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| Sanjiv Menezes (Simplysanj)
New member Username: Simplysanj Post Number: 2 Registered: 2-2002 |
I have been following resin transfer molding and related technologies to eventually build my own boats/cars etc. so this is an interesting thread for me. Check out this discussion of lightweight panels: http://www.jeffchan.com/cars/lightweight.html The most interesting part for you would be the story about the Mosler MT900 and the company that machined the tooling for it. Not too far from what you are trying to do. Before you even think about starting (from a design perspective), research & study until you have every last detail and penny figured out. Good luck! | ||
| Jason Godsil (Godsil)
New member Username: Godsil Post Number: 48 Registered: 9-2001 |
I thank you all for commenting on this topic. Your advise was looked at very closely and I have come to a conclusion. I think I should start out small and just do the financing myself, create a track record and reputation and then try it. This is also the fastest way to do a project and I hate being idle at anything. This is the plan unless there is someone out there that wants to do this car. I have done up this drawing showing the look of this supercar as a body kit for an existing car, a '99-up Camaro. I have spoke with a company about doing this body kit in either fiberglass or Carbon Fiber and I should know this weekend or next week on prices. Anyway I thank you all and let me know what you think of this plan.  | ||
| Ernie Bonilla (Ernie)
Junior Member Username: Ernie Post Number: 129 Registered: 11-2001 |
Jason, are you gonna base it on a vett frame? Another thing is you will more likely get interest faster if you race it successfully. Take for example Saleen, Calloway. They used other manufacture cars with there own touch to much success. Then went of and did their own thing. Race it then sell it, just my two cents. | ||
| Harlan Mott (Hmott3)
New member Username: Hmott3 Post Number: 28 Registered: 12-2001 |
You could try contacting: Euroworks or K1 they sell/make a car called the Attack that is based on the accord about like yours will be based on the vette. Its all custom tubed chasis, total rebody, completly custom interior. Anyway it sounds to me like they have a setup to sell/make cars about like this one. They also sell "kit cars" but the attack is about as much a kit car as yours would be maybe you should contact them and see. Here is a link to the Attack: http://www.euroworksltd.com/Attack/ EuroWorks seems to just sell K1's stuff here in the US, you would probably need to contact K1 but you could try both. | ||
| nick m........ (Nickm)
New member Username: Nickm Post Number: 49 Registered: 8-2001 |
Also, If something looks like it might turn out. I know of a place (out in the middle of the boonies) where they do concept cars for the big manufactures. VW, Chevy, they also designed and built the "bat" mobile recently. Its a totaly "top secret" place, high dollar foam cutting CNC machines etc... They actually made the prototype new style Beetle a few years ago!! (I visited there with a friend one evening) Very impressive. If you are designing a kit for this type of car, you would almost for sure want to get all the panels scanned into a computer then cut up a block of foam for your parts. The foam then needs to be hand detailed (smoothed out, primered, blocked out again and again). The CNC machine will make sure EVERYTHING is symetric. I have a good friend who designs for a bunch of big car companies, he works on an SDRC software program, very smart guy! He helped design the whole dashboard, AC system, steering wheel, gauge cluster, etc.. for the new Nissan 300Z. He's also re-designed and shrunken down MRI machines, worked on designing the first at-home kidney dialysis machine. And alott more. Anyways... he is VERY much into cars (mostly wild Porsches) and has told me mant times he would like to design a car from ground up. Im pretty sure that would be too much work for him... but something like this, he might be willing to do somesort of partnership thing with you, who knows. If Spreewell provides a car that you can mess with, you provide the design (and help A BUNCH) my buddy could provide the computer program, Thne you just need someone to pay for all the mold making. My company could actually make the parts for you when your molds are done. (we are sooo busy we would have no time to make the molds for you, thats very time consuming) I can talk to my friend and see what he thinks if you would like me to. Then hook you guys up to talk. | ||
| nick m........ (Nickm)
New member Username: Nickm Post Number: 48 Registered: 8-2001 |
Ya know the basketball player that choked his coach a few years ago? Thats Latrell Sprewell. Despite what you might think of him from the choking (everybody gets a little mad once in a while, huh?) He's supposed to be a pretty nice guy actually, from what Ive heard. His Co. is called Spreewell racing, I'm sure they have a web sight, do a quick search and see what you can find. Pretty sure they are in LA area. Good luck, let me know what happens. | ||
| Jason Godsil (Godsil)
New member Username: Godsil Post Number: 47 Registered: 9-2001 |
That is why I post them on the internet. I have mailed this design to myself and if that wouldn't hold up in court I have it on about 4 different websites and it has the date on them when they were in the internet. Who is Latrell Spreewell? | ||
| nick m........ (Nickm)
New member Username: Nickm Post Number: 47 Registered: 8-2001 |
How bout somebody like a Latrell Spreewell? He's big time into cars. Only problem, gotta make sure who ever you pick dosent rip off you design. It could very easily be done by somebody with some money. There are allot of clay/foam shapers, after that, about $10K-$15K worth of molds and your dream is now somebody elses business. You almost HAVE to do it yourself, car folks can be cutthroat. | ||
| Jason Godsil (Godsil)
New member Username: Godsil Post Number: 46 Registered: 9-2001 |
I would love to do this. I see one major problem though. I do not have the money it takes to purchase a 360 or 355. This is the reason I will be looking for an investor for this concept car. Thanks for the advise though. | ||
| nick m........ (Nickm)
New member Username: Nickm Post Number: 45 Registered: 8-2001 |
Another idea. Why not offer this as an upgrade for an already existing F-car. There are quite a few companies in Germany doing this sort of thing for Porsches, BMW's, Lambo's, VW's. There are ALLOT of sports guys out there that will pay $50K-$80K+ just to have something different than the other guy. You could buy a car, get some shaping foam, make molds, make your parts, unbolt old parts, bolt on your new parts. Viola! New car, Recognized marque, factory servicing. When the new owner is asked what kind of car it is, he can reply "Ferrari"! Just something to think about. Alot less start-up cost also. PS. Your design looks VERY nice, guys WILL buy this as a rebodied F-car. | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
Member Username: Timn88 Post Number: 409 Registered: 6-2001 |
Great car. You might want to contact that guyy in sweeden, Koenigsegg, he was the one who biult that car that was trying to beat the mclarens fastest production car record. | ||
| Jason Godsil (Godsil)
New member Username: Godsil Post Number: 45 Registered: 9-2001 |
Ventilation is the front scoop. | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 1122 Registered: 12-2000 |
Beautiful car, I like the masculine touch for the same reasons I like the Viper. What's the front hood scoop for if it's mid-engined? You might have a market for racing teams in the ALMS and Grand Am GTS classes. The results of the Saleen S7 in racing have helped it's street car market. | ||
| Jason Godsil (Godsil)
New member Username: Godsil Post Number: 44 Registered: 9-2001 |
Mr. Solomon, I will copy your info into my address book and send you off a business plan when it is ready. Thank you for your reply. | ||
| Randy (Schatten)
Junior Member Username: Schatten Post Number: 206 Registered: 4-2001 |
I dig the concept! Very slick indeed! | ||
| Steven J. Solomon (Solly)
Junior Member Username: Solly Post Number: 185 Registered: 6-2001 |
I'm interested in seeing your business plan, when ready. Also, if you can bring in a running model for the cost of a Viper I'll buy the first one. | ||
| TWA (Exoticars)
Junior Member Username: Exoticars Post Number: 62 Registered: 8-2001 |
Very very nice looking concept, Jason!! ala McLaren ish. I like the F40 style rear hatch. You have serious talent my friend and good luck to you! | ||
| wm hart (Whart)
Junior Member Username: Whart Post Number: 63 Registered: 12-2001 |
Nice lookin' car, Dude. Seriously,Jason, you would have to go thru the tortures of the damned to cost justify this for production, to get any investors, at a time when even the big established automakers, if not retrenching, are surely unconfortable with the prospect of big bucks performance cars. A couple of ideas, though: TVR and GM had something going at one point. Since TVR actually builds some crazy cars, why not talk to them? There is also a guy in Sweden who was recently written up about his development of a very high performance car, made, if i remember correctly, largely from scratch. As to actual investors, you need somebody with alot more money than sense, since it is probably not a good business proposition, or somebody who is willing to put up money out of passion or for some other irrational reason. (eg. Kaddafi building a supercar that heallegedly designed to prove that Libya is an industrial player). If you need some help, happy to chat offline. Ciao. | ||
| Jason Godsil (Godsil)
New member Username: Godsil Post Number: 43 Registered: 9-2001 |
Well guys I have decided that since GM has not contacted me about building my concept car, I am going to do it myself. I was just wondering if you thought that if I looked for an investment partner if anyone of them would jump on this project? Let me bring you up to speed on this car again. 585hp C5R engine in the rear, 6-speed, 3,000lbs target weight, and tires measuring 345. I am also looking at building it with no frills and with the base engine of the 405hp Z06 motor, at around the cost of the Viper. I will have to get farther into the project before I think about prices though. Well what do you think?   |