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Martin (Miami348ts)
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Username: Miami348ts

Post Number: 2321
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 - 2:24 pm:   

Crap,
that is the other side of the world for me. We are talking 500 Miles plus.
Sorry but I guess I have to stick to our sticky beach here in Miami then.

Have fun though. Hopoe you got better weather up there than what we have currently here in Miami. Yuck!
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
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Username: Parkerfe

Post Number: 1008
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 - 2:12 pm:   

Martin, Cape San Blas is in Gulf County, Florida just off the coast of Port St. Joe. It is about 30 miles west of St George Island and 20 miles east of Mexico Beach.
Martin (Miami348ts)
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Username: Miami348ts

Post Number: 2319
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 - 2:03 pm:   

where is that exactly?
I am ready for a road trip with the F. LA has really put water in my mouth.

MAybe it is that I can not see the damn rain anymore here in Miami. It is driving me wild. For 2 weeks now continuous rain. WHERE IS THE SUN ?
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
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Username: Parkerfe

Post Number: 1005
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 - 8:41 am:   

I received a call from Ron at FOA this morning. It seemed that my Dino 348 Spider had a lose positive cable at the battery which was preventing it from being charged by the alternator when the engine was running. So the car would run on the battery a few minutes and then shut down. After the battery cooled down a while it would develope a static charge enough to restart the car and start the cycle over. So my Dino is back running again just in time for my beach trip to Cape San Blas next week ! My wife and kids leave on Sunday and I'll drive the Dino down on Wednesday By the way, anyone who lives in the SE must take a trip to Cape San Blas. It is the #1 beach in the U.S.A. per Dr. Beach and is a wonderful place to vacate. The beach, the bay, the seafood are all to die for.
acw (Acw)
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Username: Acw

Post Number: 45
Registered: 2-2002
Posted on Monday, June 24, 2002 - 11:54 pm:   

Frank,

I had a similar problem on my Dino Modena. It was a bad connector/cable between the battery and the car. The car was running great and suddenly stopped working. At first I thought it was a bad battery so I drove to the ferrari dealer to buy a new battery, but that did not help. They changed the connectors/cable and since then the problem has been resolved.

ACW
Modified348ts (Modman)
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Username: Modman

Post Number: 240
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Monday, June 24, 2002 - 11:41 pm:   

Frank, does you car have an aftermarket alarm which cuts out the ignition? I had a problem which I solved when the car could not turn over, not even a click from the starter motor. I ran an external relay which gave the starter solenoid full 12v which the original ign. type wire ran to it was not strong enough to even make the starter solenoid work.
Dave Wapinski (Davewapinski)
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Username: Davewapinski

Post Number: 232
Registered: 8-2001
Posted on Monday, June 24, 2002 - 1:34 pm:   

Frank,

I am far from an expert, but I normally am a good problem solver. See my comments under 12 cyl.

Is there a relay that controls the starter and could shut down the car? That could be going bad or overheating. Sounds like some kind of relay. Could the starter be going bad? Bad grounds cause so many problems. However, they normally do not have a time element.

Good luck, hope it is minor.

Dave
TomD (Tifosi)
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Username: Tifosi

Post Number: 897
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Monday, June 24, 2002 - 1:23 pm:   

she might like having her own
TomD (Tifosi)
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Username: Tifosi

Post Number: 896
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Monday, June 24, 2002 - 1:22 pm:   

f-car - what else?
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
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Username: Parkerfe

Post Number: 998
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Monday, June 24, 2002 - 1:16 pm:   

Tom, "...another one..." what ?
TomD (Tifosi)
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Username: Tifosi

Post Number: 893
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Monday, June 24, 2002 - 12:30 pm:   

don't let it discourage her but maybe you can use it to get another one :-)
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
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Username: Parkerfe

Post Number: 997
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Monday, June 24, 2002 - 12:23 pm:   

Tom, both of us pray about the safety of our family all the time. And, you're correct the tire slashing episode happened the last time she drove it. So she's a little gun shy about driving iy by herself now as the last two times something has happened.
TomD (Tifosi)
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Username: Tifosi

Post Number: 891
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Monday, June 24, 2002 - 12:03 pm:   

next time she takes it to church, have her pray for a trouble free ride home :-) Your wife seems to have trouble with your car - didn't the tires get slashed when she had it. hope you find the problem, good luck
Martin (Miami348ts)
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Username: Miami348ts

Post Number: 2299
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Monday, June 24, 2002 - 11:56 am:   

Frank,
there is two wires that are positive going from the battery. Check them both, one may be okay, the other broken, because it is bent a little more. I had that, but then this was the problem to start it.

A ground sounds plausable as well. Could be rattling off.
ross koller (Ross)
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Username: Ross

Post Number: 139
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Thursday, June 20, 2002 - 10:41 am:   

this echoes another recent thread. i also had this problem on my 348 and it turned out to be a loose wire from the battery right at the starter motor. another fellow answered that with his car having the same loose wire but at the battery end. i realize this is very un-technical but as always it could be a very small thing like that.
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Member
Username: Parkerfe

Post Number: 984
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Thursday, June 20, 2002 - 10:35 am:   

No, the slow down lights are not coming on when the car shuts down. FOA says that the ground from the alternator to the frame often goes bad and causes this sort of problem. I will report back once I hear what they find.
arthur chambers (Art355)
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Username: Art355

Post Number: 480
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Thursday, June 20, 2002 - 10:18 am:   

Frank:

My 348 had a similar problem. Has anyone checked the ECU? Do the slow-down lights come on? Could very well be the oxy sensor giving bad readings, and the engine shutting itself off because it thinks the converter is getting too hot.

Art
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
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Username: Parkerfe

Post Number: 983
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Thursday, June 20, 2002 - 8:49 am:   

The car holds a charge just fine. Even when the car won't start for the 10 minute or so period, the horn, power windows, lights all work fine. When the car then starts a few minutes later, the starter turns over quickly and starts the engine right up. So the battery has power, it just isn't reaching the starter/engine for the 10 minute or so period.
Tenney (Tenney)
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Username: Tenney

Post Number: 174
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Thursday, June 20, 2002 - 8:44 am:   

Alternator (or alt. related) makes sense because, as you stated, the car starts but won't hold a charge.
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Member
Username: Parkerfe

Post Number: 981
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Thursday, June 20, 2002 - 8:31 am:   

My wife drove my car to church last night and all seemed fine, at first. On the way home the car just died in the middle of the road. She called me and I got there about 15 minutes later and the car started up fine. As I headed home in the car it died again. After waiting 10 minutes or so the car again started up fine. If you try to restart the car without waiting at least 10 minutes, the alarm goes off when you turn the key but there is no sound whatsoever from the engine. No starter, no clicking, nothing...like the battery is dead yet all the other electrical assessories work fine. Not wanting to cause any damage I had the car flatbedded to FOA. After talking to Ron at FOA this morning he seems to think it is a loose ground on the alternator. He will let me know what he finds later today. What say you guys ?

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