| Author | Message | ||
| Arnaldo Torres (Caribe)
Member Username: Caribe Post Number: 377 Registered: 2-2001 |
I stopped today at Blackhorse motorsports to service my TR, and they had three black Diablos. I had always love the look of the Diablo, but I've never seen one right next to a TR before. Just seen my TR next to the Diablo made me appreciate my TR even more. The Diablo is very impressive looking, as it has a very stricking design. It also looks much bigger than my TR (and I thought the TR was big). The TR seemed so delicate and beautiful in comparison. Certainly a proud and confident Italian babe in spite of the competition. They also had a red 550 Barchetta. Again, same impression. The Ferraris were more refine looking. If you want to shock and are thirsty for looks, the Lambos are the car for you. If you want refinement, and a softer approach to your rides, I am yet to fine a better example than a Ferrari. | ||
| Ben Cannon (Artherd)
New member Username: Artherd Post Number: 26 Registered: 6-2002 |
"The Ferrari is a Michelangelo, the Lambo like a Picasso - two different styles that appeal to certain individuals" I think this sums it up PERFECTLY  Best! Ben. | ||
| Manu Sachdeva (Manu)
Member Username: Manu Post Number: 333 Registered: 2-2002 |
We all need to know how the car DRIVES. IMO the 575 is probably the best car in the world (IMO) but this Murcielago has 570hp...... we'll see shortly. | ||
| Dave L (Davel)
Junior Member Username: Davel Post Number: 167 Registered: 7-2001 |
No doubt about it. The Lambo would be the choice. Rarer and more of a statement in terms of engineering and style. You only live once....Id get a Lambo. The 550/575 is more common and well known. Take the road less traveled every now and then and enrich your life. | ||
| Anthony Acunzo (Yank05)
Junior Member Username: Yank05 Post Number: 67 Registered: 8-2001 |
That's right, Ernesto. The best designs, not only in the automotive world, remain timeless and become benchmarks on which all others are judged/based. | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Member Username: T88power Post Number: 451 Registered: 2-2001 |
I have yet to see a Ferrari that has become "outdated"... Ernesto | ||
| Anthony Acunzo (Yank05)
Junior Member Username: Yank05 Post Number: 66 Registered: 8-2001 |
Modman, yes the Lambo no doubt has stunning performance. The 575 is featured in the latest issue of Forza - I have not read it yet though.... Thank you Ross, you may borrow it! Anthony | ||
| ross koller (Ross)
Junior Member Username: Ross Post Number: 151 Registered: 3-2002 |
anthony, very well put. i'm going to borrow that last line. | ||
| Modified348ts (Modman)
Junior Member Username: Modman Post Number: 244 Registered: 11-2001 |
Anthony, yes they are both different in styling but what about performance differences? I haven't had the time to check specs for the 575 yet. The Murcielago was rated highly from road tests... | ||
| Anthony Acunzo (Yank05)
Junior Member Username: Yank05 Post Number: 65 Registered: 8-2001 |
Modman, if I could get my hands on a Lambo, that would mean I could get my hands on the beautiful, tasteful and elegant 575 - so I would buy the 575. The Lambo has a geometric wedge theme that I am not fond of, in fact it is very cold looking to me - my opinion of course. Car manufacturers, both foreign and domestic, are putting lots of class, clean lines and personality in their new cars that hint at vehicles of yesteryear (too many to name) - the key is keeping it modern at the same time. Ferrari has done a great job in my opinion. The Ferrari is a Michelangelo, the Lambo like a Picasso - two different styles that appeal to certain individuals. | ||
| Modified348ts (Modman)
Junior Member Username: Modman Post Number: 243 Registered: 11-2001 |
Anthony, I'm sure if you can get your hands on one your opinion would differ completely. I used to think that way when I knew I couldn't get my hands on certain vehicles back in the days and settled for what I had and tried to grow and settle for what I have. And I know most of here went through that period or still going through it. The future of cars are beginning to look more rounded so you may have to get used to the future of spaceship looking cars or just keep what you have and let it be outdated. | ||
| Manu Sachdeva (Manu)
Member Username: Manu Post Number: 318 Registered: 2-2002 |
Ross - about the drive - Kevin is going to get back to me - 6th July - Old Brompton Road, London, looks like... but may be Reading...hmmmm - will get back to you ASAP. Either way we MUST see the car in the metal! �163,000 in the UK with 12 month lead time - not bad - Have to wait longer for a 575! | ||
| Anthony Acunzo (Yank05)
Junior Member Username: Yank05 Post Number: 64 Registered: 8-2001 |
...putting performance aside........... The Ferrari is class, the lambo is flash. I can not warm up to any vehicle that looks like a spaceship...just my opinion. | ||
| ross koller (Ross)
Junior Member Username: Ross Post Number: 146 Registered: 3-2002 |
ernie, am beginning to think you are right.... manu, re the drive, need to know where and when... | ||
| Ernie Bonilla (Ernie)
Member Username: Ernie Post Number: 300 Registered: 11-2001 |
I hate to say it but the new Murcielago is one mean machine. If I had to chose between the two, seeing as I already have a Ferrari, I would have to get the New Lambo. From all the articles I have read that car is no joke. The 575 is a great machine but I have to say that the Murcielago would have to be my choice. | ||
| Manu Sachdeva (Manu)
Member Username: Manu Post Number: 317 Registered: 2-2002 |
Tino - have you ordered a 575? What's your delivery time? | ||
| Manu Sachdeva (Manu)
Member Username: Manu Post Number: 316 Registered: 2-2002 |
The two cars ARE compared.... Definitely - at least in the UK they are. Until I see one in real life I really cannot pass judgment on looks. I don't want an embarrassing car and the Lambo may just well be that. (like I can actually buy one...) I can't wait to see it though. And I really want to know what it SOUNDS like (in a way this latter point is more important to me than anything else) - I've heard that it sounds a little meek compared to the Diablo...... | ||
| Roger Arlen (Rogera)
New member Username: Rogera Post Number: 4 Registered: 5-2002 |
A good friend took delivery of a Murclielago this weekend and I was fortunate enough to participate in the experience, including some fabulous time driving the car. I don't have time for a detailed write up but it is a very different car than what I've experienced with the 550 (I've not yet driven a 575). While the 550 gets the attention that Cindy Crawford might get while walking down the road, the Murclielago gets the attention that Cindy would get walking down the raod -- totally NUDE! The photo should explain it all. In terms of driving experience, the 550 is worlds more practical and great fun, but nothing like the "experience" in the Lambo. I really don't know that these cars should be compared, as one is a GT and the other is an extreme sportscar. More later.  | ||
| Manu Sachdeva (Manu)
Member Username: Manu Post Number: 315 Registered: 2-2002 |
The 575 interior is leagues ahead of the boring Lambo interior (from pictures of the Lambo) and I think the Maranello's design will not date like the Lambos may.... IMO both are a lot nicer than the (still-fabulous) 360. Ross - it depends on how good Kevin's persuasion skills are as to whether we ALL get to drive one. | ||
| Tino (Bboxer)
Junior Member Username: Bboxer Post Number: 107 Registered: 8-2001 |
Took a 575M for a long 45 minutes test drive Friday. Awesome power (front end lifts a bit under acceleration), lots of torque and really improved F1 transmission (two additional features for smooth launch and drag launch). Still understeers a little and feels heavy under braking, but more nimble than a 550. I was happy with my decision to get mine until Saturday morning when I went with some friends for some spirited canyon driving in my 360. Now I am confused again and really hesitant. The 360 is much more satisfying and fun if you're DRIVING ! | ||
| Dave (Maranelloman)
Junior Member Username: Maranelloman Post Number: 221 Registered: 1-2002 |
Actually, even as a 550 owner, I believe, in person, the Murcielago IS sexier than the 550/575. It is pure fantasy in carbon fibre & aluminum, and has a presence that no other car I have ever seen in person can match. Closest in that category, IMHO? In no particular order, the 550, 250 GTO, Daytona spyder, NART spyder, California spyder. | ||
| ross koller (Ross)
Junior Member Username: Ross Post Number: 143 Registered: 3-2002 |
this reminds me of another thread where i got flamed for saying the murcielago was sexier than the 575.....anyway, from what i can tell having only seen the cars, (and hopefully driving one on saturday) if you are the least bit concerned about practicality then you have to pick the 575. if that is not a consideration and you are just looking for the latest heartthrob, then the lambo is way cool, and it will stay that way. so i'll end this response with the same question i asked in the other thread: don't you want ferrari to build a mid engine 12 cylinder car at about the same cost as the 575 ? | ||
| Dave (Maranelloman)
Junior Member Username: Maranelloman Post Number: 220 Registered: 1-2002 |
I believe they changed from the rectangle (remember--AW said that the vehicle they tested was the 1st one into the US, to train dealer service personnel) to the triangle. I believe the current US production cars have the triangle (at least the 2 I saw in Montreal earlier in the month, with Florida plates, did). | ||
| Jason Godsil (Godsil)
Junior Member Username: Godsil Post Number: 92 Registered: 9-2001 |
I read the article on the Murcielago in autoweek a few days ago and noticed something. The triangle turn signal on the fender has been changed to a rectangle. Is this a last minute styling change or is this typical US safety crap? I really liked the rectangle. | ||
| Steve (V10_nut)
New member Username: V10_nut Post Number: 15 Registered: 3-2002 |
Ajay...To answer your question about rearward visibility...it's still problematic in the Murcielago and an unfortunate compromise when you stuff that big engine behind you. The Mclaren F1 is the same way even with two rear view mirrors. The Murcielago does have much larger side mirrors which are better than the Diablo and retract electronically ala Mercedes S class. | ||
| Manu Sachdeva (Manu)
Member Username: Manu Post Number: 311 Registered: 2-2002 |
Well, Ajay - having got Kevins email - we'll be checking the Murcielago out in person in a few weeks time - (driving) impressions to follow. Incidentally guys - you're wrong if you say the two cars are aimed at totally different people - THAT IS WRONG - The UK lambo dealer has said that most guys that have ordered a Murcielago ALSO OWN a 550 Maranello too. | ||
| Ajay Mehta (Ajay)
New member Username: Ajay Post Number: 3 Registered: 5-2002 |
Steve, have Lambo got the visibility right this time with the Murcialago?? I remember tales of people having to fit cameras to the rear of their diablos in order to get a better rear view, (huge problem when reverse parking!). There is no doubt that the Murcialago is devastating in the looks department, but all round the 575 is hard to beat. | ||
| Modified348ts (Modman)
Junior Member Username: Modman Post Number: 237 Registered: 11-2001 |
Hey Jack, it's kinda like shopping for women! he he... well it's not what's in their minds is it? no it was the curves of the body, no it was the badge below! it bought you! Oh no.... | ||
| Jack (Gilles27)
Member Username: Gilles27 Post Number: 428 Registered: 3-2002 |
Modman, how can you say that? I bought mine for the look, the name, wait...never mind.;0> | ||
| Steve (V10_nut)
New member Username: V10_nut Post Number: 14 Registered: 3-2002 |
While personally I'd probably opt for the 575 I have to say the Murcielago is an amazing driver with improvements over the Diablo in almost every category. The fit and finish is on a par with anything coming out of Maranello and if 580hp isn't enough to keep you interested then you might consider checking to see if you still have a pulse. Yes Ajay, the tractor boys got it right! | ||
| Modified348ts (Modman)
Junior Member Username: Modman Post Number: 236 Registered: 11-2001 |
I feel from experience that the wow factor on any car dies out eventually, I haven't driven the 348 for a couple of months so it is going to go bye bye. I am though looking for a future later model Ferrari and going to be patient to see what the new one is going to be like. And as I said before unless you have driven both cars you can't come close to a good fair decision. You all know you didn't buy a Ferrari because it's fast, it was the look, the name, affordable exotic to some whereas a new Lambo, F50, an so on may never be in some of our hands to drive to find out the reality of what you would really like. It's only an opinion and not a reality so it's just bad judgement till you really try them both for yourself. I've read too many articles in magazines and found some of them opinionated and differentiated. | ||
| Willis Huang (Willis360)
Member Username: Willis360 Post Number: 759 Registered: 8-2001 |
How long does that WOW factor for the owner last though? I think the Lambo would be tiring after a while. The 575M gets my vote. | ||
| Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
Junior Member Username: Ronsupercar Post Number: 143 Registered: 5-2002 |
If your looking to WOW the crowd and yourself anytime you climb in, the Lambo is the way to go. Visiblity is really bad though. I like to know what's around me when I drive, so the 575M is more of a civilized drive for me. | ||
| Patrick (Patrickr)
New member Username: Patrickr Post Number: 27 Registered: 4-2002 |
What a decision... if I had the bucks to spend I would probably go with the 575. The car just screams classy to me. The Lambo of course would be a real head turner and is quite rare but so are Ferrari's (atleast in my part of the country). Anyways, it is a toss up but I would probably go with the Ferrari considering it is a little more, dare I say, practical. Patrick | ||
| Jeffrey Robbins (Teachdna)
New member Username: Teachdna Post Number: 41 Registered: 9-2001 |
Autoweek had an extensive article on the lambo. I'd read it http://www.autoweek.com/cat_content.mv?cat_code=coverstory&loc_code=index&content_code=09298123 I haven't driven the Lambo but it's got a little too much of a head-turner appeal for me. I'd definitely go with the more subdued 575 (if any Ferrari can be called subdued). | ||
| Jack (Gilles27)
Member Username: Gilles27 Post Number: 425 Registered: 3-2002 |
First of all, I think it's a "win/win" choice. I'm more of a Ferrari person, but the Lambos are pretty awesome too. The 575 strikes me as more of a liveable car, though. | ||
| Vince (Manatee)
New member Username: Manatee Post Number: 35 Registered: 6-2002 |
I chose the 575 over the Murcielago and the Vanquish. I'm not into status, showing off, or having to be 'way out there', so no Lambo. Between the Vanquish and the Ferrari I went with the 575, becasue the 575 to me was a known quantity. The Vanquish was extremely posh. Almost too much so. | ||
| Ben Cannon (Artherd)
New member Username: Artherd Post Number: 3 Registered: 6-2002 |
They're very different cars. The 575/550 is a very "olde Ferrari" in feel, and nostalgia. Top down, scarf on, driving gloves, thick accents. V-12 and RED RED RED! The Murcialago is a Supercar, mid-engine, big, fast, mean, leather jacket. Still Italian, make no mistake. Haven't seen one in person yet, so who really knows? I for one liked the Diablo's interior, had a nice hand-made feel (like the recent V8 Esprits.) In short? (and the advice I will always give) GO for whichever car moves you the most deeply! | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Member Username: T88power Post Number: 438 Registered: 2-2001 |
If your main purpose is to turn heads, then definitely go for the Lambo. Otherwise, go for the Ferrari. Ernesto | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
Intermediate Member Username: Timn88 Post Number: 1142 Registered: 6-2001 |
Thats a close one to call. I'd go with the Ferrari just because i like the sleek lines of the 575, and the comfortable interior, although the Lambo's interior is a huge improvement over the diablo from what i understand. It woulf probably be alot cheaper and eaiser to have the 575 serivced. Im curious as to the reliability of the Lambo now that they are owner by Audi. I think they are aimed at different markets though, the 575 is more of a GT car. I think the 575 is alot more exotic. It just has the exotic looks. If someone offered me the keys to either a 575 or a Murcielago, id actually go with the lambo. Its too hard to pass up | ||
| Ajay Mehta (Ajay)
New member Username: Ajay Post Number: 2 Registered: 5-2002 |
It would be interesting to find out what everyones opinion is on the new lambo? Have the tractor boys got it right this time? There is no doubt in my mind that the 575 is an absolutely gorgeous car.Good looking and with a luxurious interior and the ultimate road presence backed with the success of the 550.....but the new lambo....devastating looks, rare, and a real head turner. Do they compare or are they aimed at totally different markets? Its a tough choice if you had to choose one, but I'd be tempted to stick to the Maranello produce, but perhaps I'm a bit biased. Which car would everyone else choose? |