| Author | Message | ||
| z. b. (Cheeseman)
New member Username: Cheeseman Post Number: 18 Registered: 4-2002 |
this engine was in fact an experimental f1 engine. the experiment being how compactly a 12 cylinder engine could be built. the block holds two crankshafts one above the other. the black "blower" on top is the upper crank case. the lower crank is at the bottom with both cranks joined by the gear set in between. what looks like the "intake" runners going down to the heads are really the cylinders for the top bank. the four banks are arranged in a square. last time i was at the factory i spent about half an hour examining this piece because it was so different. i dont remember what year it was made also couldn't figure out what the combustion chambers looked like. anyway i ran out of time to take it apart. | ||
| Mitchel DeFrancis (4re308)
Member Username: 4re308 Post Number: 582 Registered: 6-2001 |
The engine is from a 126CK, its a 6 with a single Comptrex supercharger on the top. There was a light thread about this car sometime ago. Note the 3 spark plug holes on each side. Its not a V12 or a Boxer 12. | ||
| James Selevan (Jselevan)
New member Username: Jselevan Post Number: 28 Registered: 6-2002 |
Does not look too much different from my 1986 TR engine which I just put back in the chassis. The gear driven supper charger grabs one's attention, however. It is 4 cam, 12 cylinder, and while someone suggested it my have a "narrow V", it looks flat to me. The timing belts and tensioners are identical to the TR. The valve covers are different, allowing for "mating" sparkplug insertion for adjacent cylinders. My thoughts. Jim Selevan | ||
| Horsefly (Arlie)
New member Username: Arlie Post Number: 49 Registered: 5-2002 |
Looks about like $30,000 or more down the drain if one of those timing belts ever let go! | ||
| Bill Steele (Glassman)
New member Username: Glassman Post Number: 49 Registered: 4-2002 |
I beleive this is a six cylinder flat head or Boxer engine with some sort of explosive device mounted on top of it. It could be dangerous. | ||
| Willis Huang (Willis360)
Member Username: Willis360 Post Number: 776 Registered: 8-2001 |
Not having much luck searching for more info. In the picture, there's a plaque in front of the engine. Perhaps an Italian FerrariChatter living nearby could go there and tell us what it says. If going by the model designation, I'm guessing that the "F135" means Formula One 3.5 Liters. | ||
| Michael Russell (Michael_russell)
New member Username: Michael_russell Post Number: 11 Registered: 6-2002 |
Thanks Dave, any idea what year it was built? Michael | ||
| Dave (Maranelloman)
Junior Member Username: Maranelloman Post Number: 238 Registered: 1-2002 |
Willis is correct: This is an experimental twin-V6. Kind of like what VW is doing these days with its narrow angle six, making a W12 out of 2 of them. But in this case, it's really 2 horizontally opposed V6's. There is a picture of it in the current Rosso magazine--the engine is on display at the factory museum in Maranello. | ||
| Michael Russell (Michael_russell)
New member Username: Michael_russell Post Number: 10 Registered: 6-2002 |
Thank You much! I would appreciate any additional info you find. Thanks again Michael | ||
| Willis Huang (Willis360)
Member Username: Willis360 Post Number: 775 Registered: 8-2001 |
It's an experimental F1 engine. I was just relaying what was printed in the magazine. The article was about Galleria Ferrari, the museum in Maranello. I'll check the owner's site later to see if there's anything else on that engine. | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 982 Registered: 9-2001 |
thanks frank- I thought I remembered it, we did pretty good with our guesses. | ||
| Michael Russell (Michael_russell)
New member Username: Michael_russell Post Number: 9 Registered: 6-2002 |
Willis - can you tell me any more about it? What was it used in? What year? Thanks!! Michael | ||
| Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member Username: Parkerfe Post Number: 1036 Registered: 9-2001 |
Michael, it looks like a 12 to me. It has 6 intakes per side. What looks like only three spark plug holes appear to be oblong shaped which could hold two spark plugs entering the cylinders at an angle. And Tom, yes Ferrari used a 6 cylinder engine in the F1 turbo era, but is was a V configeration and not a flat. | ||
| Steve Magnusson (91tr)
Member Username: 91tr Post Number: 829 Registered: 1-2001 |
Looks like an experimental, supercharged, 180 deg V-6 to me (based on the gear drive arrangement up front). My guess would be the open ports are for the exhaust out the top so the engine CG could be placed as low as possible in the chassis (if it's a pressurized intake scheme, the intake tract routing is less-critical) -- but I'm no expert. Willis -- Was the displacement given? 412 HP out of a blown flat-12 doesn't sound very impressive to me. | ||
| Willis Huang (Willis360)
Member Username: Willis360 Post Number: 774 Registered: 8-2001 |
It's the F135 DV6. A flat 12 made from two V6. 412HP. Found it on the most recent issue of Rosso Ferrari.  | ||
| bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 495 Registered: 4-2002 |
looks like my twin volvo inboards on my old 26 ft searay boat.. | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 981 Registered: 9-2001 |
did f-1 run a turbo 6 cylinder once??? | ||
| Michael Russell (Michael_russell)
New member Username: Michael_russell Post Number: 8 Registered: 6-2002 |
Only three spark plugs per side. And what is sitting on top?! C'mon you guys are supposed to be the experts! Michael | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 979 Registered: 9-2001 |
looks to small for a 12, no | ||
| Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member Username: Parkerfe Post Number: 1035 Registered: 9-2001 |
It looks like an old flat 12 F1 engine to me. | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 977 Registered: 9-2001 |
looks like half a flat twelve or a flat six? | ||
| Michael Russell (Michael_russell)
New member Username: Michael_russell Post Number: 7 Registered: 6-2002 |
Please help. We Ferrari neophytes on the Boxster board are having no luck with it. Thanks! Michael Russell  |