| Author | Message | ||
| Edward Gault (Irfgt)
Member Username: Irfgt Post Number: 848 Registered: 2-2001 |
There is an elderly gentleman in the Corvair club that has a rather nice looking 65 Convertible but he has installed every piece of ornamentation, body side moulding, chrome plated shields and plates, steer horns on the hood, curb feelers, ETC, ETC. The car really looks gaudy as hell, but you know, I vote for his car every time he enters it in the peoples choice judging, not because I think it is the best looking car there but becaues HE thinks it is. He is the proudest owner there and that's all that matters. If you think your car looks good with whatever you put on it then that's all that matters. This is supposed to be fun. | ||
| Jim E (Jimpo1)
Member Username: Jimpo1 Post Number: 286 Registered: 7-2001 |
Buy the "puffy" shields with the sticky back, mount them on magnetic backing, then put them wherever you want. Mine go back and forth from the car to the toolbox depending on my mood. The guy that runs FOD has the shields on the fender of his red Suburban. | ||
| arthur chambers (Art355)
Junior Member Username: Art355 Post Number: 172 Registered: 6-2001 |
Adam: Great idea. Maybe I'll put them on my Z71 that I used to haul the race vehicles with. Art | ||
| Adam Goldman '86 TR (Icnsltmfg)
Junior Member Username: Icnsltmfg Post Number: 232 Registered: 8-2001 |
I put them on the TR. I think they add a but of colour to big slabs of red metal. It makes the car look just that much better. I chose the sticky puffy shields that can come off at anytime. For fun I put them on my MB ML430. They look great on the silver truck. It makes me feel better when I cannot drive the TR. | ||
| Richelson (Richelson)
Member Username: Richelson Post Number: 443 Registered: 12-2001 |
I like the side shields on Ferraris. I think that they look very pleasing. | ||
| Frederick Thomas (Fred)
Member Username: Fred Post Number: 337 Registered: 2-2001 |
The pizza guy, that would be me. Brian has my car running like a champ. When the weather clears up I am going to take it from Indy to Harrisburg P.A. It will be a nice drive on the P.A. turnpike. Lots of curvy mountain roads. BTW no badges on my car. I think if I were to have badges on a Ferrari it would be a 288 GTO but that is a bit out of my price range. Bottom line on the badges in my opinion is to each his own. | ||
| Brian stewart (Eurocardoc)
Junior Member Username: Eurocardoc Post Number: 166 Registered: 11-2001 |
I am not critisicing the people who put the badges on, just that the general buzz at any Ferrari gatherings around here is anti such appendages. My group range from pizza guy to billionaires, self made to lucky sperm, I won't say who I prefer dealing with! | ||
| David Jones (Dave)
Junior Member Username: Dave Post Number: 59 Registered: 4-2001 |
Hey Brian, some of us own Bimmers as well as F-Cars... As far as the racing badges go, it's your car do what you want with it. Put them on, when you get tired of them, take them off. My 308 had them on it when I bought it. I removed them about a year ago. I think the car looks great either way... | ||
| BobD (Bobd)
Junior Member Username: Bobd Post Number: 250 Registered: 3-2001 |
This has been discussed here before, bottom line it's a personal preference thing. Jerry W, to some this IS the equivalent of installing curb feelers or a hood scoop. Hood scoops and curb feelers didn't come on most of our cars. Neither did the SF Shield. So what's the difference? It's not like our cars don't draw enough attention without them. One recommendation, buy a $15 pair of the magnetic ones for a couple weeks. See if you really like the look before attaching something more permanent. Bottom line, it's your car, you paid for it... dress her however you like! | ||
| Brian stewart (Eurocardoc)
Junior Member Username: Eurocardoc Post Number: 162 Registered: 11-2001 |
I see lots with decals/badges added, lots without. The deciding factor seems to be class of owner. I go with the race history/ omologato theme. Although the decals do look OK on some models, Daytona not 330GTC for example. IMHO. At least F-car owners are all above the Bimmer drivers (there IS a group that would rush to Big Lots for the latest "Schnitzer" part!). | ||
| Jerry W. (Tork1966)
Junior Member Username: Tork1966 Post Number: 114 Registered: 7-2001 |
I don't understand why some of you are so much against the decal type shields, so if you change your mind and want them off you simply pull them off with a heat gun and rub out the area. It's not as if we're putting curb feelers and a hood scoop on our cars. Anyway, to each his (or her) own. Jerry. | ||
| Jason Fraser (Jfraser)
Junior Member Username: Jfraser Post Number: 88 Registered: 3-2001 |
The enamel shields specifically for the 360 only fit if you have the recess in the wing....the enamel shields are angled and won't fit a normal wing (expensive $600 learner curve I went thru) they are held in place with 2 pins and bonding tape....They are heavy, so you can't just rely on the tape....I didn't want to recess the wing, so I used the resin shields...I actually like them better....they don't look quite so bulky, are identical in size and have a nicer bevel on the shield edge | ||
| BobD (Bobd)
Junior Member Username: Bobd Post Number: 248 Registered: 3-2001 |
Whart, I'm with you... except for the Suburu part. :-) | ||
| wm hart (Whart)
Junior Member Username: Whart Post Number: 64 Registered: 12-2001 |
To me, these are like the LV luggage; ok without the logo motif and too much with it. May be cool on a pre war alfa, and on some of the competition F cars of old, but its sort of like wearing a ferrari suit while driving your ferrari. I do, howver, have a scudie shield on my suburu. | ||
| '75 308 GT4 (Peter)
Intermediate Member Username: Peter Post Number: 1575 Registered: 12-2000 |
In other words, the exception that proves the rule, is the rule. | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
Intermediate Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 1687 Registered: 2-2001 |
The should've clarified better I guess, I only used the F40 and F50 as examples, there are others with shields as well. The only cars from the factory that were road going with shields were cars that were limited edition and competition style cars. There are earlier models with shields on them as well, but they followed this suit. Race cars made street worthy. | ||
| Randy Ines (Raines)
New member Username: Raines Post Number: 44 Registered: 7-2001 |
The recessed shield looks VERY classy! How is it attached?...Bolted?...Epoxied? I bet you have to be careful not to get any wax in there. | ||
| Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Member Username: Parkerfe Post Number: 598 Registered: 9-2001 |
I believe that both the 288GTO and F40 came in "LM" versions which were for racing. The street legal versions of those models also had the shield. The 365GT4BB and 512BB came with "LM" versions too that had the shields although the street 365GT4BB and 512BB did not. | ||
| Martin (Miami348ts)
Intermediate Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 1507 Registered: 5-2001 |
Frank, the 288GTO is a cross between the racing edition and the street version. It was made as a racing car the O in GTO gives that away. So in truth and fact, Bret is right it was only put in racing cars or cars that were intended for racing purposes only. Like the F40 as well. That is in theory also a street legal car but more a race car than street, same as the GTO. After all it is about taste. I like it a lot. | ||
| Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Member Username: Parkerfe Post Number: 596 Registered: 9-2001 |
Bret, shields did come on the 288GTO in 1983 which was a road car and before Enzo's death. | ||
| nick m........ (Nickm)
Junior Member Username: Nickm Post Number: 55 Registered: 8-2001 |
They call those scuderia badges "jewelry for you car". Guess thats why they are a bit pricey. | ||
| nick m........ (Nickm)
Junior Member Username: Nickm Post Number: 54 Registered: 8-2001 |
Hi Rick, That enameled sheild should be an option on your 360. That's what Ive heard. | ||
| nick m........ (Nickm)
Junior Member Username: Nickm Post Number: 53 Registered: 8-2001 |
That was weird! I wonder why 2 photos went up there?????? | ||
| nick m........ (Nickm)
Junior Member Username: Nickm Post Number: 52 Registered: 8-2001 |
 Heres a photo of the badges I should have in about 3-4 weeks. Hopefully the guy follows through with the trade. Anybody might be interested in a set??? Check the dealers price, I'm pretty sure a set of these will set you back $1100-$1,700 a pair. I will keep everybody posted.  | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
Intermediate Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 1682 Registered: 2-2001 |
See it recessed:  | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
Intermediate Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 1678 Registered: 2-2001 |
I'm not really sure why he wouldn't put them on road cars, I would imagine it came from his slight resentment of them in general (only did it to finance his race team, although I think eventually road car production grew on him a little). It's interesting to see how until he died no road cars ever had them, now they're a common sight. | ||
| Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Member Username: Parkerfe Post Number: 589 Registered: 9-2001 |
I believe he does have to repaint the fenders Rick. He has to indent the shape of the shield into the fender and I'm sure that would crack the paint. Give Beau a call. He's a nice fellow and will answer any questions you have. He has been doing the body work for FAF now FOA since the 1970s. I have seen a 250GTO in his shop before being restored. He knows what he is doing. | ||
| RICK ROMERO (Tr90)
Junior Member Username: Tr90 Post Number: 107 Registered: 4-2001 |
Frank, do they have to paint the bumper when the recess the shield? | ||
| Mark McKenzie (Redcar)
Junior Member Username: Redcar Post Number: 62 Registered: 4-2001 |
I have magnetic shields on, and really like them. You can take them off to wash and wax, and from any distance at all they look just like the recessed ones. Also, if I change my mind, they come right off. I found the seller on ebay. Mark McKenzie | ||
| Randy Ines (Raines)
New member Username: Raines Post Number: 42 Registered: 7-2001 |
Bret- Thanks for the background. What is the reason why Enzo said, we would never put them on a road car? Martin- I was going to ask if yours was enamel filled and recessed, but I guess you answered that. Looking good! Can someone upload a pic or point to a site where we can see what the enamel filled and recessed shield looks like? Frankly, I didn't know it was an option. | ||
| arthur chambers (Art355)
Junior Member Username: Art355 Post Number: 150 Registered: 6-2001 |
Martin: You're right. I used the stick on units and unless you get within 5' of them, you can't tell the difference, and I was quoted $1500 to put the other ones on the car. | ||
| Martin (Miami348ts)
Intermediate Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 1504 Registered: 5-2001 |
hmm, I think the outside badge does just as well and is only $ 15 each! If you go with the good one, you would have to recess them otherwise you will have kids prying them off. | ||
| Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Member Username: Parkerfe Post Number: 588 Registered: 9-2001 |
Rick, Beau Pirkle here in the Atlanta area, 770.939.6982, has been recessing Shields in Ferarris every since the 288GTO came out. I have seen a lot of cars and/or front fenders shipped to him from all over the U.S. to have it done. When he's done it looks just like it came from Maranello. Give him a call. | ||
| Terry Daniel (Dogue)
New member Username: Dogue Post Number: 12 Registered: 9-2001 |
Rick, I believe it is done by the Factory. I know you can order the enamel sheilds at about $350ea. or contact nickm that wrote that he could get a set for $350, but to recess the badges it would have to be done at the factory. You may find a body shop that could recess them, but I would figure that would be very expensive. | ||
| RICK ROMERO (Tr90)
Junior Member Username: Tr90 Post Number: 106 Registered: 4-2001 |
can a shield be put on by a ferrari dealer enamel filled and recessed or is it only done in the factory. I am getting a 360 which does not have the shield and do not want to put a sticker on it. | ||
| Terry Daniel (Dogue)
New member Username: Dogue Post Number: 10 Registered: 9-2001 |
I will never understand putting stickers on a Ferrari. The Scuderia Shields look very nice when they are enamel filled and recessed. | ||
| nick m........ (Nickm)
Junior Member Username: Nickm Post Number: 51 Registered: 8-2001 |
Bret, instead of the stickers, if you'ld like the enameled badge, I'm going to be trading for a few sets of them in about 3 weeks. I should have a couple sets that I would like to sell to get some money back in my pocket. From what it looks like I could probably sell them for around $350-400 a set. You know what the dealer wants for them. When I get them I could send you a photo if you are interested. | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
Intermediate Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 1670 Registered: 2-2001 |
When Ferrari started running the racing program for Alfa back before WWII he distinguished the cars by putting the Scuderia Ferrari shield on them, which followed through till even now (look at the side of the F1 car). The shield was given to Enzo Ferrari by the mother of the Count of Baracca, who bore the shield (before his demise) on the side of his WWI plane. Enzo Ferrari changed it around a bit, most notably by making the tail raised on his version to look a bit more aggressive. He said that we would never put them on a road car, only the racing models (F40, F50), but I have to admit they sure do look nice. | ||
| Martin (Miami348ts)
Intermediate Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 1497 Registered: 5-2001 |
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| Martin (Miami348ts)
Intermediate Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 1496 Registered: 5-2001 |
Racing history.... The stickers look great as well. Look at my profile, wait, let me see if I have the right picture on it. | ||
| Randy Ines (Raines)
New member Username: Raines Post Number: 40 Registered: 7-2001 |
Okay, I've seen several "SF" stickers- Scuderia Ferrari (Prancing horse on yellow background shield) on the front quarter panels...mostly on 308s. I like it, but before I start placing stickers all over my 308, I'd like to know where this comes from...racing history?...personal taste?...cover rust spot (mine,ouch)?...What? Your feedback is appreciated. |