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Steven J. Solomon (Solly)
Member
Username: Solly
Post Number: 319
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Monday, July 08, 2002 - 5:09 pm: | |
I have a friend with a 360 spyder who was at Pocono with us. Had the Hamann oz-racing wheels with 335's in back, 275's in front. I didn't notice any difference on corner entry/exit speed between his car and mine with 275's in rear. The factory has done a beautiful job with this car, and if you are a VERY experienced racer you may get an extra few mph corner speed, but if you are a weekend warrior like most of us, don't bother. |
Dave Penhale (Dapper)
Junior Member
Username: Dapper
Post Number: 103
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Monday, July 08, 2002 - 4:02 pm: | |
Don't let this post eventually be an 'I told you so' and end up by costing you more than you bargained for, we have your welfare at heart. It aint just me saying it here, others are also but in a more subtle way (besides stating the obvious, that wider wheels hence tyres usually mean more grip if it can be exploited)
To have earnt enough to get a 360 you clearly must have a great deal of sense, use it. |
Manu Sachdeva (Manu)
Member
Username: Manu
Post Number: 327
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Monday, July 08, 2002 - 12:27 pm: | |
Don't go too big - it will wreck the handling of your car, following cambers and riding appallingly harsh - moreoever it may change the break-away characteristics of your Ferrari (possibly becoming more critical on the limit) depending on the type of rubber fitted to the wheels. |
Brian Kennedy (Kennedy)
Junior Member
Username: Kennedy
Post Number: 124
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Monday, July 08, 2002 - 9:34 am: | |
I haven't done this yet myself (I am still experimenting with track tires before I decide how I want to handle wheels)... but I have a friend who autocrosses... rules do not allow the wheels to be extended beyond the bodywork... he has put 13" wheels in there without problem. Just looking at my 360, there is tons of room on the inside of the wheel wells... you could probably go even wider (with all the width going towards the inside of the car), though its hard to find tires wider than 13".
Wider wheels/tires are not going to damage rotors or brakes. Running on the track will stress rotors and brakes... and that's why you go get race rotors and pads.
The purpose of replacing the wheels (as suggested in that recent post) is not for looks... its for *performance*. Wider and lighter can make a big difference on track and in autocross. If you're just cruising on the street, don't bother... you have to get to the limit of adhesion to benefit... and doing so on the street would be stupid.
Looks is an issue though... when I replace mine, I will be looking for wheels that look the same, as much as possible. Ideally, lightweight forged wheels that are designed to look exactly like the wheels that come on the 360.
Brian
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Nunja Bitness (Jaxfl)
Junior Member
Username: Jaxfl
Post Number: 99
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Monday, July 08, 2002 - 9:01 am: | |
Those slightly wider challenge wheels are sounding better all the time. |
John Delvac (Johndelvac)
New member
Username: Johndelvac
Post Number: 41
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Monday, July 08, 2002 - 8:59 am: | |
At Ferrari of Atlanta I saw some ball player's 360 where he replaced the wheels (with something less attractive I might add). He did over $5,000 worth of damage to his car by doing so. I felt his rotors & they were all pitted, grooved & rough. Unless you are buying BBSs for track use, I'd forget it. Why would you want anything different anyway? Does a Ferrari need to stand out more than it does anyhow? |
Nunja Bitness (Jaxfl)
Junior Member
Username: Jaxfl
Post Number: 98
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Monday, July 08, 2002 - 8:37 am: | |
Dave,
I wouldn't put rims on it that exceeded the wheel wells. I read a post that said 13 inch wide wheels could be put on it. I didn't know exactly how wide they could go without exceeding the wheel wells. I don't know too many people who would take 11 inch wide wheels if Lamborghini offered its buyers 11 inch wide rears or 13 inch wide rears. Wider always looks better until it exceeds the wheel well. Then, as you noted it becomes a ricer move. |
Dave Penhale (Dapper)
Junior Member
Username: Dapper
Post Number: 102
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Monday, July 08, 2002 - 2:07 am: | |
One of the 'cons' (besides looking stupid...but then, each to his own) would be knocking rear wheel bearings and possibly even drive joints out for a pastime!
The 360 looks awesome standard, why on earth would you want to spoil it by pulling rice burner type mods on it?
I guess the old saying is true, 'you can't BUY taste, you either have it or you don't' |
Nunja Bitness (Jaxfl)
Junior Member
Username: Jaxfl
Post Number: 97
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, July 07, 2002 - 10:08 pm: | |
Thanks for all of the feedback. I wonder if Volk Racing TE-37's in the same size as the challenge wheels would be much lighter. I tend to think so. I wonder if the Volk's come in 18X11. |
Randy (Schatten)
Member
Username: Schatten
Post Number: 331
Registered: 4-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, July 07, 2002 - 9:43 pm: | |
Its just my opinion, but if you are inquiring on pros and cons about having 335's on the back of your 360, they might not be for you, nor within your track ability.
William wants some rather large wheels on his race-prepped 512TR, and HRE and Kinesis are willing to build them for him. When inquiring about fitting them on the 512TR with widebody and all, Alain at Kinesis and John at HRE both had the same "deer eyes" reaction - it was too funny to put into words. But needless to say, they will be building wheels soon, and I stand behind it - he's got plenty of track experience and knows what he needs.
Push the max that you can. I'd suggestion getting lightweight Challenge wheels. Going super-wide in the rear will induce a lot of understeer, which from a stock 360's standpoint of view - its very well balanced and dialing in that extra understeer will need to be taken out by reducing it with shocks, bars, tire pressures and alignment settings. |
Tim N (Timn88)
Intermediate Member
Username: Timn88
Post Number: 1185
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, July 07, 2002 - 9:24 pm: | |
335's are probably the biggest you would be able to go. |
Ernesto (T88power)
Member
Username: T88power
Post Number: 468
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, July 07, 2002 - 8:40 pm: | |
I think the biggest you can get away with without looking like a pimped out 360 is 11" rear wheel with 285 or 295 tire. But this is all opinion, of course. Everybody has different tastes...
Ernesto |
Nunja Bitness (Jaxfl)
Junior Member
Username: Jaxfl
Post Number: 96
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, July 07, 2002 - 7:55 pm: | |
What is the widest size wheel that would fit without sticking out of the wheel well? I wouldn't want it to be so wide that it would look goofy. |
Steven J. Solomon (Solly)
Member
Username: Solly
Post Number: 318
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, July 07, 2002 - 7:45 pm: | |
335's are about the biggest you can go without having it look stupid. The stock 275's are plenty wide enough, though, with the stability manmagement system give plenty of grip on the track. |
Ernesto (T88power)
Member
Username: T88power
Post Number: 466
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, July 07, 2002 - 6:05 pm: | |
Why would you want such wide tires on a 360? Its not like it needs it... I think it would OK as long as the wheel/tire does not stick out of the sides, that looks horrible. Unless you got a twin turbo kit from koenig, then you would need to do it... |
Nunja Bitness (Jaxfl)
Junior Member
Username: Jaxfl
Post Number: 95
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, July 07, 2002 - 4:54 pm: | |
I saw a recent post about putting such wide tires on the rear of a 360. What kinds of pros and cons would you experience by doing that? I love the huge rubber on Diablos and Vipers and would like that look on a 360 or even a 550 if I go that route. I'd like to get the lightest possible 18's if I chose to go super wide in back. What would the best bet be for that? Volk Racing wheels are super light but I'm fairly sure they don't come much wider than 10.5". Also, is there any drawback to keeping the stock width up front? I'd like to avoid over-taxing the steering bits with huge front contact patches. Any ideas on the lightest available makes and models for this wide of a wheel would be highly appreciated. |