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Mark (Study)
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Username: Study

Post Number: 170
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Sunday, February 17, 2002 - 9:47 pm:   

I live in Detroit and I've seen a few of the newest Hydrogen powered test cars that are zipping around town. You see some weird test cars on the streets when you live in this town.

They don't sound good, but they don't sound like Electric cars either.

I just think if Ferrari is on the cutting edge.. well then this would interest them. Unfortunatly it looks like Honda and MB are the dominate players right now in engineering technolgy.

You have to be a pretty big company to waste years on something that is still a long way from having a payback.

Just wanted to mention that electric cars are not what we should worry about replacing current engines (or at least high preformance engines).

magoo (Magoo)
Intermediate Member
Username: Magoo

Post Number: 1948
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Sunday, February 17, 2002 - 9:28 pm:   

Mark, If you read that thread again you will see that it talks of a high powered battery version that makes no sound. Hydrogen powered vehicles are farther down the road than electric cars in being used for commuter transportation. Maybe one day.
David Bob� Jr. (Supraoz)
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Username: Supraoz

Post Number: 38
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Sunday, February 17, 2002 - 9:22 pm:   

Let Gore take office. Hybrid USA!
Mark (Study)
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Username: Study

Post Number: 168
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Sunday, February 17, 2002 - 9:12 pm:   

If you live in Detroit and want to be somebody, you're most likely working on fuel cells and hydrogen engines. The American Automotive industry faces extinction if it does not secede, innovate, and lead into this next phase of the automobile life cycle.

Japan's Honda & Toyota, as well as Germany's MB already have some nice cars and vans kicking some ass in the Hydrogen engine frontier,� and who can argue with a waste product of pure H2O and plenty of HP. We will continue to see electric cars and combination gas/electric in the short-run as they are closer to production feasibility immediately. Hydrogen fuel cells still need to bring cost down�. and work on the problem of building Hydrogen refueling infrastructure.

You may frown on an electric powered Ferrari, but as long as NASA sees fit to power its rockets with Hydrogen fuels�. I don't think a Hydrogen engine Ferrari would suffer the wimp stereotype.

Makes current world events interesting also. Just as Detroit is threatened�. The OPEC and Arab states stand to lose their world importance in the next generation of automobiles. Whether we are taking 30 or 60 years�. Who knows, but a test is coming for the Arab Countries and I hope they get Religion out of their school systems and train there youth for the future�. Or the Muslim society will fall even further behind.

History is fun� remember that steam engines had a pretty good run once� and every thing in this country was built around the rail-roads and that technology. But the one thing that is certain in this Universe is change. What's interesting to me is how industrial changes effect every aspect of our life's.

As for Magoo's original thought that started this thread... No sound? That made me laugh. Ever try sleeping in Cocoa Beach when a Shuttle launches at 4:00am ? The sound knocks you out of bed. LOL Bring on my Hydrogen Ferrari :-)
Tim N (Timn88)
Member
Username: Timn88

Post Number: 400
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Sunday, February 17, 2002 - 10:23 am:   

Get an old muscle car and rebuild the whole engine, you could be pushing 600hp and getting 8mpg.
BretM (Bretm)
Intermediate Member
Username: Bretm

Post Number: 1642
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Sunday, February 17, 2002 - 9:46 am:   

I feel morally obligated to use as much gasoline as possible before I die. All I need now is something big, real big, that uses a lot of gasoline. To my dismay I got almost 15mpg on the last tank of gas in the jeep. With that weber I figured I could at least get that number down to 10 on winter gas. Damn.
magoo (Magoo)
Intermediate Member
Username: Magoo

Post Number: 1945
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Saturday, February 16, 2002 - 11:32 pm:   

Can you guys imagine charging up your Ferrari before you took it on a 50 mile trip on Sunday?
Tim N (Timn88)
Member
Username: Timn88

Post Number: 396
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Saturday, February 16, 2002 - 11:12 pm:   

Enzo would be rolling over in his grave if that ever happened.
magoo (Magoo)
Intermediate Member
Username: Magoo

Post Number: 1942
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Saturday, February 16, 2002 - 10:43 pm:   

I don't know how much gas a soybean can produce but I can't imagine soybeans powering a Ferrari.
Tim N (Timn88)
Member
Username: Timn88

Post Number: 395
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Saturday, February 16, 2002 - 5:43 pm:   

Yeah 75mpg when they are on a transport truck maybe
Tim N (Timn88)
Member
Username: Timn88

Post Number: 394
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Saturday, February 16, 2002 - 5:42 pm:   

Hopefully till after my time
Michael (Mtabije)
Junior Member
Username: Mtabije

Post Number: 231
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Friday, February 15, 2002 - 11:52 pm:   

Think Soybeans.
BretM (Bretm)
Intermediate Member
Username: Bretm

Post Number: 1633
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Friday, February 15, 2002 - 10:54 pm:   

This is another thing with the whole SUV trend. It's just inefficient. Eventually I think cars will become much smaller and lighter. It just doesn't make sense to drive a 6000lbs car for one person.
BretM (Bretm)
Intermediate Member
Username: Bretm

Post Number: 1632
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Friday, February 15, 2002 - 10:53 pm:   

Gasoline engines are getting pretty damn good, and they're not showing any signs of stopping the improvements. I honestly can't see in my lifetime there not be a dependency on gasoline, I just can't. What I do think is that you'll see 75mpg Ferraris in the future.
magoo (Magoo)
Intermediate Member
Username: Magoo

Post Number: 1929
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Friday, February 15, 2002 - 10:09 pm:   

Dullsville. That doesn't explain it, "GOD FORBID," is a better answer.
magoo (Magoo)
Intermediate Member
Username: Magoo

Post Number: 1926
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Friday, February 15, 2002 - 9:48 pm:   

I know no one wants to think of it but you see more and more reasearch being done on other modes of transportation. Can you imagine not having the Ferrari Passion. Or if you have it, it is a high powered battery driven version that makes no sound. Dullsville to me.

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