| Author | Message | ||
| Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member Username: Parkerfe Post Number: 1041 Registered: 9-2001 |
Martin, that's what my wife says. In fact she is a little leary about leaving in the car alone now. And the reason I didn't notice that the door was left ajar was because I was sitting in the driver's seat when he got out of the car and failed to fully close the door. When I backed up, wham-bam damage done ! By the way, the guy who insalled the glass is a Ferrari paint and body man extraordinare. I have seen multi-million dollar Ferraris shipped there there from all over the world for restoration. If you ever need any paint and/or body work call Beau at Pirkle Auto Paint and Body at 770.939.6982. | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 999 Registered: 9-2001 |
Martin you are too funny | ||
| Martin (Miami348ts)
Intermediate Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 2370 Registered: 5-2001 |
Frank, why are all the bad things happening to you and your wife in that car? Somebody is not looking out for you I think ;-) | ||
| Dave Penhale (Dapper)
Junior Member Username: Dapper Post Number: 114 Registered: 4-2002 |
I think part fo the title of the thread wraps it up "bad luck" i.e. that its an unlucky situation, no blame just one of those things. I guess the window man feels partly responsible, but then I guess Frank does as well. Surely some sort of arrangement where Frank pays materials for repair whilst labour is swallowed by them? | ||
| 89TCab (Jmg)
Junior Member Username: Jmg Post Number: 233 Registered: 9-2001 |
What is the name of the shop? They deserve kudos for stepping forward IMHO. Missed Crazy Horse's jumping forward incident, but that doesn't change what I think is a pretty abrupt reverse to get the door to swing open. I am changing my opinion from Frank paying the deductable to Frank picking up the whole tab. Why? Simply that there was no "fault" involved. Shite happens...I have a second Mondial because of this and I always took that tone with the driver of my totalled 92. (We are still friends...) | ||
| Edward Gault (Irfgt)
Intermediate Member Username: Irfgt Post Number: 1557 Registered: 2-2001 |
If the door was closed when he brought the car into the shop, he should expect it to be closed when he leaves, providing he did not open it himself. | ||
| Peter K. (Bubba)
Junior Member Username: Bubba Post Number: 60 Registered: 5-2002 |
I am kinda like Nika in this sense. I do look over the car before leaving the garage. It's a lot easier to point out any problem while you are there. | ||
| martin J weiner,M.D. (Mw360)
Member Username: Mw360 Post Number: 481 Registered: 5-2001 |
Agree with jmg-it's the driver's responsibility to see that the door is closed-seems elementary my dear Watson. | ||
| Nika (Racernika)
Member Username: Racernika Post Number: 628 Registered: 12-2001 |
I think it's because guys can't "multi-task" as well as women  (grin) | ||
| arthur chambers (Art355)
Member Username: Art355 Post Number: 508 Registered: 6-2001 |
Nika: You should do my pre-flights. Almost nobody is that through with their cars. Great idea through, but the follow through is tough. Art | ||
| Nika (Racernika)
Member Username: Racernika Post Number: 627 Registered: 12-2001 |
How about ACCOUNTABILITY instead of blame. He may have not closed the door properly but I always do a check of my cars before I drive off. I do a walk around to check tires and body then inside I check mirrors, doors etc. It's just a way of being safe. The 308 doors sometime don't shut properly (remember that rubber moulding that fell off the door......it kept my door open enough for the battery to die) I think he deserves a big tip | ||
| acw (Acw)
Junior Member Username: Acw Post Number: 54 Registered: 2-2002 |
> Frank, referrs to all non front engine 12 cyl f-cars a dinos. Just his preference And that is quite funny since the F-40 which I read was introduced by Enzo himself was a mid v8 (: ACW | ||
| arthur chambers (Art355)
Member Username: Art355 Post Number: 507 Registered: 6-2001 |
Frank: Depends on how far open the door was. If it wasn't noticeable, then its his fault. If it is noticeable if you have to look hard to see its open, they maybe you should split the cost. If it is very noticeably open, then its your fault. Only you know the answer to those questions. By the way, how much was the windshield? I think I need one and am pricing them. Did you use the original item, or the replacement windshield without the Ferrari logo? Art | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 992 Registered: 9-2001 |
he said he was in reverse - 1st gear he was talking to the guy who forgot to put in his clutch and stalled it | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 991 Registered: 9-2001 |
Frank, referrs to all non front engine 12 cyl f-cars a dinos. Just his preference | ||
| 89TCab (Jmg)
Junior Member Username: Jmg Post Number: 232 Registered: 9-2001 |
Two questions, none argumentative. 1) How is a Dino 348 Spider different a 348 Spider? Never heard them referred to like this before... 2) First gear? I don't understand... You stated that you "back up and the door swung open so wide and hard" that I could only assume that you were in reverse. In any case, I notice that my belts like to find there way into the path fo the closing doors...been something I try and look for all of the time now although it is much harder to keep up on the passenger side. - JMG | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 986 Registered: 9-2001 |
Frank You must have been excited to get your dino back that you floored it huh. On closing the door I always try to do it lightly and invariably don't get it closed enough. think it is better than slamming it which invariably my wife does  | ||
| Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member Username: Parkerfe Post Number: 1038 Registered: 9-2001 |
Tom, he said that he thought he did close it all the way but obviously didn't. Ben, he did push the door to close it but it didn't latch. I didn't notice it until it was to late. JM, your case is a little different as you could have seen that the shifter was in first gear and should have depressed the clutch before starting engine. Tenney, yeah he is an honorable fellow and I probably will give him a littel tip. | ||
| 89TCab (Jmg)
Junior Member Username: Jmg Post Number: 230 Registered: 9-2001 |
Sounds like you backed up pretty hard...driver is the captain of the ship and all it encompasses. Consider yourself lucky they are willing to step up to the plate, you should offer to reduce their outlay by at least their deductable. | ||
| Tenney (Tenney)
Junior Member Username: Tenney Post Number: 180 Registered: 2-2001 |
This being the age of denial, the body man deserves extra credit for accepting fault. Based on the situation as you describe it, perhaps a decent gesture on your behalf might be to slide him a bit of cash for his effort and good will. | ||
| JM Zarka (Crazy_horse)
New member Username: Crazy_horse Post Number: 22 Registered: 2-2002 |
When I first got my Mondial I took it for an oil change. After paying the bill I got in the car and started the engine . The mechanic had left it in first gear.I got the scare of my life as the car flew forward over curb and almost hit a tree. Luckily I had no damage but I think it was my responsability . He apologized over and over again. What can you do,these things happen,it could have been much worst. Sorry for your troubles they will be behind you really soon.. | ||
| Ben Lobenstein 90 TR (Benjet)
Member Username: Benjet Post Number: 693 Registered: 1-2001 |
To me a door is much like a switch, 2 positions obviously open and closed. Any door that is slightly open is logically not closed. The degree that they can be opened certainly is variable but "he failed to close the passenger door all the way" means that it is not secured enough for the vehicle to be in motion. But that would be over analysing the situation. -Ben | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 984 Registered: 9-2001 |
Frank, Your a lawyer - is this a loaded question? I think he did the right thing and accepted fault. why did he not close the door | ||
| Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member Username: Parkerfe Post Number: 1037 Registered: 9-2001 |
I just had a new windshield installed in my Dino 348 Spider at a local body shop. When I got in the car I noticed that the rear view mirror was lose. As I sit in the car the body man got in the passenger seat and tighten the mirror. When he got out, he failed to close the passenger door all the way. I then started to back up and the passenger door swung open so wide and hard that it damaged the leading edge of the door and the front fender. All you 348 owners out there should beware that the doors can open to wide and if they do will cause body damage. The body man has accepted liability and is repairing damaged door and fender for free. What do you guys think ? Was it his fault or should I have noticed that he didn't shut the door all the way before I backed up ? |