider. The list is so long though that I would probably get the next model, which might be a good thing to be early on the list for a newly introduced model. What do you guys think? How long do you think they'll continue with the current model? The 348 lasted for what, 7 years? The 355 for 5? |
Willis Huang (Willis360)
Member
Username: Willis360
Post Number: 495
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Friday, February 15, 2002 - 12:13 pm: | |
The 575 introduction puts me in a bind for future upgrade. Do I trade in my 360 for a 575 or hold out for a completely new V12 car after the 575? Or forget the V12 and just get the 360 successor? |
Ernesto Sgroi (T88power)
Junior Member
Username: T88power
Post Number: 193
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Friday, February 15, 2002 - 11:33 am: | |
Even though I have a 360 and love it death, if I was in the market for a used Ferrari and I had an option of a 550 or a 360 for $140,000, I would take the 550. The car is simply amazing and definitely worth $$$ more than a 360...
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Willis Huang (Willis360)
Member
Username: Willis360
Post Number: 493
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Friday, February 15, 2002 - 11:25 am: | |
It depend on your taste. Both offer the same utility. F1 system in the 360 is great fun with the high revving V8. 550 is a bit anonymous but what more can you say about a classic V12 with gobs of power and torque. 550 is easier to park because of better rear visibility.
Difficult to say about resale on the 550 with the recent introduction of the 575MM.
Just buy the one that turns you on. |
Harlan Mott (Hmott3)
New member
Username: Hmott3
Post Number: 19
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Friday, February 15, 2002 - 11:15 am: | |
I think the 550 is the best looking Ferrari probably ever. I also want to say the 12's hold there value better than 8's but I'm not so sure actually. I'm not even exactly sure how to calculate something like that, I think I'll start a new topic and see if anyone else knows. Anyway I would go for the 550. |
TomD (Tifosi)
Member
Username: Tifosi
Post Number: 303
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Friday, February 15, 2002 - 11:12 am: | |
I think we need to know the price. its a big diff between getting a 360 or a 550 for 100k or a 360 or a 550 for 250k |
Frederick Klorczyk (Fjk)
New member
Username: Fjk
Post Number: 15
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Friday, February 15, 2002 - 10:59 am: | |
same price, same miles, same condition, FNA warranty, USA cars, different but both great to drive. Which would you buy? Any thoughts on resale value? |
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